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Misc GBL and its use for partying

Pulling = Flirting. Basically how confident you are with interacting with a member of the opposite sex you want to fuck.

Embaressing as if you do too much you will fall asleep. You will be knocked out unconscious in a club, or during sex. If you do too much no amount of drawing, slapping or farting in your face will wake you up.

And yea, if you combine it with things like alcohol the risk of overdose is very real. The secret is not to redose too quickly, don't mix it with other drugs, and only redose in small amounts.
 
dexter-hmm i have yet to experience whats so 'wrong' or 'dirty' about BDO..care to explain?i have read many accounts but havent experienced anything myself that makes me think its dirty..i have alot of ghb experience and Bdo is almost identical to ghb except that bdo has a slightly more alcohol type feeling..besides that though they are the same imo..

yes, ghb or bdo is fucking amazing when it comes to giving you ability to flirt with opposite sex..you have complete control of mental faculties, crazy level of confidence and sex drive that is beyond any other drug..plus, no anxiety which makes it the perfect drug for hooking up..

i have found its almost impossible to go back to alcohol for party reasons once you have perfected ghb/bdo dosing..
 
Even when not on a binge, that 1,4 makes my heart beat pretty weird when comming down (although that could be just me, however it's never happened on anything else). It has only happened with 1,4. I definitely like the experience itself more than GBL though.

Just thinking about BDO nowadays gives me a gag reflex too.

It's really a shame most doctors don't even know what "Xylem" is over here in the states.
 
DexterMeth said:
It's really a shame most doctors don't even know what "Xylem" is over here in the states.
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*xyrem.

And you will find this in most countries, even the UK. Some doctors don't even know about GHB, yet alone GBL.

And yea, very pronounced heart rate and muscle tension are classic signs of it wearing off. Benzos cure this, but probably not a good habit to get into.
 
Submilligram scale?

Anyway, converting GBL to GHB is the easiest kind of chemistry, an equimolar reaction, and pure NaOH is easy to find and cheap.

I've had a ton of BDO, GBL, and GHB, and have compared them in equal doses in reasonably objective trials. BDO and GBL offer identical effects. GHB is cleaner, less intoxicating, less euphoric, but was nonetheless my preference. Dopamine rebound is hell, so I don't use any of them anymore.
 
Ayrios said:
Dopamine rebound is hell, so I don't use any of them anymore.
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^ Exactly. Waking up next to a super fit girl in a state where you are feeling so shit you are sweating and twitching next to her in an anxious and restless state is not a good way to be! Happened too many times to me now ... again, benzos/booze cure this, but it's really not a good idea to start using more downers to combat the side effects of other downers. It's a slippery slope. Just use one or two doses of GBL/GHB a night when you do and the rebound (dopamine or not) is bearable.
 
ive had the rebound rapid heartrate and tiredness/dysphoria but thats about it..i have noticed strange that i dont get the increased heartrate all the time though..i wonder why?the dysphoria doesnt happen every time either..

there simply isnt anything out there that is a better social lubricant for me than ghb/bdo..alcohol doesnt come close..the messed up thing is with ghb is walk and motor skills are improved on ghb as long as the dose is correct.with alcohol im sloppy which i hate..

i wonder how often xyrem is scribed for insomnia in the states?Ghb is also scribed for alcohol withdrawal in europe i believe under the name 'alcover'.not sure how often though..

dexter-Bdo is much better than Ghb when it comes to taste man..bdo doesnt taste that bad at all, just chemical where Ghb is beyond nasty..anothing plus about bdo is i have NEVER gotten dizzy and thrown up after taking large doses of BDO...with Bdo if i take too much i simply get very tired, nod out and sleep...with ghb i would get very dizzy and just start puking all over the place..i wonder why Bdo doesnt cause vomiting?another plus is you know exactly what you get dosage wise with bdo..
 
distyboi-you seem like you are talking about addiction and withdrawals as opposed to the rebound correct?
 
