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Curing depression with Ecstasy?

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Hey all,

I've never done MDMA before but recently got my hands on an extremely high-quality pill (tested and all, about 130mg of MDMA). I have heard of its use as a therapeutic substance. Of course, I'm not talking about abusing. I have just been in a "rut" for a year now and life seems bleak and hopeless, I have no motivation, etc. I think it's more related to my situation and drug abuse than clinical depression. I would take LSD for introspection but none is available and I have seen better results in people using MDMA. Can anyone give me tips on a good setting to use in for this purpose? Does anyone have experience with MDMA helping them? I was considering taking half the pill and then the other half later on to prevent myself from getting overwhelmingly high... or should I avoid it? Thanks so much :D
 
The first question is about your age. How old are you. My second question is about the rut. What particularly about your current life makes you feel you are in a rut.
I'm asking questions like this because mdma is good at helping you deal with trauma, and in that case will help you find a way out of a depression that could have been brought on by trauma, but if you are pathologically depressed it's not going to help you much, and might easily make things worse.
 
MDMA can help you come to term with things in your life, so it could be a possibly cure for your depression.

Remember though, MDMA is a chemical, and you cannot roll all the time (please, take at least a 1 month break in between rolls, its very important) so don't let it get out of hand.

And I would drop the whole pill at once :)
 
Taking MDMA should be a wonderful, much needed relief for a night, and you might feel better for a little while because of how much fun you had. However, it's not going to magically make you not depressed in the long term. Neurotransmitter depletion and potential neurotoxicity is doubtfully going to improve your state of mind in the long term.

With acid... it's the same thing in my experience. There is a wonderful afterglow that lasts a little while before I become FUCKED again. But before I know it, I'm back to my old self.

Not only this but if you are depressed there is certainly potential for abuse. I was only meaning to try it out, and ended up taking MDMA 30 or so times before I came to my senses. Throughout this extended period, I was much happier on a day-to-day basis, but now that I have stopped using it, I am more miserable than I have ever been in my life.

I'd still say it's worth a try, it's sometimes great to snap yourself out of a bad mindstate with a trip. I wouldn't expect a cure though and I wouldn't make it a regular thing at all.
 
freehugs said:
MDMA can help you come to term with things in your life, so it could be a possibly cure for your depression.

Remember though, MDMA is a chemical, and you cannot roll all the time (please, take at least a 1 month break in between rolls, its very important) so don't let it get out of hand.

And I would drop the whole pill at once :)
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+1, it deffinitley helped me come to terms with alot of things that had been bugging me.
130mg is alot for someone who's never done MDMA before though, i think 90-100mg's should be more than enough but its up to you. and as far as when/where to do it- if any of ur friends roll then i'd suggest doing it with them in a good environment. or at a rave...
 
To be honest the only way to "cure" depression from MDMA use would be to use it very controlled, like 3-4times a year... cause with me I roll whenever and it always make me depressed until I spark a joint lol.
 
Nah fuck that shit take all 130mgs, the first time I rolled I took 200mgs, most I've ever gotten out of MDMA.
 
Don't roll if you're depressed, it will temporarily make it better but in the long run make it worse. Depression is already a good sign that you have a chemical imbalance, taking e would just make it worse. Talk to a shrink, maybe get on an ssri for a while.

People talk shit on antidepressants but they really do help, just don't stay on them long term if you can help it.
 
If you're legitimately depressed, like you've been diagnosed with depression - no this won't help at all. If there's something that's depressing you, then yes this may help you realize what you're doing wrong and might even fix it.
 
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If you're legitimately depressed, like you've been diagnosed with depression - no this won't help at all. If there's something that's depressing you, then yes this may help you realize what you're doing wrong and might even fix it.
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Agree completely. A shift in perspective might help in changing your outlook on life. Its important to remember what you feel on MDMA is the polar opposite of depression and that it is not 'normal' to feel like you're rolling 100% of the time. If, however, you can think about why you aren't feeling depressed and connect the dots in a sense, you've done positive work. Just don't forget your experience or take it lightly because the drug is a tool, change can only occur with your personal hard work.

If you are severely depressed, dont take MDMA. The comedown would just not be good at all.
 
Using a drug to overcome anything in particular just doesn't work, in my experience.

For example, if you try using LSD to become enlightened, you are just setting yourself up for failure. You can't focus on that idea, instead you have to let it fall into place. In this case, I feel you should use Mdma to have a fun night out with friends, but not to overcome depression. If you use it for the idea of overcoming depression, you are just gonna be disappointed.

