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I think we've all had a time or two when we've been blown away at how utterly useless/incompetent/ill-informed a doctor has been, especially with regard to drugs. This thread is for sharing those experiences, and venting about them.

I have a friend who is in her 4th year of medical school, and the other day we got into an argument because she said that people addicted to benzos who come into the ER should be given a 48hr inpatient detox and sent home. I told her that was ridiculous and they need a much longer-term outpatient taper plan after they are sent home, to avoid risk of seizure and brain damage associated with it. She is stubborn as hell, and by the end of the conversation, we agreed to disagree (but I know I'm right). It alarms me to think that she is taking patients now, and she might one day release a high-risk patient from the hospital with no medicine. It's upsetting.

Share your stories about incompetent doctors and how they have floored you with their stupidity.
 
While I was in rehab, they would spout this information about how opiates cause severe brain damage and physical body damage over time. Obviously they don't know the body produces natural opiates so I guess were all doomed to dain bramage
 
I will make a counter-point to all the posts that have yet to be made.

The best doctor I have ever come across, the one currently treating my pain, is extremely well-informed, progressive (he is on the state MMJ board), groundbreaking, etc... Basically the kind of doctor people wish for all their lives. Yet myths still persist with him.

Benzos and Ambien have no interactions.
It is dangerous to stop opiates abruptly (maybe confusing them with benzos?)
Fentanyl and Hydromorphone do not affect the liver (they don't have to be metabolized, but they affect it)
I could go on and on about this.

Point is, if you can get a good doctor who isn't grossly negligent, you should probably be happy.
 
..... if you can get a good doctor who isn't grossly negligent, you should probably be happy.

... and good luck finding a pain-management practice that hasn't had at least half a dozen lawsuits or DEA-license inspections in the past five years.

There are a lot of other reasons why many doctors have their collective heads stuck in holes, especially concerning scheduled substances.... drugs that many nonetheless still prescribe.

8)
 
I think we've all had a time or two when we've been blown away at how utterly useless/incompetent/ill-informed a doctor has been, especially with regard to drugs. This thread is for sharing those experiences, and venting about them.

I have a friend who is in her 4th year of medical school, and the other day we got into an argument because she said that people addicted to benzos who come into the ER should be given a 48hr inpatient detox and sent home. I told her that was ridiculous and they need a much longer-term outpatient taper plan after they are sent home, to avoid risk of seizure and brain damage associated with it. She is stubborn as hell, and by the end of the conversation, we agreed to disagree (but I know I'm right). It alarms me to think that she is taking patients now, and she might one day release a high-risk patient from the hospital with no medicine. It's upsetting.

Share your stories about incompetent doctors and how they have floored you with their stupidity.

Until your friend graduates from medical school, passes her boards, and is issued a medical license, she is not a doctor. She is simply another layperson with an
opinion. Try telling her so.

Medical students tend to think they know a lot more than they do. That first year out in practice is a real wake-up call.
 
postscript:

who do I trust more when it comes to pain-management, and in having a real working knowledge of addictive/dangerous drugs?

nurses.

no surprise that there are also a lot more nurses who've become addicts, than doctors who have a lot more to lose.
and unfortunate it is that there are far more inept doctors (including ones in-training), than there are nurses. :\
 
If anyone ever asks me if i think i am more intelligent then a doctor i say yes. Why you ask? Because 99.9% of the doctors Ive met are utterly clueless when it comes to most things. A few would have either injured me or possibly killed me if i didn't flat out refuse whatever medication they where going to get me. From trying to give me meperidine/pethidine aka Demerol or tramadol while i was on atleast 2 different meds that would mix rather poorly with either to trying to convince me that ibuprofen helps neuropathic pain to not knowing that serotonic drugs can trigger manic episodes in people who are bipolar like me Ive heard it all.

