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All I have to say about women.

Re this thread generally - Its not hard to give a few ques that you are flirting. From there just have fun with the interaction, over complicate things with all sorts of stupid theories about what you should be doing and you will make yourself look like a total loser.
 
alasdairm said:
q.e.d. :\

why not just say what you're thinking?

alasdair
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You either read too much in between the lines, or the right amount. Either way is cool.


BTW was it you who resurrected this thread? I think that might be why I'm picking on you. How childish of you. ;)
 
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I have a project on the go at the minute and might need a crane and wrecking ball to break this one down! The queen of ice but makes me more interested!!! :D
 
Alas, I thought you hated this thread anyway...Isn't its very existence an example of how mockable and illogical most people become when they choose to enter the dating scene? Isn't it a sad reflection on our society as to how superficial we're all prone to act? Isn't it an insult to women that guys think they can even get away with this type of thing?

I don't like PMs for the most part, and original question I posed was for anyone to answer. You just happened to read in between the lines and think that I was making a statement with a rhetorical question, when in fact it was all about the question. I don't like conversations where one person calls a person names, and then that person goes "So's ur face!" Which is why I didn't immediately deny making any assumptions with the original pseudo-Confucian/Obi-Wanian question I posed.

The second "aannd?" was pure trolling though, I'll fess up to that.
 
We could label it as acting "adult" or whatever, but really it's about some shred of respect and honesty. Hell, there's plenty of children out there that don't act like total "game-playing" creeps all the time.
It's also about dispelling retarded dating myths like the "friendszone." You know, if you don't try to feel her tits and talk about dat ass the first time you meet her, she's permenantly going to "file you away" under her "list of gay friends I go to for advice about men."

Really, if you try to build a relationship on having a "cocky" attitude towards women, and playing stupid little mind games all the time, it's not going to go far, and unless you really enjoy drama, you will be miserable. Relationships need to be built on real shit. If you can't be real, which I don't think is asking a lot, you shouldn't date anybody.

Sure, confidence is great, but real humans understand that no matter how great you are, confidence is something that comes and goes in life. So, you got "game"? That's all it is then - just a fucking game.

Sure, I act like a total fool sometimes, but damn, I at least have some integrity in my relationships.
 
Here is a recent article I did on women. This is all I have to say about them.

The "Bitch" Evolved: Why Girls Are So Cruel to Each Other


About a month ago I was invited to give a brief talk to my nephew Gianni’s first grade class—nothing too deep, mind you, rather simply about what it’s like living in a foreign place such as Belfast. The highlight of my presentation was the uproarious laughter that erupted when I mentioned that people on this side of the Atlantic refer to diapers as “nappies” and cookies as “biscuits.” But one must play to the audience.

Now, my sister resides in a small town in central Ohio, so perhaps there’s something about the mid-West which breeds especially endearing and affectionate six-year-olds, but I should be forgiven for momentarily siding with Rousseau that afternoon on his overly simplistic view that society corrupts and turns such naïve, innocent cherubs into monstrous adults. To give an example, one little girl waved at me in so kind a manner that it seemed, in that instant, I was in the presence of a better species of humankind, one that naturally regards other people as benevolent curiosities and the contrivances of social etiquette haven’t tarnished and brutally tamed genuine emotions.

What punctured this rose-tinted illusion of mine was the knowledge that these diminutive figures giggling and sitting Indian-style on the carpet before me might also be viewed as incubating adolescents. Perhaps it’s just me, but I’d swear the world knows not an eviler soul than an angry, angst-ridden, hormonally intoxicated teen. And if this little pigtailed girl is anything like the rest of her gender, in just a few years’ time she will unfortunately morph into an eye-rolling, gossiping, ostracizing, sarcastic, dismissive, cliquish ninth-grader, embroiled in the classic cafeteria style bitchery of adolescent female social politics.

If that strikes you as misogynistic, rest assured it’s merely an empirical statement. (Rest assured, also, that I’m afraid I have much in common with this tactical style, and I have great respect for more refined Machiavellians, so I’m not casting stones here.) In fact, over the past few decades, scholars from a variety of disciplines—including developmental psychology, evolutionary biology and cultural anthropology—have noted a striking difference in the standard patterns of aggression between reproductive-aged males and females. While teenage boys and young male adults are more prone to engage in direct aggression, which includes physical acts of violence such as hitting, punching and kicking, females, in comparison, exhibit pronounced social aggression, which includes such obnoxious things as mentioned in the various acts of bitchery listed above.
 
It's actually true I think. I've never known any girls over the age of 18 to actually have any real friends of the same sex with the exception of sorority girls who weren't really friends, but in fact, lesbian lovers!

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Hey, do you have any nice-looking friends with great personalities you could introduce me to?
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@#$%^&*()!!!!!!
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Oh yeah, you don't have any friends!
 
Not true. Many of my female friends have other female friends. Actual, genuine friends. But they're all over 26; most are over 30.
 
