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Heroin Why am I not withdrawing??? Please help

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vegas702

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I was withdrawing with constant anxiety and uncomfortableness on the first night of not smoking black tar heroin off of a 3 year addiction. I thought xanax would help but it didn't for some reason. By the end of the first night, I couldn't take the pain and I wanted to sleep so bad that I took 5mg of methadone. I then fell asleep until 6pm the next morning not sick at all. I made it through that day not sick and fell asleep at night. Now it's the 3rd day I should be withdrawing an I'm not. I thought the methadone only lasted 24 hours.

If the methadone is still in my system and that's why I'm not sick, does that mean that when the methadone wears off, will I have to start my 4 day black tar withdrawl again? Or will I be done with withdrawl?
Thanks to anyone who replies.
 
I don't know, but I wouldn't be complaining if I wasn't in withdrawal lmfao...
 
<snip> I want to know if i'm going to have to go through it again when the methadone wears off.
 
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Don't have personal experience with this so can't really be of help, but I think methadone has a half life of 20-30 hours. So it's probably still clearing your system, and put you back into WD once it's gone.

Can be useful to taper off with methadone though, if 5mg fixed you up for this long, try decreasing the dose by something like 1mg every couple days.
 
my guess is that the methadone is still in your system. when it wears off, you will again be in withdrawal. whether or not you will be at stage one again or whether this will have slightly stepped you down the path towards sobriety, only you will know. you might get luckey and just not get w/d again at all--i've heard of things like that happening before--also a quick methadone taper is a common way to get off of opiates relatively quickly and painlessly.

however, in your case, my money is on w/d restarting. you could always then take 2.5 mg methadone when that happen, take 1.25 when it happens again, and so on until you complete something like a taper, but as everyone on these boards knows, it's much easier to stop than to stay off opiates. good luck

EDIT: ha, Naon, juust saw you wrote ~ what i did just above
 
I've been on a few binges where all I did was take one 8mg suboxone and only experienced very minor withdrawals a few days later.

I guess you will find out soon enough if you will end up withdrawing. Maybe the bth you were getting was very low quality making the withdrawals not last long.
 
yea, sorry vegas, noone is going to be able to tell you for sure. you've got a few opinions. odds are you will reexperience at least some more withdrawal symptoms when that 'done wears off, but like i said before and tommyboy confirmed w/ some firsthand experiences, sometimes weird shit like withdrawal not coming back has been known to happen. it's fairly unlikely. is there any reason you couldn't try a methadone taper if you do start w/d again since it seems to have worked pretty well thus far?
 
Tommyboy said:
I've been on a few binges where all I did was take one 8mg suboxone and only experienced very minor withdrawals a few days later.

I guess you will find out soon enough if you will end up withdrawing. Maybe the bth you were getting was very low quality making the withdrawals not last long.
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You maybe right about the quality. I always hear that it is low grade compared to other opiates. I smoked it though, so idk. I just hope the 5 mg of methadone won't make me have to totally restart the black tar withdrawls when it's worn off. Your right again though, I'll just have to find out. Thanks a lot to you and anyone else who will and that has replied. If anyone else has some info, please let me know. Also, how long would 5mg of methadone take to get out of your system(in terms of urine testing?)
 
stray cat said:
yea, sorry vegas, noone is going to be able to tell you for sure. you've got a few opinions. odds are you will reexperience at least some more withdrawal symptoms when that 'done wears off, but like i said before and tommyboy confirmed w/ some firsthand experiences, sometimes weird shit like withdrawal not coming back has been known to happen. it's fairly unlikely. is there any reason you couldn't try a methadone taper if you do start w/d again since it seems to have worked pretty well thus far?
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Thanks for reply. I wish I could wing myself off, but I'm going on probation in a week and I just turned 18, so I don't want to go to prison lol. But it is my intention to quit. It's not just cause of probation. I hate being this way.
 
I've had this happen before to myself and my friend. He thought he was off of Dilaudid w/d-free until 3 days later after all the methadone cleared and he was back where he started, in painful withdrawal. He didn't taper, so that's one scenario. My scenario is different, I did taper, and it took 48 hours for the kick to begin, after that I was back in withdrawal, but not quite as bad as straight off of the hydromorph itself. However it still took the same amount of time. If you aren't going to taper, fuck the methadone, but if you are, use it sparingly--I mean just enough to hold you. Take 2.5 to start then the next day 1.25, then 1.25 every 2 days, then take about .5mg, wait 2, .25 and jump off. That's what I'd do anyway. The longer you prolong it, the more chance you have of methadone withdrawal, and you do NOT want that. By the way, if you're wondering how to take those low doses without splitting a tablet in 20 pieces, just make a solution of about 1mg/mL in volume we could say about 5mg/5mL to make it easy. Get yourself a little syringe and get yourself set. If you're too sick to take it by mouth, you can always use it rectally. Good luck, dude! You can do it.
 
vegas702 said:
Thanks for reply. I wish I could wing myself off, but I'm going on probation in a week and I just turned 18, so I don't want to go to prison lol. But it is my intention to quit. It's not just cause of probation. I hate being this way.
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What about trying Kratom, it helps with withdrawal and isn't scheduled in most countries.
 
vegas702 said:
Thanks for reply. I wish I could wing myself off, but I'm going on probation in a week and I just turned 18, so I don't want to go to prison lol. But it is my intention to quit. It's not just cause of probation. I hate being this way.
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What about trying Kratom, it helps with withdrawal and isn't scheduled in most countries.
 
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UPDATE:
By the way, I took liquid methadone after the first night of withdrawl. Sorry I've been on xanax to ease the pain so my memory is off.
It would now be my 4th day of heroin withdrawl and I'm sure the 5 mg of liquid methadone has worn of by now. It was hard to sleep last night and I started getting aches, but I manged to get a little sleep. I woke up today(should be my 4th day of heroin withdrawl) with aches and since then I've taken 2 2mg xanax and I feel fine. Maybe I hit the jackpot and I am one of those freaky cases that worked and I will not have to withdrawl again. I'm thinking this because even though I've never done methadone before until after the 1st night of withdrawl, the methadone I drank was only 5 mg so I seriously doubt it could still be taking effect, but idk. What do you think???
Thank you so much to everyone who has tried to help and whoever continues to do so.
 
I've had issues with not going thru wd/dt's sometimes. I dunno if there is a medical difference really, but I usually detox really hard from mass opiate binges, because I can't score a half of quality smack all the time (or afford enough pharm-grade opiates to even it out). If I only do a roxi30 or a couple dilly's I don't wd that bad. I wouldn't complain tho', I feel fortunate I don't wake up everyday in a terrible mood and stomach irritability. :P
 
It depends how much heroin is really in black tar you smoked and I'm guessing it's a low amount. Otherwise it'd be strange that 5mg of methadone keeps you off withdrawal for such a long time. I would feel nothing from 5mg of methadone so it's probably just a matter of time when methadone gets out of your system and there's already not much of it right now, I guess.
 
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