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Stimulants Combining ritalin with opiates or benzos?

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Hey all,
I'm prescribed ritalin for school and don't mind it from time to time but during heavy school weeks, I find myself getting intensely edgy by the end. I've been thinking of trying it with opiates or benzos during such times and was wondering if anyone has experience with either combo? Which is better/safer/still allowing some lucidity? Any insights would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks :)
 
Either combo is okay really. Take the benzo before the Ritalin, take the opiate before or at the same time as the Ritalin. Benzo + Ritalin is really if you want a Ritalin high that is more relaxed, a little less intense. Opiate + Ritalin is really a recreational combo with 2 highs coming into 1.
 
I used to do the same with adderall & vyvanse. I used to take K-pins, valium, and xanax. Never had any problems and it is relatively safe compared to a "speed ball"

IDK about ritalin, but I'm sure you could ask your doc to try vyvanse as it's abuse potential isn't as high as dexedrine or adderall.
 
Alex000 said:
Either combo is okay really. Take the benzo before the Ritalin, take the opiate before or at the same time as the Ritalin. Benzo + Ritalin is really if you want a Ritalin high that is more relaxed, a little less intense. Opiate + Ritalin is really a recreational combo with 2 highs coming into 1.
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opiate + upper = speedball. I wouldn't speedball with ritalin, despite any speed ball being dangerous, I think ritalin isn't as euphoric as amphetamines or cocaine, which is typically the reason, "the rush"

to relax, which is what OP wants, the benzo's work well.
 
I love to pop 15mg of Dexedrine and 2.5mg of Valium then walk to school. It takes away alot of the restlessness and heart pounding. There was a brief time I had a ton of hydros and thats probably the most productive buzz someone can have. haha good times. Never been so happy to be productive.

Its seems pretty safe from my experiencing.
 
impfish said:
Which is better/safer/still allowing some lucidity?
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You'll be 100% fine with either combination, and will be completely lucid with both as well... But, as with all drugs (solo or combo), know your limits and use some common sense and discretion.



Benzos work great for taking the edge off Amphetamines/Methylphenidate, or helping smooth out the comedown, and some like the altered effects of the combination also. I find opiates and benzos to both have good synergy with Amphetamines specifically, but sometimes I just want the Amp itself.

Klonopin (2 to 4mg) tends to motivate me a lot (especially if I take it with 2 of those Extra Strength 5-Hour Energy shots), so I mixed it with D-Amp and it works great for motivation, but does change the feel a bit and is of course more sedating.
Hydrocodone has the same effect for me solo, and has the same additional concentration / motivation enhancing effect when mixed with Dexedrine as well.

Back when I'd take Adderall (therapeutically; I don't really care for recreational Amp usage), K-Pins or Hydrocodone were a MUST for me for the comedown. I fucking hated the adderall tweaked feel.



I'm taking Dextroamphetamine now though, and I love it, as I could take literally 4x the equivalent dose of Adderall and have ZERO tweaked feel / jitters / comedown. Plus, it feels just a lot "cleaner" overall, and I can choose what I want to focus on, whereas with the Addy, the Addy would always choose what I was focused on for the next 8 hours or so. To me, it basically seemed that whatever you were doing when the Adderall kicked in, that's what you were stuck doing until it wore off.


I remember several instances of where I took it specifcially to get a shitload of work done quickly and thoroughly, and I was playing Flash games or doing something similar waiting on the effects to start, then it would kick in and I'd be playing games for the next 8 fucking hours knowing full well I wanted to work, but couldn't no matter how hard I'd try.
 
Pancake Astronaut said:
Klonopin (2 to 4mg) tends to motivate me a lot (especially if I take it with 2 of those Extra Strength 5-Hour Energy shots), so I mixed it with D-Amp and it works great for motivation, but does change the feel a bit and is of course more sedating.
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I would say more like 1-2 mg but everyone is different. >2 mg is a pretty heavy dose... The strongest dose K-pin comes in is 2 mg.

k-pin & valiums should be dosed beforehand as they last a very long time 12-16+ hours.

