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Jogging on psychedelic drugs

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I'm wondering if strenuous exercise under the influence of psychedelics is healthy/unhealthy? Last night I had accidentally ingested ~5mgs 2c-b and went on a jog about an hour later. I noticed my heart felt like there was a lot of outward pressure for the first 10-15 minutes which was uncomfortable, the rest of the run was absolutely fine though. Ended up running for about 85 minutes, with the music on my ears, the moon rising and the stars clear as day it made for a very pleasant evening.

The only thing that worries me about this is possible cardio side effects? Can anyone fill me in as to the safety of this kind of behavior?

EDIT: Also just for the record ~5mgs 2c-b was very much altering, not very visual aside from the fleeting closed eye flower patterns, certainly uplifting and thought provoking. Ive wondered recently about the efficiency of 2c-b as an antidepressant in low, low doses. ~5mgs would most certainly go well with my morning coffee and make a day at a monotonous job just a bit less depressive, IMO.
 
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Just a few days ago I strenuously skateboarded for 90+ mins on a combination of 1.7mg 25d-nbome and roughly 115mg 6-apb.

I was sweating buckets, but no more than usual, and my heart rate felt relatively normal for such circumstances.

Most fun I have had in my entire life...
 
The only thing that worries me about this is possible cardio side effects? Can anyone fill me in as to the safety of this kind of behavior?
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People go raving & dancing for hours on end on psychedelics, I can't see why jogging or anything would be especially different from that.
 
i had a mushroom experience in the day by myself where i just started jogging in my rope sandals and it was amazing. felt like springs in my calfs propelling me forwards, kinda kangeroo-perpetual-momentum-transferish.

i used to always feel like working out at the end of my acid trips lol. for a summer or so, every acid trip and my friends had, around 7-8 hours in i would just jump up out of the blue after staring off and smoking pot for hours, and be like 'im ready to hit the gym!'. lol, always out of place and awkward, but it really was fun to just get my blood pumping. and something about the psychedlic trance effect made it really easy to push my limits with repetitions etc.

i had what i believe was an ocular migraine, a distortion in my vision on one side which pulsed and i could feel in my brain. creepy and hard to describe, you can read about em if you're interested. but this happend while working out after smoking a black and mild emptied and filled with calea zacatechichi, not while tripping, but around this time. during my 'get fucked up and work out at a public gym' phase. lol

there's my 2 cents. but really, jogging, as long as you're not really pushing yourself, i'd image would be fairly safe. unless the chemical as particularly stimulating in which case maybe blood-pressure or something could be an issue.
 
5mgs 2C-B should be OK, even as a once-a-week type of thing. Be aware that using it frequently may improve your day-to-day life, but it will dull out your occasional trips with the material.

If you have a family history of cardiovascular issues, or don't normally work out, I'd suggest getting a running buddy for these types of endeavors, just in case of mild incidents.

Weed + exercise is a very mixed bag; some people can do it fine while others instantly pass out from lack of sugar or some other strange whitey-out symptom.
 
Many phenethylamines put quite a strain on the heart themself. This applies particularly to psychedelic amphetamines (working out on amphetamines can be dangerous). So in the case of phens, you should monitor your heart rate carefully. Some tryptamines also raise your heart rate, but not the same way phens do. I guess if you don't overdo it and really follow how your heart rate feels, it could be OK.

Running on 4-subbed tryptamines should be OK, although in the case of e.g. 4-AcO-DMT, it's just too sedating (at least for me) to run. Maybe 4-HO-MET would be better suited for that.
 
I'd have thought the running would have been easier? Thats normally my experience when running on psychedelics, but as a poster said above, phenethylamines and in particular, psychedelic amphetamines can stress your cardiovascular system a bit, so one should exercise caution when exercising on one of these chemicals.

That said, I've done exercise on MPA a lot and haven't experienced much in the way of cardiovascular issues (and MPA is a strong physical stimulant).
 
Feste said:
People go raving & dancing for hours on end on psychedelics, I can't see why jogging or anything would be especially different from that.
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This, I've taken large doses of 2c-i and 2c-e at raves and danced for over an hour without a break. Wasn't the greatest idea, but didn't seem to have a bad effect.
 
^ I've danced for 8 hours with only a few minutes of break (plenty of water to stay hydrated of course) on 2C-E before.

It definitely is worth monitoring your heart rate though on phenethylamines, and some of the stimulating tryptamines like aMT - as they do raise your heart rate and for some people this combined with the added boost from exercise could be particularly dangerous. I wouldn't recommend anything all that strenuous but a short jog should be fine as long as you're careful.
 
I didn't feel as if my heart rate were raised all that much more than a run might normally be. It was a negligible dose and I feel like I would have been considerably less high had I not jogged, as if the jogging potentiated it. I forgot to mention I also smoked weed before the jog and felt like at one point my heart rate was more relaxed/comfortable once the weed had worn off.. I didn't experience any negative side effects, slept like a rock.. Won't be something I do with any regularity.
 
I do this all the time with a variety of compounds. It's fantastic. There are a few stipulations IMO:

1) you need to already be in shape. If you jog enough and you're doing distance running, you usually hit a meditative state or get lost in your mind. The psychs play into this perfectly.

2) low doses, for two reasons. One is that cars kill and you'll probably be crossing a public road at some point. The other factor is that high doses tend to play with hydration levels and heart rate, which isn't very conducive to jogging.

