[MEGA] Strain Discussion- 3rd Backcross *ALL STRAIN TALK IN HERE*

[Artificial Emotion]

This is so frustrating. I really want to post some photos but can't bring myself to upload them to image an image sharing website. Before the upgrade you could upload to Bluelight but that feature has gone now.

Do you guys think it's safe uploading to imgur? I'm in two minds as to whether I should take the risk or not.

 

[Chainer]

I just bought some Indian Haze seeds (bet nobody here has ever tried that)

I smoked a whole shit ton of landrace strains when I stayed in India for a couple months.

I gotta be honest, I prefer my east coast home grown and MMJ imported from CA. The prices were... erm... kinder... in India, though.


AE, I'm so bold that I use photobucket... no grow pics, but 100s of bud shots. there are a lot of anonymous hosting sites out there

 

[Damien]

I think you have to ask yourself are you worth it? How could they even begin to prove that those are your pictures? You could have downloaded those and then just re-uploaded them to show to your friends to make it look like you're the ultra cool pot grower! I commend your diligence in security but I think you can rest easy uploading a few pics here and there. I believe IMGR gives you the option to delete them as well. So after all your BL friends have seen your pics for a week or so you can always just delete them. Just be smart as you can about it e.g. we don't need to see your whole breeding room to get and idea of what your working on. Just take a picture of one plant here, one plant there, you know what I'm sayin.

Just my .02. I'm no security expert but I think we've both seen some of the insane pictures people get away with posting on the net.

 

[Vader]

^Someone felt comfortable posting a picture of their 5-oz brick of MDMA in NASNASDSDSASDS, and imgur strips exif data automatically, so I think you'd be fine. Having said that, you're the one taking the risk, it has to be your choice, AE.

 

[nope]

That pic can't really tell you anything. It looks middish to me, but since it's (presumably) from a camera phone, the quality makes it hard to see if or how many seeds there are, etc. It's all in how it smokes; some of the best bud I've had looked like some bricked mids, but the quality and price were outrageously good. Even for bud that had been bricked and had a fair amount of seeds, it was REALLY good and had a taste like a pine tree crossed with sandalwood; haven't had anything that tasted even remotely close to it since then. Very heady Mexican sativa strain, wish I could go back 12 years and get a bale!
I'm sure you've probably already tried it, so what did you think?

 

[Artificial Emotion]

I smoked a whole shit ton of landrace strains when I stayed in India for a couple months.

I gotta be honest, I prefer my east coast home grown and MMJ imported from CA. The prices were... erm... kinder... in India, though.


AE, I'm so bold that I use photobucket... no grow pics, but 100s of bud shots. there are a lot of anonymous hosting sites out there

Indian Haze is a cross between kerala and original haze that has been worked, so definitely not a landrace. However about your comment about landrace strains being mediocre, don't let that put you off since there are some amazing landrace genetics available that far surpass most of the generic polyhybrids available today. I've just purchased these strains myself - kumaoni, malana cream and garhwali shiva, all of which are pure himalyan charas plants. The problem with a lot of the worked lines of today is that they've been selected for things like yield, dense covering of trichomes, short flowering time and short height and high THC levels. The problem with that is that the most important thing for a personal smoker, which is a complex profile of cannabinoids that actually gives a good high and not some mediocre stone is lost in the process. Because everything is crossed with everything, the genepool becomes limited and you can even get a genetic bottleneck. But anyway, a lot of the most legendary and classic strains like blueberry and white widow were made from building blocks. Those building blocks were landrace strains.

Originally the only reason these landrace strains were hybridized and worked to produce commercial lines is because the breeder found a landrace strain he liked to smoke and he wanted to breed it to preserve that stellar smoke but offer it a high yielding form that could be grown indoors. Since then instead of turning to these basic landrace components that truly amazing hybrids can be created from, people have just crossed the latest hybrids with each other, which is a mistake IMO.

However that said, not all landrace strains are equal. It's only in particular areas in south east asia (Thailand in particular) or the himalayas and other places that the best landrace genetics are available. You'd have to know exactly where to go to find them and unfortunately most of the weed in India is pretty shit, so don't let that bad experience put you off landrace genetics completely. The beauty about these strains is that due to some of their true breeding traits you can produce F1 hybrid crosses very easily which can be grown out as many times as you like since you would have a virtually unlimited supply of seed potentially available.
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I've found a really interesting worked Thai strain called voodoo. It's quite reasonably priced it seems and allows you to grow a Thai heirloom-type strain indoors or outdoors in a place like the UK, so I'll definitely be growing that for sure. The flowering time is only about 9-10 weeks, so I'm sure I can find a short flowering phenotype that would suit my needs perfectly. I can't wait to get it.

 

[samm2]

Seems to me a lot of India bashing going of on here.....I would think if a species is named "Cannabis Indica" after the country of India we really should be grateful of a potent species bred for something other than fiber used for ropemaking........the plant was quietly bred for psychoactivity in India throughout the ages and revered...(I'm not Indian though in case anyone wondered).

