Hey! What do you look like? Show us! Mk VII

[Marmalade]

To play devils advocate now, and i hope no one posts it for YPDH's sake did anyone see that series of images that was doing the rounds on the net a few years ago ? About the bloke that got an insect bite on his scull, that gradually became moe and more infected, before he eventually presented himself at a hospital in an unimaginable state. (Guessing thay story was fake and the pictures were skilfully photoshopped)

I know that picture. I'm not sure if it's photo shopped or not, and i don't particularly like looking at gruesome REAL images, and try to avoid it if poss.

once you know theyre out there, and have seen a few, you know what to avoid looking at.

photoshops and meme's come under a different remit to real imagery for me though, and I like the humour, depending on what's being depicted. they obviously cross over some similar contentious issues though

 

[Marmalade]

Yeah for one thing, i doubt its physically possible to stretch ones bum that far open. Even if it was, i dont think the resulting 'interior' would look like that !

it's possible. the original goaste set shows that and more

also, the resulting interior can be pushed out to look far worse than that, it looks like a prolapsed anus, which is what it is.

it can be pushed back inside again though

 

[watsons torment]

I said above watson .. I dont know if it was photo shopped or not.. Id like to if you could find out.. Even if it was its still
projecting the same image.

Ive seen it, youve all seen it.. its in my mind now.. I didnt want it there.

I work with photoshop everyday, i've got an good eye for fakes and that is 100% fake, the bloke with the big bumhole is how ever real. its an italian bloke that for what ever reason likes to stretch his bumhole and post pictures of it on the internet. maybe when you realize that it is a completely fake composition you'll be a little less shocked by it.

quite like how when i see someone get shot and killed in a movie i don't flinch but if i were to see a real recording of such event i'd be in tatters.

mydrugsbuddy, that blokes bumhole really is that big as much as you'd like to doubt its possible. I have no problem believing a bumhole can stretch so big.. what worries me is that it will never go back to its normal size and that man might have to wear a nappy for life.

 

[brimz]

Lulz at reading the last posts about the pic. Who posted it again ?

 

[Marmalade]

aren't these subjective though? i certainly get affected by some (more realistic and generally relating to the news rather than 'for entertainment purposes') imagery, just not gore/grossout, more likely to find it funny than disturbing.

indeed. the posting of soldiers being killed, beheaded and such, and the recent pictures of gaddaffi, I find it saddening that people wish to see. brutality like that just makes me feel ashamed of being a human

 

[YellowPolkaDotHalo]

No I dont think they are subjective. There used to be some aggreement on what the boundaries were.. Increasingly the boundaries seem to be betting blurred.. maybe its just as someone said here people are becoming numb and desensitised.

Maybe its drugs that are responsible in some way.. prescription or otherwise.. Mrs Eli Lilly et al has cast a spell on most of the world and sent them half asleep..
Drugs wear off though .. No doubt people wont be either self medicated or in that state for much longer..

Our desensitised governments are unlikely to continue to provide free drugs to people in the future and most the people that have dangerous boundaries with them could be on the way to being the unmedicated, mentally ill of our futures 'numb' society.What will happen to them?
Maybe we can put them on a stage and see how far they can stretch their arses out for our
entertainment??

* shrug * dunno Im getting in the bath..

Watson.. why is the image of a pale pretty emaciated looking naked man opening his arsehole out to a horrified kid funny?

 

[watsons torment]

it's possible. the original goaste set shows that and more

also, the resulting interior can be pushed out to look far worse than that, it looks like a prolapsed anus, which is what it is.

it can be pushed back inside again though

Ahh the 'pink sock'

NSFW:

 

[Marmalade]

I work with photoshop everyday, i've got an good eye for fakes and that is 100% fake, the bloke with the big bumhole is how ever real. its an italian bloke that for what ever reason likes to stretch his bumhole and post pictures of it on the internet. maybe when you realize that it is a completely fake composition you'll be a little less shocked by it.

quite like how when i see someone get shot and killed in a movie i don't flinch but if i were to see a real recording of such event i'd be in tatters.

mydrugsbuddy, that blokes bumhole really is that big as much as you'd like to doubt its possible. I have no problem believing a bumhole can stretch so big.. what worries me is that it will never go back to its normal size and that man might have to wear a nappy for life.

when it gets that big, it can be part pushed back in. I remember reading that some guys who used to be into inserting larger and larger objects often used tampons afterwards to help with dealing with prolapse [and to avoid escaping poos]

http://www.bme.com/ used to have some sections related to this back in the day. not sure if they still do though, and it went pay/members after i stopped looking years ago

 

[Marmalade]

No I dont think they are subjective. There used to be some aggreement on what the boundaries were.. Increasingly the boundaries seem to be betting blurred.. maybe its just as someone said here people are becoming numb and desensitised.

