STRIKE - Scab bastards

[bogman]

looks like the goverment is doing the divide n conquer.we have it over here where things are fcuked up but the private sector are fighting with the semi state.

 

[Marmalade]

utter garbage

YOU:

 

[TheSpade]

There's a good few call centre jobs I could get round here direct with the companies, I know lots of people that have recently. That's all anycunt does round here is work in a fucking call centre. I know I could pass the interviews no bother & I've worked in call centres for ages (too fucking long!) so I know how to do the job, I wouldn't need call handling training etc. Quite a few are through agencies but you don't work for the agency, you just get the job through them & then you are a proper employee of the company the same as everyone else. I got my old job at HSBC through an agency but once I'd passed the interview I was just a standard HSBC employee, I had nothing more to do with the agency.

Practically all of them would involve some sort of sales though, which I can't fucking stand.

So they use agencies to employ people then once you get the job they make you a proper employee? Doesn't make much sense. Why even have an agency in the first place doing the hiring. There's a few call centes round here and they all use agencies, you work AT the company full time but work FOR the agency. It's the agency that pays your wages and is your employer. You always work at the same place and could potentially do so for the rest of your life.

 

[The RZA]

It's illegal for the police to strike.

 

[knock]

So they use agencies to employ people then once you get the job they make you a proper employee? Doesn't make much sense. Why even have an agency in the first place doing the hiring. There's a few call centes round here and they all use agencies, you work AT the company full time but work FOR the agency. It's the agency that pays your wages and is your employer. You always work at the same place and could potentially do so for the rest of your life.

Many companies outsource their recruitment for permanent staff to agencies. It probably makes sense because it means they don't have to worry about placing ads, sifting through thousands of shit CVs etc. Actually the real reason is that managers follow the buzzword of the day, which has been outsourcing. "Oh I read that outsourcing could save us thousands and these other companies are doing it plus I have Reed / Office Angels on the phone with this great deal. Let's do that, I'm a great fucking manager." Things don't have to make sense in the corporate world, they just have to sound like they might make sense and be trendy. Plus they have someone outside the company that they can blame when they end up with Spade manning the phone

But yes, what you're saying is true, companies are also completely avoiding employing people by using agencies.

 

[parttime crackhead]

Spade I don't know why, all I'm saying is that I was hired through an agency but was never an employee of that agency & that there are many similar jobs round here. Call centre work is a piece of piss to find here & it's not usually through some shitey agency.

 

[scrooloose]

What is call centre work exactly?I've heard of it but what do you actually do? Does it mean you have to be polite to people LOL

 

[felix]

So they use agencies to employ people then once you get the job they make you a proper employee? Doesn't make much sense. Why even have an agency in the first place doing the hiring. There's a few call centes round here and they all use agencies, you work AT the company full time but work FOR the agency. It's the agency that pays your wages and is your employer. You always work at the same place and could potentially do so for the rest of your life.

spade. have you never heard of a "recruitment agency"? what you appear to be describing is an "employment agency" (who probably also do their own recruitment, but not necessarily.)

not trying to be funny, just surprised that you don't get that...?

 

[Jabberwocky]

my boyfs experience suggests that til you've worked for a specific agency and got decent feedback, they will offer you the shittest jobs. in the year he worked in bristol he was not even offered permanent posts, as they learned he was good he was getting the higher paid ones. when he arrived in leeds, even going to agencies he had good feedback for in bristol, he was told point blank 'we have nothing but call center work.' he took a large risk by refusing call centre work and ended up in a 'halfway house' role, employed directly not via the agency. now off the back of the good feedback from that, he is totally out of call center work and has a far better paying role, again employed directly. having less than a month unemployed in the past 2 years, and all that work being for known UK employers probably helps too.

so if they tell you they only have call center work, what they mean is that as they don't know you and the other roles are so sought after, they will not risk their reputation by putting you forward for them.

so again, its all about sticking with things. the more you do for them, the more they do for you.

also- employing you by an agency can cost more- for every hour you get paid, they get paid. after you've initially been placed by the agency, the employer would save money by employing you directly. i think they do it this way so they can sack you on the spot if they feel like it.

 

[JB]

So they use agencies to employ people then once you get the job they make you a proper employee? Doesn't make much sense. Why even have an agency in the first place doing the hiring.