 

[Artificial Emotion]

^ I am in no way bashing india or the wonderful landrace vars that come from the country.

 

[samm2]

Sorry, I mean't bashing Indian weed, I guess every country has it's "schwag".........

 

[papa]

This is so frustrating. I really want to post some photos but can't bring myself to upload them to image an image sharing website. Before the upgrade you could upload to Bluelight but that feature has gone now.

Do you guys think it's safe uploading to imgur? I'm in two minds as to whether I should take the risk or not.

Bluelight has restored our permissions to post attachments. However, since all images posted in CD are required to be hidden using NSFW tags, the feature can not be used here because there is no way to put an attachment behind NSFW tags..FYI this feature can be found under the Go Advanced posting option. There is a [Manage Attachments] button at the bottom of the page..

 

[Artificial Emotion]

Bluelight has restored our permissions to post attachments. However, since all images posted in CD are required to be hidden using NSFW tags, the feature can not be used here because there is no way to put an attachment behind NSFW tags..FYI this feature can be found under the Go Advanced posting option. There is a [Manage Attachments] button at the bottom of the page..

Yeah I've though about it and there's no way I'm risking imgur or photobucket. Shame, really.

 

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G'struck Review
The strain is cross between G_dbud and Thunderstruck.

Let's start with the look of these gals. They are pale to light green and sparkly. I mean, many buds have trichome coverage but this stuff has clear trichomes that actually sparkle when the light hits them; like diamonds, maaaan. It's been a long time since I've seen anything like that.

Texturally, they were spongy w/ a little give when squeezed. Moisture content was as I like it; not ultra-fresh but not dry enough to ignite w/ low heat in the vaporizer. Manicure was clean and one can tell care was given to these ladies.

The smell and taste are very complex. I can't even really describe them except to say that I smell some leather, some diesel fuel, and a bit of "walk-in humidor tobacco"-type smell. The taste seems to change with each toke. Sometimes it's spicy. Other times earthy. Once in a while a hint of sweet creeps in. The taste has multiple notes and while I can't say I love the taste, I will say I can appreciate its complexity.

The buzz really shines. This stuff has "daydream" written all over it. It's the sort of buzz that encourages me to ride my bike into a parked car because I'm staring at a construction site --> thinking of the show modern marvels --> the construction site becoming a towering spire instead of a new train station --> visualizing the spire rising into the sky --> visualizing fireworks in the night sky over imaginary spire --> "Thump" while hitting parked car.

This stuff is also the bomb for pain. It's helped clear some lower back pain I've had for over 6 months now w/out couch lock or munchies. Overall, the GS should stand for Great Stuff b/c that's exactly what it is!

8/10

 

[Artificial Emotion]

^ have you ever tried Blueberry for your back pain i.e the original version?

I've decided I'm going to buy myself a pack of Satori seeds. It's a sativa leaning strain but virtually everyone who grows it and smokes it says that despite this it actually helps with anxiety rather than causing it but is also a good daytime smoke and not too much of a cerebral buzz/soaring high that distracts. With the cost being about half that of equivalent quality strains in regular format I just can't resist.

 

[|>R()|)!G/-\|_]

^ have you ever tried Blueberry for your back pain i.e the original version?

I've had what I believe was Shorts' B'berry but that was before I injured my back. It was really tasty stuff though.

Grape Ape x Great White

Talk about value! This Grape Ape x Great White was a steal. Between the taste, effects, amount, and cost I couldn't be happier.

The main thing to write home about is the taste of this stuff. It is unique and out of this world. It doesn't even taste like it could come from cannabis. It certainly has sweet, fruity, candy overtones. I'd specifically liken it to a watermelon jolly rancher. It also has some slight, woodsy-spicy-pine sol notes in the finish. Im serious, the taste alone warrants giving this a try if ever given the opportunity. Its strong, fruity, sweet smell matches its taste well.

These nuggets are small, dense, and fairly tight with a little give. I wouldn't say it has great bag appeal because the trichome coverage is mild to moderate. These don't glisten and sparkle like some others and there are no red, orange, or purple hairs to grab one's attention. However, do not be fooled. The looks say nothing about the potency and effects.

This is indica all day long. Three vapor hits = a trip to a slow, spacy place that makes me feel like a bit of a ditz. Really, this stuff makes me feel kind of dumb. I easily overlook details, become distracted, and lose my train of thought. It's probably not ideal for studying or a wake and bake when stuff needs to be done but for chillaxin' it's pretty prime.

Also, do not expect to be hit with effects immediately. It takes a while for things to fully unfold. At first, I found myself disappointed thinking "This shit really isn't that great" until 15 minutes later I was hungry as shit and stuck on the couch while my ears did a dance to my buddy's guitar playing. From there, it ws about 2 hours of red eyes, dry mouth, some munchies, and chillin'.