For reference, my jogging experiences are:

4-AcO-DMT -6-9mg
2C-I -10mg
2C-B - 15mg
2C-C - 30mg
5-MeO-MiPT -4mg
4-HO-MET - 10mg
DOC - 0.75mg
2C-T-2 - 10mg (experienced cramping with this one)

Dose low and you might be surprised. Sometimes you have these beautiful zen moments out there in nature. Don't wear headphones. Immerse yourself in the experience. It can be beautiful.
 
lol ^ this guys jogged in more states of altered consciousness than most people are aware of the existence of.

ha, talk about an expert in the topic of interest :)
 
Dude fucking hells yeah bro. Awesome.

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I do this all the time with a variety of compounds. It's fantastic. There are a few stipulations IMO:

1) you need to already be in shape. If you jog enough and you're doing distance running, you usually hit a meditative state or get lost in your mind. The psychs play into this perfectly.

2) low doses, for two reasons. One is that cars kill and you'll probably be crossing a public road at some point. The other factor is that high doses tend to play with hydration levels and heart rate, which isn't very conducive to jogging.

For reference, my jogging experiences are:

4-AcO-DMT -6-9mg
2C-I -10mg
2C-B - 15mg
2C-C - 30mg
5-MeO-MiPT -4mg
4-HO-MET - 10mg
DOC - 0.75mg
2C-T-2 - 10mg (experienced cramping with this one)

Dose low and you might be surprised. Sometimes you have these beautiful zen moments out there in nature. Don't wear headphones. Immerse yourself in the experience. It can be beautiful.
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I've done some jogging while on MDMA, it's weird I feel like I actually am better at it too, makes my breathing work better or something.
 
Yeah MDMA does good things for fear and anxiety which has miraculous effects on things like breathing.

I don't know about jogging since it's not my exercise of choice but I love swimming on psychedelics... though I wouldn't go for a distance into the sea - especially not the ice cold sea around here lol - and risk currents or something. Also I would not risk potentially dangerous situations because I have already experienced once that I briefly forgot how to swim while on acid. I was flopping around, really silly. Fortunately in a public pool, so that some fat lifeguard chick could look at me as if she saw water burning.

I absolutely love doing pencak silat while tripping which is a form of martial arts. Like many other forms of martial arts it involves doing energy work. Which is not necessarily esoteric but rather to make rounding flowing movements that effectively transform kinesthetics. I really feel centered and meditative like a monk when I practice that. I haven't been doing it for very long but there are gorgeous connections between the psychedelic state, meditation and a number of skills that have often evolved from mystic schools.

JBrandon respect for the combination of appropriately dosed psychedelics with physical work and extra respect for considering responsible measures of the safety of yourself and others around you! <3
 
I actually just came back to say that those doses I listed are for a person with a slight tolerance (think every 2 weeks like clockwork). If you have no tolerance going, I'd recommend you go at your personal lowest threshold dose.

I had a fantastic workout last night with 4-AcO-DMT at 6mg, minimal tolerance. I took it about 15 minutes before my run so that I would come-up during the jog. I find this works better than leaving for the run once in an altered state. I also recommend that you run at home on a treadmill your first time to make sure this agrees with you.

When you've been running for a while, you eventually develop a pace that you can lock into and basically go all day. That's where you want to already be when the drug begins kicking in. When I run in this state, my mind enters a meditative zone and "blanks out". I usually prefer to go without music when I run outside, but last night I was on a treadmill, so I used headphones. I became locked into the music and my pace, it was beautiful, refreshing, and I could have gone for hours if I didn't have other obligations that necessitated eventually snapping out of it.

Don't push your pacing, no matter how good you feel. Keep it relaxed. With higher doses of 4-AcO and with the phen & amp psychedelics, I have experienced weird temperature fluctuations after running if I push the pace too much. Sometimes you just get in the zone!
 
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Thanks for the very useful reply JBrandon, that's a great suggestion for anyone looking to try it. I have a bunch of 4-AcO-DMT myself still and I might give it a go in a few weeks once my tolerance is fully baseline (just for the sake of not taking psychedelics so often, rather than worrying about a few mg difference in dose - since I tripped yesterday) - have you had any problems with anxiety or socialising at these low doses? I often find myself unnerved by other people when I go out and about on 4-AcO-DMT, but I haven't explored such low doses with it yet, my lowest being 20mg if I remember right. :)
 
I've had anxiety as low as 4mg. However, it's been completely manageable as long as I stayed under 10-12mg. Once I cross that line, it's hit or miss whether I can venture into public or not.

I've never had a problem while running, but it's an infrequent activity - I'm not tripping while jogging once a week or anything, so I'm sure it's more than possible to have a panic episode, especially since your heart rate will already be up.

I actually prefer low-dose 4-AcO recreationally than I do the higher doses. If I venture up too high my thought process becomes manic and useless. At 6-9mg, I often hit a sweet spot where I am just altered enough to feel that I "see things clearly", but in a realistic way - I.e. analyzing my life and behavior, rather than delirious psycho-philosophical-concepts.
 
That sounds interesting, I'll definitely have to give lower doses a shot then. I do tend to find my thought processes to be manic and hard to remember - but a lot of it gets stored in my memory nonetheless, and then during the comedown when I'm clear-headed I usually think it through.

Do you have experience with 2C-E, and if so do you think it'd work well for jogging? I noticed you mentioned 2C-I, 2C-B and 2C-C in your list, but not 2C-E. :)
 
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