• 💊 OTHER DRUGS 💊 Welcome Guest
    Posting Rules Bluelight Rules
    Notable Threads 1 Notable Threads 2
    Dangerous Combos Addiction Support
    Emergency Services Benzo Guide v.1
    Addiction Stories Scary Case Studies
    Biology, Pharmacology & Drugs 101
  • Select Your Topic Then Scroll Down
    Alcohol Bupe Benzos
    Cocaine Heroin Opioids
    RCs Stimulants Misc
    Harm Reduction All Topics Gabapentinoids
    Tired of your habit? Struggling to cope?
    Want to regain control or get sober?
    Visit our Recovery Support Forums

Opioids Opiate taper technique question.

H

Hobble

Bluelighter
Joined
Sep 9, 2010
Messages
106
If you are tapering down opiates to get off them and you are down to say 50mg/day snorted Opana and you stop completely, or nearly completely for a day or two and endure the withdrawls, can you jump back into your taper at a drasticaly lower dose, like say to 30mg/day and feel good/aka "well"?

Basicly I'm doing a taper and it's comfortable to lower by 1mg/day but I don't have access to enough opiate to continue on such a schedule. If I continued just lowering by 1mg/day I would run out when I'm still at 20mg/day or so and then I would suffer bad insomnia for many days. I was thinking if I toughed it out for a couple days I could start back up at a much lower dose and it would serve three functions 1) Only having insomnia for 1 or 2 days 2) Shortening the total overall length of the taper, and 3)not running out completely while I'm still at too high of a daily dose. Once I started back up on the taper at the lower dose I would continue lowering by 1mg/day. Would that work? I know it would be real bad for the 2 days of little to no opiates but that might be preferable to jumping off at too high of a dose and getting insomnia for many days.
 
I don't think it would make much of a difference overall, unless it allowed for your -1mg a day plan. It'd be much easier to decrease by 5-15mg a day. All in all if you jump off when your body is used to 5-15mg, w/d's will be much more tolerable then if you needed 20-30mg to stay well. There are many things to help with insomnia. There's much advice here about easing withdrawal pain if you search for it.

It really depends on what the end result is. Will you actually be able to stick to a good taper plan and stop using? Or will you use your last good dose all at once when w/d's kick in?

I have to ask though, how do you measure out 1mg?
 
Yeah, you can. Can't guarantee it will work entirely but going without opiates entirely for two days will definitely result in you needing less to get "well".
 
I measure out the 1mg with a scale after computing the weight of the pill and the mgs of active ingredient.

I am by no means an expert at withdrawl but I have cold turkied off about 40mgs/day of snorted Opana so I know about how it will feel to go the 2 days. I have also tapered a couple times, once using Opana and once using Kadian. I think I can stick to this taper but only time will tell. I was up to about 100mg Opana/day snorted and am already down to about 50mg/day and so far feeling pretty resigned to not getting high and just feeling satisfied with "well". As to whether I can stay off it for good, I don't want to think about that now. Probably not but I definately want to be sober for a while 'cause I'm sick of my life being ruled by 4 to 6 hour increments.

Thanks very much for the answers and if anybody has any more information to share, esp, regarding just how much tolerance would be lowered in the 2 days I would appreciate it.
 
After two days with nothing, almost any opiate going into your system is going to feel incredible. Even if you don't get fully well, just the relief you get from that utter withdrawal hell will be euphoric in itself.
 
burn out said:
After two days with nothing, almost any opiate going into your system is going to feel incredible. Even if you don't get fully well, just the relief you get from that utter withdrawal hell will be euphoric in itself.
Click to expand...

This is SO TRUE. That relief is a high in itself. It's an incredible feeling. I start shaking and jonesing and as soon as that opana hits my nostrils ahhhhh. My stomach stops doing back flips, i stop sweating, and i literally would sigh with relief.

No more of that though :P

AS FOR TAKING 30mg a day or two into withdrawals: firstly, i doubt you will even make it that far if you have opana in your possession, sorry to say, but the only time i ever suffered withdrawals was when i couldn't rob/steal/cheat to get more, they are hell. SECONDLY, i feel that taking that dose after a day or two into withdrawals will pretty much put you back to square one, or close. a taper is a much better idea instead of hopping on/off every few days which will confuse the shit out of your body and make the withdrawals last that much LONGER.

just my 2 cents
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top