The absolute worst though was one which is almost too racist to put on here. The GP i had before the one i have now tried to give me trazadone for sleep but i told him no fucking way because of the risk of priapism and also the risk of mania. He then preceded to tell me that priapism was not a bad thing and in fact this was the reason that black guys have bigger penises. As i sat there in my stunned wonder i must have uttered some word that made him explain it. He said sickle cell anemia caused priapism (false of course) and that this was why black guys had bigger penises which is also false depending on who you ask. Anyway i have seldom ever in my life been lost for words but that was one time where i didn't know wtf to say at all.

And to think that guy is still practicing medicine :!
 
4 Years ago, went to the doctors (Was 16 - 17) , had only had sex and was having sex with 1 girl at the time,
Had bad problems when i was having sex, extreme pain during and up to 2 hours after, as well as urge to urinate, and also pain from cycling.

I suggested it was a prostate problem
"noooo its not possible your too young for that"

Sends me for a Cystoscopy.
(Ouch)

But i couldnt get back to this hospital where i had it done because it was 30+ miles away and i couldnt get there, i asked them to tell me the results over the phone but they wouldnt, and i didnt go.

Basically the doctor said sorry, its undiagnosed i cant help you..........

........relationship ends with that girl 2 years after that, probably because i enjoyed and hated sex at the same time.

Returned to hometown, (in England again, was in Northern Ireland) where i suggested i have a prostate problem, which a prostate exam told him straight away that i had an enlarged and tender prostate and paired with the symptoms i have had for 4 years + he diagnosed me with Prostatitis
 
The absolute worst though was one which is almost too racist to put on here. The GP i had before the one i have now tried to give me trazadone for sleep but i told him no fucking way because of the risk of priapism and also the risk of mania. He then preceded to tell me that priapism was not a bad thing and in fact this was the reason that black guys have bigger penises. As i sat there in my stunned wonder i must have uttered some word that made him explain it. He said sickle cell anemia caused priapism (false of course) and that this was why black guys had bigger penises which is also false depending on who you ask. Anyway i have seldom ever in my life been lost for words but that was one time where i didn't know wtf to say at all.

And to think that guy is still practicing medicine :!

While I can appreciate why you chose not to, I probably would have reported this cracker to the Board.
 
4 Years ago, went to the doctors (Was 16 - 17) , had only had sex and was having sex with 1 girl at the time,
Had bad problems when i was having sex, extreme pain during and up to 2 hours after, as well as urge to urinate, and also pain from cycling.

I suggested it was a prostate problem
"noooo its not possible your too young for that"

Sends me for a Cystoscopy.
(Ouch)

But i couldnt get back to this hospital where i had it done because it was 30+ miles away and i couldnt get there, i asked them to tell me the results over the phone but they wouldnt, and i didnt go.

Basically the doctor said sorry, its undiagnosed i cant help you..........

........relationship ends with that girl 2 years after that, probably because i enjoyed and hated sex at the same time.

Returned to hometown, (in England again, was in Northern Ireland) where i suggested i have a prostate problem, which a prostate exam told him straight away that i had an enlarged and tender prostate and paired with the symptoms i have had for 4 years + he diagnosed me with Prostatitis

A veterinarian would have done a better job.
 
While I can appreciate why you chose not to, I probably would have reported this cracker to the Board.

I had no proof that he said that so i figured it would have been useless to do so. Also the cunt was Asian not white. Assholes come in all colors. I damn near decked him on a separate occasion when he forgot his prescription pad twice in a row! Since i was on fentanyl for pain at the time and needed my meds bad you can imagine how pissed i was. I had to leave the office because i was afraid id have killed the useless bastard and few things are worth going to prison over and he certainly was not one of them. Oh well I'm long rid of that useless racist pig but it just astonishes me how these doctors get their licenses. Do they get them out of a corn flakes box or what? 8(
 