Limitbreaker said:
Also, is GHB good for comedowns off stimulants and things like that? Or perhaps ending trips?
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Yes. Well it's not going to end your trip, but it will make it more awesome (it synergizes more than it dulls), though carping out will obviously put an end to things (I have done this before, albeit unintentionally, wanted to redose to keep the tripping awesome going...got too greedy).
 
belfort said:
distyboi-you seem like you are talking about addiction and withdrawals as opposed to the rebound correct?
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In a way yes, if you use it very occasionally then waking up after using it for 12 hours or so use will not give very severe side effects apart from a brief insomnia episode where you can't sleep and will feel restless.

Saying this, some people tend to wake up and feel ok enough to fall asleep again quite quickly, yet some people seem to get bad rebound anxiety effects and spend a night tossing and turing in bed.

It really depends on how much you do, and for how long you do it. One thing is nearly guaranteed though; you will get a rebound effect about 2-4 hours after your last dose and wake up. If you feel very uneasy when you do wake up you have overdone it. And the more often this happens the worse it usually gets. It might be brief but it's not nice.

I'd still recommmend the effects of this over alcohol anyday though :)
 
6-APB had some issues when I needed it for as you called it 'pulling'. It somewhat reduces sex drive for me and thus I was sometimes in situation where I wasn't thinking of anything while talking to a girl, just empty mind - for me that is a problem, because of having no goal.

Anyway, since I'm really up to flirting, I'll do it all. I think it could be the actual reason I created this thread, was just afraid of myself... or something like that.

Thank you all, I've got all the questions answered. Having a slight glimpse of social phobia, I can't wait to try GHB in people environment, or to hook up with girls. I hope it'll work awesome. Fuck, i really can't wait :p

Thankz!
 
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Limitbreaker said:
6-APB had some issues when I needed it for as you called it 'pulling'. It somewhat reduces sex drive for me and thus I was sometimes in situation where I wasn't thinking of anything while talking to a girl, just empty mind - for me that is a problem, because of having no goal.

Anyway, since I'm really up to flirting, I'll do it all. I think it could be the actual reason I created this thread, was just afraid of myself... or something like that.

Thank you all, I've got all the questions answered. Having a slight glimpse of social phobia, I can't wait to try GHB in people environment, or to hook up with girls.

Thankz!
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6-APB reduces your sex drive? For me it's the exact opposite. Nothing else comes close to the sex drive of 6-APB, although trying to maintain an erection on 6-APB is another matter altogether.
 
Well, maybe I've used the wrong word.

Not reduces, but it makes me unable to think of some set of goals. Damn. I don't know. Chatting, talking and flirting is very good on 6-APB, but I feel like it's not enough. I lack my mind thinking of doing some halfway-crazy stuff to impress (well not really...) or maybe rather suprise her.

Maybe it's not the substance, maybe it's me. If you guys think it's me then this thread is now about me being socially fucked up ;)
 
I suppose the fact of the matter is that no drug is going to teach you the tricks of the trade when it comes to social gatherings, and especially girls. It'd be nice if life were like The Matrix, when Neo plugs himself in and instantly learns kung-fu, but alas, the most any of these drugs can do is make you feel confident and more at ease with your behaviour. They won't teach you how to behave.
 
I realize that, I just felt like I had more of a 'flow' mind with alcohol than 6-APB...

Until I've stopped drinking almost at all.
 
Limitbreaker said:
I realize that, I just felt like I had more of a 'flow' mind with alcohol than 6-APB...

Until I've stopped drinking almost at all.
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I'd have to agree that alcohol is a better social lubricant than 6-APB. The latter's impact on thought processes puts you at odds with sober/drunk people's thought processes. Many of my most awkward memories are down to 6-APB 8) And they are awkward.
 
What do you mean by those awkward moments? If you can explain :)

It surely puts you at odds against drunk people, but sobriety?
 
Limitbreaker said:
What do you mean by those awkward moments? If you can explain :)

It surely puts you at odds against drunk people, but sobriety?
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I find the awkwardness is much worse when trying to converse with sober people. My tone of voice changes noticeably on 6-APB. People may not guess that I'm on drugs, but they do sense a strangeness in the air. I struggle to think of responses in simple conversations, and what I do say often sounds nervous and odd. I tend to respond to simple statements with unnecessarily deep and abstract twaddle. I can't help it, 6-APB just makes me think that way. People do notice and it is awkward. Conversations die in spectacular fashion.
 
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