So although not a very uplifting or cerebral strain, Grape Ape x Great White is good for relaxation, physical tension,pain and tastes great.

 

[Artificial Emotion]

^ nice review mate.

I am torn between buying two blueberry x white widow strains. One called blue widow and the other called blue venom. Decisions decisions!

 

[|>R()|)!G/-\|_]

^ nice review mate.

I am torn between buying two blueberry x white widow strains. One called blue widow and the other called blue venom. Decisions decisions!

If they are both berry/widow crosses, how do they differ? (Obviously, different parents/phenos, etc..) but do you know anything of their effects or tastes?

 

[Artificial Emotion]

^ well you can have two strains that come from the same lineage but if the breeding has been different then they will be completely different. The phenotypes will show different traits from each parent but apart from that it all depends on what traits the breeder has bred into the strain. Some could be from the parent's parents and so on.

I know dinafem blue widow is amazing. I grew it outdoors and the vigor was phenominal, although it suffered from mould (to be expected growing an indoor strain outdoors). The colours are very attractive. I don't know much about the G13 Blue Venom to be honest.

edit: I bit the bullet and just went for the tried and tested Blue Widow in the end. I ended up getting one GHS Super Lemon Haze (a really good strain I must admit), one fem Critical Jack auto and one White Widow fem which I'll be giving away to someone who wants it since I already am growing Black Widow, the real original White Widow.

I am also being given for free a pack of Sweet Afgan Delicious S1s, Psiodelica and Black Jack for a competition grow. I can't believe they're just giving it to me for free in return for a diary! Especially since those strains are fucking awesome.

The Sweet Afgan Delicious S1 is an Afghanistan x Black Domina cross, selfed to produce feminized seed, the Black Jack is a Jack Herer x Black Domina cross (I can't wait to get a Jack Herer pheno!!) and the psiodelica is USA x Nepal strain. Each pack contains three feminized seeds so it should be a bit less hassle. I think I'll grow them all under a 1kW HPS.

 

[thizzmeout]

I'd like to know if anybody has some experience with Jupiter OG. I have heard a few good things about it, but still curious.
Sorry if it's already in this thread but there are waaay too many posts to read each one.
Thanks for your help

 

[GordanMilky]

Has anyone ever thrown out a particular strain? I bought a quarter and have about a gram left. The first 10 minutes after vaporizing i feel great, but then i feel awful after. Im assuming its just the strain and not me needing a break.

 

[Artificial Emotion]

This is the strain, Flo, bred by a guy called DJ Shorts.

NSFW:

It's so expensive but is of the best genetics you can buy, rather than most of the dutch polyhybrids around. I'm going to buy that, as well as Mandala Satori and Emerald Triangle Royal Purple Kush. I'll be spending a fuck load of money but should get keeper clones that I keep for the rest of my life and even use to breed new strains (I'll be on the look out for decent males too).

Edit:

So I spent my Inland Revenue money lol. I got one feminized G13 Labs Blue Venom seed (Blueberry x White Widow), one feminized Greenhouse Seeds Super Lemon Haze (don't laugh, I think it's a really good strain!), 10 regular Dutch Passion Voodoo seeds (a Thai strain that's been acclimatized to northern europe, meaning I'll grow it indoors and search for a fast flowering phenotype which I'll grow outdoors next outdoor growing season and my favourite, the highlight of my seed purchase, Mandala 'Satori' (see this extract quote). This strain gets amazing reviews and is a really fucking excellent strain, despite the low cost for 10 seeds. I can't wait to grow this one out, and it'll be used for my breeding projects for sure.

Mandala Seeds Satori is an exceptionally easy to grow sativa. We refined this strain genetically in 2006 to produce an even more reliable and powerful cross that will delight your connoisseur heart. Satori has shown impressive hardiness against spider mites and other pests, and she possesses a good measure of mould resistance. Her slim appearance makes it possible to plant in narrow rows, or in SOG, to maximize her typical record yields even more. The firm side shoots provide highest quality cuttings. As with all our sativas she is heat resistant - an added bonus for small indoor environments and hot summer grows. Her cannabis seeds produce mainly sweet & fruity-spicy aroma is a real treat for the senses. Satori grows a long head bud with chunky flowers and does not require much feeding on soil, you can almost do without feeding provided you use quality soil and sufficient pot size (approx. 2 gallon pots for adult plants under 250-600W lamps). Keep EC levels low in hydroponics for best results. All Mandala strains are extremely efficient in nutrient uptake due to their hybrid vigor and require only low EC levels/feeding to develop huge leaf, stem and bud structure. Satori is a high yielding, powerful plant with an exceptional sativa high. The heavy buds are easy to manicure, and from the resinous bud leaves you can produce finest grade hash, comparable in quality to the famous Nepalese “temple balls”.