I had to sit in the ER for a literal 6ish hours while I had appendicitis, which BTW began over 24 hours previous to me getting to the ER. I could not stop vomiting but I had not successfully drank any fluids without vomiting in 16ish hours so I would just continue to stand up and drink more water, return to my seat, stand up, then spew vomit into the bag they gave me. I was so dehydrated they would continually try to get me to stop consuming fluids but I was so thirsty and when your dehydrated the feeling of absolutely ice cold water hitting your desert mouth is like pure ecstasy so I just kept that routine going. I would also not stop complaining after an hour and a half because every second it felt like someone was punting me directly into my side as hard as they could. At first in it just felt like a strong ache, then moved to feeling like a HS FB player was punting, then a college level, and finally pro. I actually fell out of my desk chair at home when the HS punting sensation started, it was ridiculous. Also no one was even home so I just started dialing numbers hoping someone would pick up but no one did. Thankfully though someone returned home around 20 minutes later and promptly took me to the ER. I remember turning to a person and telling them in a semi-delirious rage that(it must have been atleast four hours in the ER by this point)if I wasn't somewhere retrieving actual help in some amount of time that I would stand up, bumrush the male nuerse and begin fighting him. The person looked at me perplexed and asked what the fuck that would do to which I promptly answered, "They'll think i'm batshit, strap me down and sedate the fuck out me of me if I do it....."(I was told this later by the person who brought me, though I kind of remember telling the person I was ready to fight). At around seven hours I actually got up and left the ER like I had been threatening to for hours, but after I got outside, I couldn't make it to far with the pain and had no car keys so I had to return. I probably should have just gotten up and used the phone to dial 911 and gotten an ambulance to come pick me up.... After I came back in though they finally brought me back like 5-15 minutes later and shot me up with 3ish mgs of H-morphone which promptly made me more quiet and cooperative. A couple hours later I was awakened for surgery and the Anesthesiologist was all pissed off that I had been drinking fluids and shit but I could have cared less, I probably would have said "Fuck you" or something but i'm pretty sure they hit me up with Midazolam pretty quickly after that because I can only remember suddenly feeling oddly calm and then blackness. Also I of course am super strange when it comes to pain relief from Opi's, always takes mer far to much to recieve adequate relief from the stupid Hydro series so everytime they choose to give me this my hospital stay is usually a battle with the nurses. Thankfully though my reg. nurse was pretty nice but I got a giant DB at night as well as my doc who pretty much told me "Fuck you, your just trying to get high" in less than so many words. They atleast gave me enough to take the edge off, oh and when leaving they refused to prescribe me more than 10 mgs of Oxy every few hours. Kinda funny though because they dosed me with the morphone(lol I planned it so it would happen like that...)only like two hours previous to the first tester of Oxy and I got up, walked around, and spoke as articulately as possible to show them I was literally not feeling it. Really though the only reason I was mad was, a month previous my friend had a literal cut on his index finer, like a papercut style, really small but unlike most PC's pretty deep. Ended up infected and he ended up getting it cleaned out in the hospital. He left with double the amount of Oxy I had. Sometimes I think theres no class of existence that IU hate more than a doctor. Just a prettier nurse with two thousand percent more arrogance and usually a mucchhhhh narrower knowledge of medicine. I love when how things change oh quickly when you stop fucking around and start mentioning agonism to your doc...if he even knows what it is. Then it turns into "Ohh hooo hooooo! Looks like we got a pharma student here huh?", "Yeah, sure thing Doc! Whatever will get you to not treat me like a piece of garbage!". Same things goes for cops and donuts. They'll think your in crim ed field straight off. ;) Bad joke, I know!
 
I had no proof that he said that so i figured it would have been useless to do so. Also the cunt was Asian not white. Assholes come in all colors. I damn near decked him on a separate occasion when he forgot his prescription pad twice in a row! Since i was on fentanyl for pain at the time and needed my meds bad you can imagine how pissed i was. I had to leave the office because i was afraid id have killed the useless bastard and few things are worth going to prison over and he certainly was not one of them. Oh well I'm long rid of that useless racist pig but it just astonishes me how these doctors get their licenses. Do they get them out of a corn flakes box or what? 8(


Patients are conditioned by poor physicians to expect poor service, little to no communication, and fear of abandonment by their doctors.
 