MyFinalRest said:
It's actually true I think. I've never known any girls over the age of 18 to actually have any real friends of the same sex with the exception of sorority girls who weren't really friends, but in fact, lesbian lovers!
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/facepalm-headshake Dude....you're an idiot...you're even more of an idiot than that time you said "no u r" and meant it.

Not to mention the fact that that chick probably got pissed at you for wearing an anime mask and trying to get her to set you up with a date.
 
xburtonchic said:
Eh, I agree that ignoring her a bit works... at first. But once you know the girl is interested, it's time to stop. Otherwise she's just going to assume you're not interested, and the one of three things are going to happen: one, she's either going to back off, which is going to then leave YOU unsure, wondering if she's actually still interested, and possibly regretting that you ignored her in the first place. Two, she's going to realize that what you're doing is playing a game, and either play games back (if she's that type), or decide that you're not worth her time and move on to a guy that will treat her the way she wants to be treated... i.e. one who's not going to be rude or ignore her. Trust me, it hurts our feelings when a guy we like ignores us. And option number three... if she's the insecure type, she's going to become SUPER clingy. And probably start pursuing you more than you want her to. And not give up until you tell her to leave you the fuck alone... which she probably won't, even then.

In another scenario, if you're switching back and forth between ignoring her and acting as though you're interesting, that's going to do nothing but frustrate the girl. I can almost guarantee she will start freaking out on you for dumb things. At least, that's what I (and most of the girls I know) do when a guy confuses us and won't make it clear whether he likes us or not. Playing it hot and cold is not a good way to go with women, trust me... it's frustrating and annoying and it just pisses us off. :(

Really, the best way to go about it is to play it cool AT FIRST. Just long enough to get her interested, and get you out of the "friend zone" as you say. It doesn't take long for a girl to decide whether she's interested. Maybe two or three days, tops. Personally, for me, it's usually the first time I hang out with a guy that I decide whether he has potential or whether he's just going to be in the friend zone. So I'd say after a couple days, hell maybe even a few hours depending on the girl... stop with the whole "I'm not interested in you" game. Definitely don't keep it going for longer than a week, because a girl will already know whether she's interested by then, and it's probably just going to backfire on you. I'm not saying it ALWAYS will, but a lot of the time... yeah. Although I have to say, I can think of two or three guy friends who were strictly "friend zone" for me, and then realized like a year later that I actually liked them as more than just a friend.

Anyways, you should give seminars on the proper way to finger a girl. You pretty much hit the nail on the head with that one. :D
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A+ advice from a A+ moderator. %)

I put in bold the best part of your post.
 
max_ said:
I don't know if you know me or you just made that up. I do usually make paper airplanes*, now that I think about it I do it a lot when I'm down town with a girl and I'm handed a brochure of some sort. LMAO

@alasdair: Think of this, you're saying that mind games are not the way to go. Do you really think that women don't do that to us men? I mean flirting is sort of a mind game, you do have to play a few cards and joke around. Women walk around these days showing 90% of their skin, they don't look at you, they play hard to get. Sometimes they would look at you and pretend they weren't. They say yes when they mean no and a very long etcetera. This is not playing mind games (or it rather is), this is the very definition of getting someone to like you. Of course, each person has it's own ways, but that's basically how it's done, or rather how woman do it and we men should learn from them.
Too bad for our gender, for the first time in history women have taken the lead on the battle of the sexes. And if any man here is so naive that they believe that being totally open with a girl and just going "Here's a flower, will you go out with me?" will work out, think it over. She might say yes, she might even make you feel good at first and show you a good time, but as things start moving forward you will realize that your place in that relationship is the one of the lik-er and she's the like-e. And I truly am sorry for having to say this 'cause I'm a huge fan of romeo and juliet but I swear to god, they will use that against you. There is a battle of the sexes, there is a power struggle (it sounds so bad when you put it that way, but it is what it is).
So, if you really like a girl and want her to be with you in some sort of equal/happy-ish relationship, be bitches guys. Don't you dare looking at them. Don't you ever tell someone who is not your girlfriend that you like them. And if anybody knows a better way to do it, feel free to share it with the rest of us!

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*This i would also call mindgames, playing it cool, a little childish even, like you don't care if she thinks your a manchild or whatever. (I'm 20 though)
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@alasdair
alasdair is the man in this thread, hey man I think I was pretty damn wrong about how you should approach girls. That's probably why I never had a truly meaningful relationship.. If you play games you will only find people who likes to play them too. The best way to get a girl to respect you is to be straight forward, and not a cocky asshole. If you like 'em just tell them you do and if they want to play with you just step back and they will either stop playing with you or they can get lost and you'll be better off alone, so when the right girl comes along you'll be available to be just fine with her instead of playing highschool yard games. That's it, I was wrong, alasdair's got it right.
 
