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How to help my friend go deeper with acid?

Im checking it out now, thanks :)

Mailmonkey said:
I used to love going to hot sweaty parties in tiny rooms with pounding soundsystems and lots of other trippers. We all "go deeper* in our own ways.

Your idea of what he should be experiencing may be very different from his.

If I was him I'd be looking for a more fun trip partner, but it's all personal innit?

Why don't you show him this thread? He can see what his good friend's intentions are ;)
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already told him to, Ive been telling him to join BL for about a week

if he wants to have an intellectual trip instead of a the kinds he has been why shouldnt he?

Im not making him do anything
 
You can only have the trip you want. You make it so it's just a trip to get fucked up or it's a trip about the mind, either way just make sure you have that some one to guide you. Feel you go more into the mind trips if you have some one you love
 
what exactly does it mean to "go deeper" anyway?
sometimes, going deeper for me just means going away from the real world as far as possible and come back refreshed, through fun, but not really analyzing the inner workings of my psyche.
sometimes, going deeper is a low dose trip with the one you love, discussing life. no visuals, no mind games, just adding a little depth and serenity to a conversation.

psychedelics (and probably most drugs) are tools. and just like tools, you can use a hammer to nail a pretty picture in place, or build a tree house, or even a skyscraper. some people use thier minds to watch tv, while others exploring the limits of the outer cosmos. you may try to show them a way (theres not ONE way) but in the end they have to go down thier own path, if they so choose. i believe its not the dose, but the intentions of the pilot.

best of luck
 
give him 8 dried grams of stropharia cubensis in silent darkness, see if he is so gung ho after that :)

I've taken very high doses of acid and shrooms for decades and 8 grams of good mushies is totally my upper threshhold expeience, about as far out or deep in as I would ever wish to go.

And in the 60's if you didn't take at least 500mics of lsd you weren't even in the game.
 
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webbykevin said:
give him 8 dried grams of stropharia cubensis in silent darkness, see if he is so gung ho after that :)
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Thats pretty much what Im gonna have him do lol...

so far I have told him to do some research on breathing techniques, ego loss, ive told him to check out BL, and to watch the How to take psychs video, and I dont think hes done any of it..
 
Rm-rf has it spot on. Psychedelics and meditation techniques go together like bees and honey. In my opinion this must have been where the inspiration for things like meditation, breathing techniques, yoga, and tantric practices came from originally. I have been doing this combination since the beginning of 2010 when I stumbled across it by accident. It was taught to me in a trance, and the experiences I had took me to a whole new level of altered states. I further refined these techniques by researching common methods used by hindu and buddist tantric and yogic practitioners and it just gets better.

I had a mindblowing DOC trip the other day, by doing a basic chakra cleansing meditation during the peak/plateau. I only took 2.5mg, but it turned in to a completely transcendental state by using a simple technique of visualization and energy redirection. I followed it up with a breathing technique which opened my third-eye up to the organic light. I could have gone a lot further with it. It kind of takes you by suprise sometimes and it can even be, in some sense, a little scary when you get in to those realms.

I promise you, if you do these breathing techniques whilst tripping like rm-rf suggested, you will have a transcendental experience. Also try postural techniques with meditation. I'm not completely familiar with the world of yoga and it's official practices, but tantric exercises have brought me to spectalular levels. ;)
 
Some people are just not meant to have these ultimate revelation thoughts whilst on psychedelics or ever. Thats what Ive found anyway. Its hard to describe. But there are those people you meet who indulge in psychs and just "get it". You can have instant deep and philosophical conversations and they are just on the same level. Then there are people who trip and just think its a big gigglefest and use it solely for fun. Using psychs for fun is not a bad thing but Ive found some people are only meant to go that far on them.

Not necessarily a bad thing, but I guess some are just not meant to delve into these thoughts. Each and their own.
 
I find i won't let go deep on acid when i still have to do all things i do on my everyday life like using money to buy a beer or having to make a "normal" conversation all these everyday situations make you hang your ego there i also find i won't let go if i have to return to normality in 1 or 2 days after the trip you can't let go if you know next morning you have to take care of your 3 year old daughter ... you have to respect it for me respecting it is do it only when i have enough time to let the experience settle within me . It really doesn't take much of a dose for me to get there.
If you are in an urban enviropment inside or outside doesn't really helps also. . If someone is doing it for recrational puposes only and doesn't take care for the set and setting will have a bad trip eventually . And maybe he will even blame the substance for his bad experience . I always say the same thing go somewhere for 2 weeks in a forest a river or sth camp there relax a week take acid and have a week more there .
if you take acid going out partying yeah i know it's great dancing on acid and stuff . but your enviropment doesn't really helps that introspective view nor it's a place to let your ego go away becoming one with the sand the treas the sky blah blah blah uniting the universe and finding your inner self and all that nonsense :P
 
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