Maybe its drugs that are doing it.. prescription or otherwise.. Mrs Eli Lilly et al has cast a spell on most of the world and sent them half asleep..
Drugs wear off though .. No doubt people wont be either self medicated or by the state for much longer..

* shrug * dunno Im getting in the bath..

I'm not desensitized.

it's a VERY broad topic, that is complex and crisscrosses between many moral and ethical junctions.
I'm not sure where any 'agreements' for any boundaries exist. and if I've agreed to them at some point, then I haven't been notified.
I've certainly developed my own boundaries over time though and they're benchmarked by my love of humans and humanity.

Lulz at reading the last posts about the pic. Who posted it again ?

I posted a rockstar goatse meme lookalike in this post. lots of other images are now being 'fondly' remembered from the internet classics vault. like tubgirl and such

 

[Jabberwocky]

No I dont think they are subjective. There used to be some aggreement on what the boundaries were.. Increasingly the boundaries seem to be betting blurred.. maybe its just as someone said here people are becoming numb and desensitised.

without going into the moral philosophy aspect and asking, well if there are moral laws, where do they come from and how are we to access them etc... i don't think this agreement existed if you look at the totality of humanity across history. the ancient greeks and the victorians would certainly have disagreed on the boundaries. the boundaries are now definitely being pushed, but i don't think this constitutes a moral decline in humanity.

 

[rockstar 69]

I work with photoshop everyday, i've got an good eye for fakes and that is 100% fake, the bloke with the big bumhole is how ever real. its an italian bloke that for what ever reason likes to stretch his bumhole and post pictures of it on the internet. maybe when you realize that it is a completely fake composition you'll be a little less shocked by it.

quite like how when i see someone get shot and killed in a movie i don't flinch but if i were to see a real recording of such event i'd be in tatters.

mydrugsbuddy, that blokes bumhole really is that big as much as you'd like to doubt its possible. I have no problem believing a bumhole can stretch so big.. what worries me is that it will never go back to its normal size and that I might have to wear a nappy for life.

You'd have to be a complete dohnut to think that was real. The kid looks completely out of place and obviously was taken from another picture..

Fixed. And oh, errr, continence pads for chistmas anyone? :D

 

[YellowPolkaDotHalo]

I thought it was real. Like I said though ( scroll up ^) Real or not its still a rank photo. (IMUNO) In my un numbed opinion.

Chinup can you find anything 'morally right ' about that picture.. I mean really scrape the 'right' barrel if you like.

 

[Marmalade]

Watson.. why is the image of a pale pretty emaciated looking naked man opening his arsehole out to a horrified kid funny?

context of the image, and its history is needed. coupled with knowledge of the situation in which it was posted

extreme media is a very topical issue at the minute, as it should be. and the glorification of the grotesque for amusement or entertainment and the questions of moral and ethical concerns it raises.

if you're interested on how it's being discussed and talked about, Charlie Brooker has directed a new satire Comedy/drama, which raises all the questions youre asking. He's an intelligent guy, and not sensationalist.

The story surrounds a kidnapped princess, who's kidnapper demands that the Prime Minister be filmed fucking a pig on live television/youtube etc, to secure her release

it's not done with the intention of showing you grotesque imagery, and you dont see the act. it's about the questionable treatment and reaction to such, by society

from the same stock as Chris Morris, who has addressed similar topics in the past

 

[Jabberwocky]

sounds v interesting marmalade- will check it out.

on a related-ish note. i was very surprised in my introductory cbt assessment yesterday. on the subject of hobbies, they very specifically pushed me on how long i spend playing violent video games. maybe there are current psychological theories that suggest some types of extreme imagery effect us afterall.

 

[YellowPolkaDotHalo]

To stay with the 'desensitised theme' yeah, chinup, theres footage of teen troops mowing down Iraqis whooping as though it was a video game.
There have also been a few studies* done recently that suggest that children that play excessive violent video games have less empathy than their non gaming peers.