They're called recruitment agencies spade. They specialise in this sort of thing so your company doesn't have to. They are paid a fee for doing all the initial recruitment work. It's not a radical idea. I have a radical idea for you though, how about you shut the fuck up about this shit in my strike thread. HA HA 8(

 

[B9]

It's probably less stressful to have adopted the hakuna matata philosophy toward pension, don't buy into it - I didn't and expect to cheerfully end my days in the modern version of the workhouse - I pity all the people who paid into pensions who will be there with me so bitter will the gruel they eat there taste, whilst mine will taste like gruel.
Ah yeah the economy & that - we could go to war that would solve the unemployment crisis.

 

[Ismene]

The retirement age is going to be 68 before I even get to retire. What a joke. Mind you £140 a week would keep me in mimosa rootbark I suppose.

 

[TheSpade]

my boyfs experience suggests that til you've worked for a specific agency and got decent feedback, they will offer you the shittest jobs. in the year he worked in bristol he was not even offered permanent posts, as they learned he was good he was getting the higher paid ones. when he arrived in leeds, even going to agencies he had good feedback for in bristol, he was told point blank 'we have nothing but call center work.' he took a large risk by refusing call centre work and ended up in a 'halfway house' role, employed directly not via the agency. now off the back of the good feedback from that, he is totally out of call center work and has a far better paying role, again employed directly. having less than a month unemployed in the past 2 years, and all that work being for known UK employers probably helps too.

so if they tell you they only have call center work, what they mean is that as they don't know you and the other roles are so sought after, they will not risk their reputation by putting you forward for them.

so again, its all about sticking with things. the more you do for them, the more they do for you.

also- employing you by an agency can cost more- for every hour you get paid, they get paid. after you've initially been placed by the agency, the employer would save money by employing you directly. i think they do it this way so they can sack you on the spot if they feel like it.

None of this applies to me. The job I applied for was with this specific company which I work for just they only hire through this agency. There are no other opportunities, regardless of how long and hard you work, to get a 'better' or different job. Your boyfriends was signed up to some sort of different agency from mines. The agency I work for provides the whole workforce (bar anyone who's been there for a few years) for this nationwide company. The only opportunity that could ever, possible, come up is with a proper contract with the company but I've heard from people who have been working there for 5 years, all as agency staff, that the opportunity ahs never come up so far. So no it's not about sticking things out and me doing things for them and they'll do things for me. You are wrong.

Employing by an agency blatantly doesn't cost more otherwise they wouldn't do it. In my case the company pays the agency the full wage a proper employee would get and the agency then pay us a cut of that and keep the profit. The plus side for the company is that they don't have to pay us for sick days, give us any benefits, a pension etc. It's a cost saving excercise for the company and the agency makes a tidy profit.

 

[parttime crackhead]

Sack it then, get another job. Sounds rank. You've now got at least a bit of call centre experience, surely you can get something that isn't through what appears to be a glorified temp agency?

Saying that, I don't know how many call centres are around your area. There's literally fucking dozens (of very large ones) round here. If I could deal with sales I could get another job within a matter of weeks & probably earn more money by the time I hit bonuses & shit but fuck that, just speaking to cunts is enough of a mission without having to try & make them buy things as well.

 

[YellowPolkaDotHalo]

Buy and sell stuff. Ive been my own boss for 15 years and made a good wage. With a bit of outlay you can make a profit. Invest £20 in something
and see if you can see a £20 profit. * look at Alan Sugar *

 

[StoneHappyMonday]

Buy and sell stuff. Ive been my own boss for 15 years and made a good wage. With a bit of outlay you can make a profit. Invest £20 in something
and see if you can see a £20 profit. * look at Alan Sugar *

We're talking drugs right?

:D

 

[brimz]

Buy and sell stuff. Ive been my own boss for 15 years and made a good wage. With a bit of outlay you can make a profit. Invest £20 in something
and see if you can see a £20 profit. * look at Alan Sugar *

What should i be investing in ?

 

[parttime crackhead]

Buy and sell stuff. Ive been my own boss for 15 years and made a good wage. With a bit of outlay you can make a profit. Invest £20 in something
and see if you can see a £20 profit. * look at Alan Sugar *

We're talking drugs right?

:D

Haha. That's what I was thinking. I used to be my own boss "buying & selling stuff". I wouldn't recommend it.

 

[kappadaftie]

One day little Eric decided that he wanted some money so he asked all his friends where he should get some,

"Oh, you'll have to get your ass fucked!" they all exclaimed,
"It's not so bad though, just make sure you go to the Nice Man, he'll treat your ass nicer than the Pig, the Pig is really mean and nasty"

So little Eric went off to see the Nice Man about getting his ass fucked in return for some money.