I know this is a resurrected thread because I think I already replied, but let me say that being coy with a girl is not a bad thing, especially for the first few months.
As someone who has bedded a couple hundred women, I can say that the advice in the first post is pretty spot-on, especially when you are just trying to get your dick wet. (Granted, it is easier to just pour a beer on it)

Anyone who wants a meaningful relationship, though, should avoid this shit. Except when you are in a loveless marriage of 20 years, in which case it will work again.
 
MyFinalRest said:
alasdair is totally the man on this thread. I'm gonna back this dude up!
When alasdair says it's childish, he's right about that. That's the perfect way to describe these "mind games." The OP is giving advice for 17 year old suburban idiots who will never come close to anything that resembles a true romance. If that's what you want, then by all means, be a fucking retard!
LOL at the "friendszone"! God, I've heard that so often in pop culture garbage. "itz all about how youz talkz to her yo" like if you make one slip you are doomed to forever be associated in some part of her brain that only recognizes friendship. Another great "scientific" analysis! As long as you aren't gay, unattractive to her, not a dating danger of any sort, and considering that she is not madly in love with someone else, you won't likely stay in this "friendszone," even if you try!

It's not about some sort of "pimp magic" or any other bullshit for real adults. Grow the fuck up and learn what a real relationship is about.
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I don't think I ever said this was what you should do if you want a girlfriend. Also, so much speculation. You tell me I'll never have a meaningful relationship? I'm in one.

And actually, when you're meeting a girl for the first time, it is TOTALLY about how you talk to her. You actually CAN slip up once and then be completely tossed aside by her. You have to show her that you are attractive to her. It helps when you act confident, call her on her bullshit, tease her a little bit, make her laugh, and generally just act like a sexual individual. Kind of like James Bond. Would you see James Bond asking girls for their numbers with a flower in his hand? Not a chance.

Africanus said:
You can do what the op says, be an alpha jock or pretend to be one if you are not, and this will get you pussy for sure.
So what if blind guys tips don't cover all women, it doesn't matter because it covers enough for you to get laid more often.

Nobody is their real selves, in any interaction, with anyone, including their own selves, because "who we really are" is entirely subjective.
(this doesn't mean there is no such thing as putting on an act, it's just more complicated than either "being yourself" or "putting on an act playing games", does anyone here tell a chick as soon as they meet them that they are unemployed drug addicts who masturbate all day to furry porn?)
Full disclosure can come later, in small doses, as yous start to like each other, or if it's just a one nighter then it doesn't matter at all, because one nighters aren't about anything other than two body's enjoying each other.

There are other ways obviously.

I prefer not to pretend to be an alpha, trying to compete with all the other clowns and halfwits who are or pretend to be alphas, but nor does my personality fall into what's known as a beta male.

I am calm, I choose what I want and take it, do it, I keep my wits about me around girls, opiates don't fuck your mental functioning like grog does. I don't seem to do stuff just to impress, even while doing stuff that may be impressive or even risky. I function without a group of friends around me to give me courage. I'm not afraid to just say I want someone, and exactly what I want them to do.
I reckon I fit the omega profile most, though everyone has overlapping characteristics.
Example one important characteristic all men need regardless, is confidence in yourself and your own abilities.
All of the above is not just a way to get chicks, it is the way I live my life.

Even so, while I get sex when I want it, you probably would get more by ignoring what I said, and just pretending to be an alpha like everyone else.
It depends on where your picking up from too of course.
Most girls out clubbing probably just want a good time, they don't want someone deep or intelligent or sensible, they just want a piece of hot skin to ride.
Eh anyway that's just my thoughts, I'm no expert but.
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I forgot why I quoted this.

CoffeeDrinker said:
Alas, I thought you hated this thread anyway...Isn't its very existence an example of how mockable and illogical most people become when they choose to enter the dating scene? Isn't it a sad reflection on our society as to how superficial we're all prone to act? Isn't it an insult to women that guys think they can even get away with this type of thing?

I don't like PMs for the most part, and original question I posed was for anyone to answer. You just happened to read in between the lines and think that I was making a statement with a rhetorical question, when in fact it was all about the question. I don't like conversations where one person calls a person names, and then that person goes "So's ur face!" Which is why I didn't immediately deny making any assumptions with the original pseudo-Confucian/Obi-Wanian question I posed.

The second "aannd?" was pure trolling though, I'll fess up to that.
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Well what does it have to say that women are doing this type of stuff to us all the time?

muvolution said:
I know this is a resurrected thread because I think I already replied, but let me say that being coy with a girl is not a bad thing, especially for the first few months.
As someone who has bedded a couple hundred women, I can say that the advice in the first post is pretty spot-on, especially when you are just trying to get your dick wet. (Granted, it is easier to just pour a beer on it)

Anyone who wants a meaningful relationship, though, should avoid this shit. Except when you are in a loveless marriage of 20 years, in which case it will work again.
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Hey look at that. *eye roll*
 
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