Perhaps theres even an age correlation between people who do find the picture sickening and creepy and those that dont.
Or those that play violent video games and those that dont.. or those that just randomly flick through sewage online and
those that still have restraint.

It seems that most EAdder in this thread arent repulsed by that photo.. I'm interested to hear what Bluelights position is if you are still pursuing that Marmalade.

Re context.. I hadnt read the thread.. I was just looking at the posts on that page.. Had I read the thread I still wouldnt
have been happy to see the photo and would still want to challenge your reasons for putting it there.
You said you have your own boundaries for these things that are tempered by your 'love of humanity' This relates back to the conversation we had the other night re you living by the slogan ' do as you will as long as it doesnt hurt anyone'..
The guy in the pic is degrading himself for your entertainment. The kid is likely to be damaged whether he was in the photo or not. You've violated my right to filter images that I want in my head.. the same goes for anyone else that looks at the thread

Do you think your taking amusement in the photo and sharing it in here is living by your code or was there a lapse?

Wake up!


*I think the studies a few years old now. The documentary has been repeated 2 or 3 times.. its the one with the pencil case dropping on the floor..I'll track it down if you havnt seen it.

 

[knock]

No I dont think they are subjective. There used to be some aggreement on what the boundaries were.. Increasingly the boundaries seem to be betting blurred.. maybe its just as someone said here people are becoming numb and desensitised.

To some extent I can agree with what you're saying here YPDH, traditionally there has been an "agreement", or rather there have been many agreements, on the boundaries because mass media has been centrally controlled, and access to it, as publisher, available only to a few. Differences in where and when you live mean you will be subject to different controlling bodies, so the agreement has only ever been localised in space and time depending respectively on the geographic reach of those controlling bodies and the longevity of the prevailing attitudes within them. A similar picture could be drawn for public morals generally.

The Internet has to a greater or lesser extent democratised access to mass media so those agreements no longer hold in the same way, although you can see that individual controlling bodies, to different degrees (e.g. Chinese government for one extreme) would like them to.

You asked Marmalade if she could find moral right (or something like that) in the pic she posted. Knowing as I do that it's been faked, I think it's devoid of moral content, unless you want to judge the sexual peccadillos of the man with the gaping hole (not my cup of tea really but it's his choice what he does with his anus). This despite the fact that the young lad DOES look 13 and not "20+"!

That's not to say that I enjoy looking at the picture (OK, I laughed) or that you need to either, and perhaps NSFW understates the case.

 

[YellowPolkaDotHalo]

Would a faked picture of a 50 year old man having sex with a 14 year old still be any less disturbing to you?

 

[Albion]

context of the image, and its history is needed. coupled with knowledge of the situation in which it was posted

extreme media is a very topical issue at the minute, as it should be. and the glorification of the grotesque for amusement or entertainment and the questions of moral and ethical concerns it raises.

if you're interested on how it's being discussed and talked about, Charlie Brooker has directed a new satire Comedy/drama, which raises all the questions youre asking. He's an intelligent guy, and not sensationalist.

The story surrounds a kidnapped princess, who's kidnapper demands that the Prime Minister be filmed fucking a pig on live television/youtube etc, to secure her release

it's not done with the intention of showing you grotesque imagery, and you dont see the act. it's about the questionable treatment and reaction to such, by society

from the same stock as Chris Morris, who has addressed similar topics in the past

I fucking love Charlie Brooker. Thanks for the link.


Perhaps alongside NSFW (Not Suitable For Work) tags, we should have NSFSS (Not Suitable For Sensitive Souls) tags.

 

[knock]

Would a faked picture of a 50 year old man having sex with a 14 year old still be any less disturbing to you?

Yes, it would be more disturbing, because it would be a gross invasion of the privacy of the 14 year old, and the procurement of the necessary images (presumably of a naked 14 year old girl or boy) to produce such a faked composite image would be highly questionable.

I don't think there has been a gross invasion of privacy in the pic Marmalade has posted, although having now considered the privacy angle there is indeed some invasion. But the child porn factor is not present as far as I can see.

 

[YellowPolkaDotHalo]

Assuming it is a fake.. Whos the kid?

I think the kid looking into the chaps gaping colon made me connect the photo with porn.

If the guy had a priests cloak on would it be acceptable? Would it be porn? Would it be abuse? Would it be funny?