I've had positive an negative experiences. I appreciate when a doctor can take the time to listen and evaluate based on your information rather than a preconceived idea that they have. Or maybe I'm nuts enough that I really can be diagnosed within 20 seconds with a disorder. Who knows. I can understand though that they are often overworked and it's difficult or impossible to completely keep up with information on every medication so that they end up having to make judgments based on the information that is provided to them.
 
I hate doctors who judge people who are in pain. Doctors look at them and automatically judges them addicts. It can't be that they have intense pain and just want relief from it. Nope. Everybody is an addict if they request opiates. It can not be because it relieves pain. Never. Nurses are just as bad. They tell the doctors that the patient is drug seeking. Then the doctor won't give it if he is dumb. But there are some doctors who see through the nurses judgmental undertones and relieves the patients pain. Idk. That just really makes me mad to see that stuff.
 
Sometimes I feel I could be doing my psychologist's job. For the first couple months he gave me really good insights into my anxiety and depression. But now, the 50 minute appointment is 95% me talking and making my own conclusions, and the Dr. just sitting back agreeing with what I have to say. I know that I couldn't have made all the progress I've achieved without him, but I think this guy is slacking off now that I've gotten better. It's gotten to the point where I can pretty much predict what he's going to say.

The worst psychiatrist I've had literally asked me the same 5 or 6 questions every appointment, that was it. He only prescribed me one thing, "Lamictal," and refused to script me anything else. One time, I saw that his cabinet was filled with hundreds of Lamictal samples. And on multiple occasions I saw other patients walking out with these same samples that I got. He was basically more of a Rx rep than a Dr.

That said, I don't feel that I can legitimately call any Dr. useless, I don't have a medical degree. This was more of rant.
 
I think we've all had a time or two when we've been blown away at how utterly useless/incompetent/ill-informed a doctor has been, especially with regard to drugs. This thread is for sharing those experiences, and venting about them.

I have a friend who is in her 4th year of medical school, and the other day we got into an argument because she said that people addicted to benzos who come into the ER should be given a 48hr inpatient detox and sent home. I told her that was ridiculous and they need a much longer-term outpatient taper plan after they are sent home, to avoid risk of seizure and brain damage associated with it. She is stubborn as hell, and by the end of the conversation, we agreed to disagree (but I know I'm right). It alarms me to think that she is taking patients now, and she might one day release a high-risk patient from the hospital with no medicine. It's upsetting.

Share your stories about incompetent doctors and how they have floored you with their stupidity.
Are you Fucking Serious?!?!!! That is Beyond STUPIDITY X10. This is why I have been thinking about trying to go to school for this.

Which idiot doctor experience do you want?

I once set an appointment up for a psychiatrist and he seriously creeped me Out upon eye contact. I should start by saying he was about 50 minutes late and he may have been a good doctor. Basically the first thing I noticed as I am gay is damn this guy Has to be gay. So he starts asking me general questions any psychiatrist would---until he asked about My sexuality. After he was told by me of my gayness he asked a serious of questions which weren't to odd like "are you seeing anybody right now, looking" ect. Then out of Nowhere he asked some really weird questions the first one being do you ever meet guys online(sure but why would you ask that?) , if I go to clubs. Now when he mentioned clubs I said um No I do not go to the gay clubs here as most in all honesty are gross and filled with tweakers and seedy guys, and thats kinda how I answered him. So after I say no to both questions he asks how I meet guys. It doesn't stop here though. He asked me a serious of questions equally as weird and kept asking if I wanted Adderall and I kept telling him no I do Not respond well to that medication and just take Dexedrine. He asked me about two more times while Totally eyeballing me and I ended it there. I shook his hand and said thanks anyway and he told me to come back if I needed help. I thought what a weirdo. I go to my GP a few days later to find he Flagged my name because I didnt like the medication he prescribed.


