Smoking PST Extract

[SawRED]

So I've messed around a whole lot with Poppy Seed Tea but I've always been to lazy to do an alcohol extraction in order to get what I've heard is similar to opium. I've never been to tempted to do it because in the past I have read it is not smokable and you would just have to eat it anyways but there has always been a debate. More recently I have read some accounts of positive smoking experiences so I was just hoping we might come to a definitive answer to the matter. This leaves a few questions...

Is the extract you get the same as opium?

-I have heard it is not, but i don't entirely understand why. Normally opium seeps from the pods and i always thought the tea you make is just the residual opium washed off?

Is it smokable?

-Obviously I would tend to believe that if you smoked some effects would be felt but I want to know if it would be as efficient a way to use it as compared to eating it. I understand the bioavailability of opiates varies between ROA but I am talking in terms of in comparison to say opium or morphine. Ie. Does smoking it make it more ineffective or effective then if you were to smoke pure opium or etc.?

Can it be IV'd?

-I personally am not too curious and I am guessing the answer absolutely not due to the presence of less desirable alkaloids/fatty residue/other impurities...but for the sake of good and thorough information I figure it should be discussed.

 

[Tripman]

Iv'ing PST... No... Just... No.

If you happen to find yourself with PST extract in a syringe, I advise you in the interest of harm reduction to fling it to the far side of jupiter.

 

[nAON]

Yeah, don't IV it.

It may be smokeable, but you're gonna need to do an iso extraction on it. Just because there's no way you can easily evaporate that amount of water. Even then, the result is usually a very thick, sticky tar, that's very annoying to smoke.

It's similar to opium, but not exactly the same. Poppy tea is basically like doing a water extraction on some opium. Some of the opiods in it are gonna be in different ratios and amounts.

 

[effie]

Definitely don't IV it - injecting plant matter into your veins is asking for septicaemia..

Other than that, what nAON said

 

[cashcropkiller]

my friends experience with iso extraction for crude opium is the same however my dude just tried an iso extraction and got a very pasty, planty substance which he then re-extracted into water and let evaporate overnight and is currently almost dried. the result is a whiteish residue, not green which he is excited to try thinking maybe he was able to remove plant material. will post later after he calls back i look forward to his results maybe ill have to try it myself

he just texted me that upon scraping it appears more or a light brownish than white

 

[cashcropkiller]

he said it broke up into a powder which he then snorted about 4 minutes ago hoping to have a shitty crude morphine/codeine powder and sais he does feel some effects he has never been able to achieve from pst but it burned like a motherfucker (not sure why it was so much worse than before the 2nd extraction into water, only has experience with snorting ox and hydromorphone and those never burned like this). he's starting to kinda like it even tho it feels like his nose is burning in his opinion its way better than chugging the tea and is achieving a good result. oh and for the 2nd extraction into water he used cold water to try and absorb less unwanted stuff so he may try another extraction from the origional paste

 

[cashcropkiller]

at the end of the day my friend said it became extremely uncomfortable to snort this stuff and probably isnt worth it, maybe eating it in a capsule would be better. still he was interested in these results as he has not seen results like his posted on this site. maybe further extraction with paint thinner and xylene or something to precipitate out pure morphine would be the next step

 

[Oxide]

he said it broke up into a powder which he then snorted about 4 minutes ago hoping to have a shitty crude morphine/codeine powder and sais he does feel some effects he has never been able to achieve from pst but it burned like a motherfucker (not sure why it was so much worse than before the 2nd extraction into water, only has experience with snorting ox and hydromorphone and those never burned like this). he's starting to kinda like it even tho it feels like his nose is burning in his opinion its way better than chugging the tea and is achieving a good result. oh and for the 2nd extraction into water he used cold water to try and absorb less unwanted stuff so he may try another extraction from the origional paste

I have a couple of questions.

*How much poppy seed was used? I assume it was a pound, but that's only because you didn't mention anything about the amount of seed used.

*Why the fuck did you snort it? I would have left it in liquid form and taken it orally, or even put the powdery stuff back into a little bit of fresh water. You have some makeshift chemistry shit going on here dude, the end result is most likely not safe for your extremely sensitive nasal passages at all.(which is probably why it burned so bad.) Not to mention the fact the morphine has an extremely low intranasal bioavailability, and codeine needs to be metabolized by the liver to become active.

 

[enzymex]

If someone goes thru the trouble of extracting and drying residue opium from seeds or does a bit more complicated pod extract, it would definitely be the most effective taken plugged up the rectum. Just mix well with 1ml of water, draw it up a syringe and squirt the solution up the bum. The faster onset and peak plasma concentration gives nice rush compared to eating the stuff.

Extraction will almost always be too crude for smoking and IV is totally out of the question for obvious reasons.

Eating is the second best option, but you could have just made the tea in the first place.