Use it for the sole purpose of having fun, period. Anything more than that is just asking for too much from a chemical. It's up to you to make that happen, not the chemical.
 
"I think it's more related to my situation and drug abuse than clinical depression."
If you think your current depression is caused by your current drug abuse, the absolute last thing you should do is take another drug with the hopes of pulling out of depression. Thats some ass backwards way of thinking and it doesnt take a genius to see why this could easily lead to some really nasty places. Mdma is an excellent drug and in the right setting I'm sure it could help somebody to rethink there life and work themselves out of depression... From what you said it sounds like drugs already played a part in bringing you into your current depression, taking a drug that causes depression after the initial effects wear off is not very rational
 
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I'm not going to recommend taking it to "cure" your depression nor am I going to say it won't help. But I will tell you my experience.

My whole life for as long as I can remember I have been a sad person. I have always felt hopeless and lost in the world and have contemplated suicide on multiple occasions. I never thought I was even going to make it through high school without shooting myself. I don't know if it was my religion (Mormon) or the thought that things would get better that kept me from ending it but I held on into college. I went to my first rave when I was 19 and took x for my first time that night. It was the most magical experience of my life. I had never felt such love and happiness before in my life. It was like seeing sunlight for the first time.

After that I started exercising and being more social. I stopped letting life get me down and I made the most of it. I also didn't start abusing the drug. I would only take it every one to two months. I don't know if it was a chemical imbalance or just not feeling that level of love before but it turned my life around. Every once in a while I feel the sort of deep dark sadness that I had felt every day prior to that experience but now I can deal with it. I seriously think that it saved my life and I think that it should be medicinalized and studied to be used as an anti depressant. But I also think no two people are the same and it affects everyone differently.

I hope that made sense
 
I found MDMA to be helpful(as most people do) with expression, introspection and personal awareness..and i think it CAN in certain situations be a great tool for communication and empathy etc..but the idea of thinking of it as a "cure" seems slightly askew. I cant say that your wrong in thinking it might be a positive experience..but if your looking to use in a way that would be helpful and not harmful i dont think going to a "rave" or a huge party would be the right setting.and the more of that crap you do the worse off your going to be. I can understand where your coming from and i've found it helpful at times..but there's a fine line between wanting to just escape and "get high" and really using something in a way thats helpful.
 
MDMA has changed my day to day sober disposition and view on life for the better, it is capable of great power- this is after, what it was used for long before fun nights and raves. It's been in the news recently for showing promise in treating PTSD in soldiers, and it's constantly being praised by therapists for it's unique abilities.

If you abuse it and get crappy contaminated stuff all the time, that all changes...

That said, OP I've seen a few of your posts in the heroin message board, and you seem to have had experience with some drugs that are known for getting easily out of control and not being beneficial. If you have a tendency to abuse drugs or are using them as an escape, then you'll likely do just that with MDMA. The main ingredient in any drug you try is always you.

If you are genuinely hoping to change yourself for the better with MDMA, I'd recommend doing it every 90 days (4x a year) with people you love who know you are on MDMA. I wouldn't do it in a rave or night club around strangers if you are trying to benefit from it in a deep way- raves and pounding music are extremely fun on MDMA, but it's not an environment that allows you to focus on your own issues and people you care about the most- you'll be distracted by attractive strangers and people giving light shows.

MDMA has brought me closer to my family, it has made my every day experience brighter and more appreciative. It directly helped me get out of a destructive multi-year relationship, and in to an extremely happy one with my (now) fiance. It was also my first drug, and I don't have a tendency to go overboard with substances.
 
I myself have had a problem with friendliness/ anxiety/ friendships / being around lots of people.

1st rave i went to i drunk loads of alcohol, no drugs (hadnt done any before either) and barely talked to anyone , was absolutely destroyed/tired and got a cold on the hangover lol. FAIL

2nd rave i did 1 and a half ecstasy tablets
I had been drinking so it was actually my weakest of 'rolls' but it made me open up a bit that night and really enjoy myself, however tuesday was a bit sad of a day ill admit.

If you have issues that you can sort out without chemicals then ecstasy wont cure your depression from that, but in my case i just needed a little push or a shove out there, to show that life is enjoyable and to not be so anxious and awkward lol. Just have fun

if you wish to only seek positive effects from mdma use, keep it to once a month , (at 1 dose) and you shouldnt see too many if any negatives. e.g up to 150mg dose a month

So, in conclusion Yes and No.
 
I've seen some real casualties over the years who've taken drugs when they're not mentally or emotionally stable. I don't think MDMA will help your depression.
 
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