I saw a general doctor once for about three weeks. He was very open minded or so I thought. He prescribed me all the medication I Needed. Then I went to him after someone decided to give me crabs and not tell me. He gave me some lotion pesticide shit. Whatever so a week later I go in and had to complain about those Nast pink corepharma Adderalls and he seriously said he had more important things to do then deal with handling my medication ,no joke, and all said before I could explain why I needed a different brand and script. He also claimed to have prescribed me numerous crab medication which was just laighable. He broke the law by not even giving me a months worth of Medication after kicking me out of his facility so I decided to call him a really Bad doctor.


I have way to many shitty doctor stories.

My current doctor wants to try to detox me off Benzodiazepines without a Taper because shes clearly doesn't want to deal with me anymore. Its quite annoying. I do not know why doctors think Xanax is a terrible drug everyone gets high from. I think a majority of doctors Need to go back to med school because they have no Fucking idea what they are talking about. Saying benzos are a temporary medication is like telling a pain patient the same bullshit story. It really bothers me at how much ignorance lies within our health care systems in the US. I have never understood Why doctors have to be so difficult about Serious health matters. My current doctor told me I was dependent on Xanax and tried to compare it to an addiction saying things will only get worse. I have seen the doctor for a year now steady and the doc was asking if I am on Ativan while My charts right infront of them. I just wish things were easier for non abusers. Its so out of hand. Nothing bothers me more. ughhh
 
I had a pill mill psychiatric doctor which I didn't catch onto until he took 2 5mg Valium from meout of anger. He did not even trash the shit. He was bipolar as Fuck
 
He is actually right about opiate withdrawal being dangerous in certain circumstances. If a patient has a neurological disorder ir can infact kill you as I learned only 2 days ago, my Dr nearly killed me by prescribed 6mg of bupe per day when I have already been suffering from pain induced seizures. Also said dr told my mother it was sublingual fentanyl (lolwhut?????) I am just so glad alarm bells rang and I researched it first as the dr did not tell me whether to keep taking my morphine or anything.

I had the intelligence and self preservation to research it first and wait 9 hours to get the correct advice or I would either be dead or severely brain damaged right now.


I will make a counter-point to all the posts that have yet to be made.

The best doctor I have ever come across, the one currently treating my pain, is extremely well-informed, progressive (he is on the state MMJ board), groundbreaking, etc... Basically the kind of doctor people wish for all their lives. Yet myths still persist with him.

Benzos and Ambien have no interactions.
It is dangerous to stop opiates abruptly (maybe confusing them with benzos?)
Fentanyl and Hydromorphone do not affect the liver (they don't have to be metabolized, but they affect it)
I could go on and on about this.

Point is, if you can get a good doctor who isn't grossly negligent, you should probably be happy.
 
in every profession there are those who strive to help and those who could give FUCK ALL...I have equal bad/good Dr experiences...I try and focus on the GOOD experiences and encourage those who have bad experiences to report them to proper authorities and channels and I recommend that each individual seek out well respected physicians-those who have patients who have high success rates and good recommendations. The internet is a great tool for checking into Dr.s-sometimes you just have to go through trial and error. I mean I can same the same about Lawyers-Just bc someone practices something that you need help in,doesn't mean you will strike gold every time.
I won't bother telling my stories of Dr atrocities,I will only say that I hope these bad experiences do not keep those of you who are posting AND reading form seeking GOOD-SUCCESSFUL-KNOWLEDGEABLE-CARING medical care. There are great Dr.s out there and I do agree-NURSES...well they are a special breed of caregivers whom I owe my life to just as much-if not more- as the Cardio Surgeon who repaired my aorta.
Don't give up-don't let it go. File a complaint and seek info on Physicians who are RIGHT FOR YOU!!!

Much peace and love..............skillz <3
 
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