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Whats your current no. 1 psychedelic in terms of cost / effects?

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Just name the best psychedelic in terms of comparing cost with effects. I know this is highly subjective but the cost for some compounds is pretty much standard atm.

Interested to see everyone responses. :)


// This is not a price thread //
 
not considering the initial investment, homegrown mushrooms are the cheapest you can get. that, or picking up some in the nearby forest.

i bet some people here are more prone to getting free stuff at festivals if those count :)

but i dont really like price discussions and in terms of cost/effect.. lets just consider mxe for instance, some people like it as small doses(20mg or less), while other only get their kicks at 100mg. now it might be cost effective for some but not for others. not to mention something might be cost effective at the beginning, but then you develop a massive tolerance and constantly need more.
 
Nobody can give you straight answers without this becoming a price thread, and since each person's favorite drug will be different, then it's totally irrelevant. Many people would prefer LSD if it were $1 per dose, but they settle for 2C-X instead because LSD is usually much more expensive and difficult to get (sometimes)
 
I think with something quite as deep as psychedelics it's not the best idea to buy something based on the cost, as each of these compounds provide very valuable experiences, and different people find different ones suit them better. You might be happy with one psychedelic because you're unwilling to shell out more for a different one, but it could be that other psychedelic might have turned out to be your favourite.

I'm going to leave this open for now, but seriously, no mention of prices or this'll get closed fast. :p
 
I now this highly subjective once saying that myself in first place. I think this leaves for very random opinions that can be interesting to read, like the ones alread said. Dont be so citrical. ;)
 
This is silly. Not only are prices and all over the map for, well, everything... acid, RCs, shrooms... but for LSD anyway potency can be very low or very high. And the effects are so all over the map as well, it is just a totally meaningless question purely on these technicalities.

But in a deeper view, cost is irrelevant (as long as we're not talking some sort of absurdly rare and extremely expensive oddity) when dealing with seeking an experience that so profoundly alters your mindstate and that is only taken rarely. Well I guess some may be in the habit of tripping on SOMETHING every weekend if they can (as I did for a few periods in my past), but that gets boring pretty fast, and even if you do that, how significant really is the distinction between your weekly dose of whatever costing $5, $10 or $30? OK maybe $100/month, hardly seems like something you would base your decision on... who in their right mind would/should choose something that gives them an inferior experience just to save a couple dollars? That's what mystifies me about the original question, I just can't understand anyone making that tradeoff. (Sorry fly, nothing personal). I guess if you are buying in large bulk quantity to sell for profit, or acquire a lifetime supply of or something, but still, it seems severely short sighted to be worrying about pocket change when you are talking about a "Key" that unlocks The Mind! It's about the experience, not the price per dose.

But having said all that, the answer is obvious (as long as you have a good connection that is making strong hits at a fair price): LSD.
 
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who in their right mind would/should choose something that gives them an inferior experience just to save a couple dollars?
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What the hell are you talking about, for those of not 40 years old the difference between $4 and $100 a month is enormous.
 
I don't know what the going rate for LSD is around here, but I can get stoned off weed multiple times a week for 3-4 months for the cost of two tanks of gasoline. But then again, dropping acid a few times is probably more fun than smoking weed almost daily. Not to mention less harmful to academics.

So sort of a pointless question. Hard to answer for one, and experiences/prices vary so much that it's basically pointless to talk about.
 
2c-b, straight up.. More a question of availability/effects for me, but same difference. 2c-b is my perfect outing drug. It puts me in a serene headspace, similar to one I might attain after hours of meditation. I become sharp, focused, more confident and agile. I can dance like a motherfucking boss on that shit (not gonna lie I'm pretty good at dancing in general, 2c-b dancing is INTENSE tho lol).. It's not a drug I feel the need to dose high on, as I become more versed in it's effects I find each experience is similar despite the dose, the main thing which becomes more intense with higher dosage is the visuals, which are breathtaking.

Everything I need in a drug, everything other drugs have fallen short of, the perfect social psychedelic.
 
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What the hell are you talking about, for those of not 40 years old the difference between $4 and $100 a month is enormous.
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If you are anything more than a high school kid $95 is not "enormous" in this day and age. And look at what even they pay for phones, music, clothes, etc.

If you are getting large bulk amounts of something or growing it yourself then I can see your 4X/month trip-expense being only $4 but otherwise I don't think that's even possible, and if you are buying sheets or vials of LSD I am pretty sure a difference of less than $100/month is noise to you... I mean, dude, you spend 3.33/day on typical miscellania like coffee, candy bar, soda, gum, etc and that's $100/month.

Also, if $100 a month is more important to you than the contents of highly powerful drugs going into your brain... I think you have FAR bigger issues than your psychedelic budget.

The concept of appylying "cost effectivity" to psychedelics is asinine in the utmost, I still maintain. One's concerns are misplaced if that is what is being worried about... if cost is the issue then you are doing so much of them that you really need to be WAAAAY more worried about long term cognitive effects, not a few $20 bills.
 
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I don't know that the effects of psychedelics are really quantifiable in any useful manner. You might as well ask which food has the best cost-benefit ratio, or which video game, or drug in general for that matter. The value of the experience depends not only on the person but on their immediate situation; you don't take MDMA on a hike, nor DPT at a rave.
 
Biovail said:
I can get stoned off weed .. for 3-4 months for the cost of two tanks of gasoline..
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Sorry Biovail, gonna take your quote out of context to illustrate my point..
Or you could cut out the middleman by just huffing a stash of two tanks of gasoline.

Mostly agree with DwayneHoover's points. If psychoactive Spam is the goal, maybe inhalants or deliriants give the most fuck-up for the buck. At some point though, hopefully one moves on from that mindset. Quality of experience, insight, and transformative power will be much more satisfying in the end.
 
For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul?
Sometimes you get what you pay for. A Rocky Mountain High is pretty free, if you live nearby.
 
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Look, all I'm saying is that when someone is deciding between buying two personally valuable chemicals, ie 5-meo-mipt vs. 2c-e, and one happens to be about a third the cost of the other, it is clearly a factor in the decision. Some people are in college, paying for loans, food, social obligations, and many other things. It is not ridiculous to be a bit scrupulous in deciding between worthwhile chemicals.
 
This is sort of a rediculous question. I would never consider cost as a deciding factor over choosing a preferred psychedelic substance.

If I want to trip on shrooms, I'll buy some shrooms. If I want to trip on LSD, I'll buy some LSD. But of course doses of some of the more commonly available research psychedelics are cheaper per dose. That's not why I'd choose to take them though.

Also it depends, are we talking 4-aco-DMT at 50/g or 200/g here? This leads into price discussion which isn't allowed (or at least a fine line to walk).

:P
 
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