"Yes of course I'd like to fuck your ass little Eric" chuckled the Nice Man
"and in return I'll give you some money and I'll look after you when you're old and your asshole is falling to pieces because I've fucking it so much. All I ask in return is that you give me a few of your pennies to give to some of the other little boys who want money but don't want to get their ass fucked"

So the Nice Man started fucking little Eric's little ass and to be honest, after a while, Eric didn't mind it at all.

However, as time passed, the Nice Man was still fucking away at Eric's little ass, but he wasn't giving him or the other little boys some of the things he had promised. So all the little boys plotted in their bedroom to confront the Nice Man about this the next day.

The next morning all the little boys roared at the Nice Man to treat them better and to give their little asses what they deserved. But the Nice Man just chuckled, he had been here before, he knew he could manage a couple of days without their little asses to play with and then they would come back to the Nice Man and things would settle down.

And they did, and the seasons once again passed, and little Eric and the other little boys had their asses fucked and the anger they had once felt died away enough for them to settle down and get on with their bending over.

But soon, Eric was just so fed up. He had been getting his ass fucked for years now, he felt like he was worth more, so one day he decided to do the unthinkable, he was going to see if the Pig would fuck his ass instead!

"oh, now now little Eric, what makes you so ashamed to come to the Pig?" asked the slimy monster,

"the other little boys told me that you don't care about us, you just want to fuck our asses, all you care about is tight little asses" sobbed little Eric

"well that's right little Eric, but in return I'll give you more money. That's why your here isn't it little Eric? Because you want money, you don't want to be one of the boys who just sit watching little boys get fucked all day and then take some of their pennies even though they don't let their own asses be fucked?" said the Pig softly.

So the Pig started fucking little Eric in the ass and Eric soon realised that it was no different from the Nice Man fucking him in the ass, but more importantly little Eric was getting more money and he felt empowered, that finally he was getting what his little ass had been working so hard for.

But then 5pm came, then 6pm, then 7pm.....the Pig showed no sign of stopping! Little Eric cried in pain,

"please stop Mr Pig! My ass is sore, you've been fucking it for hours! The Nice Man never fucks it this long!" he screamed

"ha ha ha! Why do you think they call him the Nice Man, little Eric?" the Pig snarled in reply.


At the end of the long day the Pig gave little Eric his money after taking off a few pennies for the little boys who don't like their asses getting fucked and an extra few pennies to pay for the care that the Nice Man gives to his little boys once their asses are to old to fuck any more.

Little Eric went home feeling tired and sad. Was there no one who could give him what he wanted?!! All he asked is for his little ass to be treated with respect and paid a fair salary (with perks and a good pension).

The more little Eric spoke to the other little boys, the more he realised that everyone is getting fucked in the ass. But how could this be right?!! How is this fair?!! Why should these men be allowed to fuck them in the ass all day AND tell them what they can and can't have in return??

"It's your choice" said one quiet little boy, almost reading little Eric's mind.

Suddenly everything became clear to little Eric. He remembered that his ass hadn't always been getting fucked, he remembered a time when he didn't need the money. A tear came to his eye. Why couldn't it be like that again??!!

Little Eric knew what he had to do, he had to either make his little ass the most fuckable in the land, so no Nice Man or Pig could ever watch him walk away again, or he'd have to give up ass fucking for good and sit with the little boys who don't like their asses getting fucked.

A long time passed, and Eric wasn't so little anymore. Neither was his asshole. But he'd developed a reputation as one of he best little ass workers in the land, and everyone wanted to fuck his ass. Soon he was being fucked more gently, and even got more time off. Little Eric was so happy, they even said he could retire soon, which was lucky because little Eric was really tired after working so hard for so long.

Another few years came and went, and the time to retire finally came. But the money he had been working so hard for when the Pigs were fucking his little ass didn't seem to be worth very much, but little Eric didn't care, it was all over now, he could relax.

Then little Eric died.

:D



try not to take it too seriously, i was bored 8(


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[Ismene]

I have a radical idea for you though, how about you shut the fuck up about this shit in my strike thread. HA HA 8(

It might be your strike JB, but spades the one who'se going to end up paying for your pension. On the day of the strike perhaps you could ask UNISON to spare a thought for all those poor fuckers on £6.50 an hour giving money they can't afford to fund your retirement eh?