.5 - 1 mg xanax also works well, but only lasts 4 hours or so, and is fast acting, so is best taken when you feel like you need it, on an empty stomach. I wouldn't start the xanax before the methylphenidate
 
Oh for sure. Personally, I find it a waste to do benzos/oxy while still rolling (within 6 hours), it's much better if you take one or the other (or both) once your euphoria has substantially subsided. I also found that the oxy high was much less intense on dexie days.

I get loopy on benzo/dexie combos and get retrograde amnesia (don't remember all the roll). My friend and I believe that taking benzos is best when you're ready to relax/go to bed.
 
Pancake Astronaut said:
To me, it basically seemed that whatever you were doing when the Adderall kicked in, that's what you were stuck doing until it wore off.
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Haha, that's my experience with ritalin too. Extremely frustrating but also the only reason I can juggle and spin my pencil ;) Would love to try dex but my doc gets suspicious whenever I try to switch my meds and starts asking for documentation proving I need it. Eh, guess I'll have to leave it alone for now.

Thanks for all the insight guys. I tried a benzo last night and it definitely softened the twitchy tunnel vision :)
 
When I am coming off an amp or coke binge I usually take three or four oxys or some h and it does me wonders. Im still awake and feeling the effects of the amps but Im really relaxed and feeling really good!
 
^You're not suggesting the OP use H,surely--just want to clarify;): don't go for such an extreme. I'm assuming you're nof that dar into opiates/opioids (as this prob wouldn't be asked if that were the case).
Everyone is on the same page as I am, though- it's generally an alright combination. Do you have history with benzos and opiates? Or particular combos? Any negative reactions or underlying health issues?vIf all is good and well, I'd say a low dose benzo is great for ghe comedown/making the stimulant experience less harsh. Valium/clonazepam are typically good for daytime use while (since are usually received as "heavier") alprazolam and lorazepam (or temazepam for sleeping especially) aee great for evening use. Or, if you won't have much to do thwt is too demanding. aopiates ARE useful, I combine all three regularly --but do not condone or suggest this to anyone... without knowing their habits intimately... and have never had any problems. However I am prescribed loraz, clonaz, and temaz=have a tolerance & dependence on benzos+ am prescribed oxycodone (am a heroin and general opiate addict)... and I love my stimulants.
 
I agree that trying Vyvanse, or also Focalin, would be a more practical solution--Ritalin, to me, is just the nastiest stimulant around, and I know those repeated comedowns build up over the course of the day. Most people have less of that with Focalin or even Straterra (which is less of a rollercoaster than dosing Ritalin multiple times a day), though we all respond differently... Your mostly favorable response to Ritalin does suggests a favorable response to Straterra and Focalin as well, though.

You're in school, so it's extremely important you take only a minimal amount of a benzo, preferably a short-acting one that will wear off around the time your final Ritalin of the day does) if you do so choose to manage this drug-related problem with... more drugs. A mere fraction of your lowest recreational dose is what I'm talking about--your friend asks you if you're high 30 minutes after taking it, and you say "can't feel shit, must be counterfeit pills pressed in a garage somewhere in Ecuador." Benzos won't get rid of stimulation much in moderation, but they will cloud your mind and impair memory which you really can't afford when Ritalin is already necessary to help you do your best. I would take a minimal dose (look up Xanax pill strengths on Google as I don't want to type the specific amount I have in mind--once you see it and after you laugh, that's right, I meant very minimal indeed :P) of alprazolam (Xanax) just before you typically start to feel shitty. You won't be able to point to its direct effects or feel at all intoxicated, but you should feel a little better, less edgy with lessened anxiety, at least. Give it a few days. Not helping but not hurting either? Double the benzo dose for the time being, fail an ADHD exam if you haven't already, and visit your doctor, proof in hand, for a real solution. Don't tell him what to give you, just say the Ritalin works well but the side effects make you feel like crap, especially late in the day. That's his cue to say "Ah! Straterra!" and if it's not any better after a couple weeks, the average doc has at LEAST two other solutions to try on you regardless of how old you may be and possibly even five depending on how liberal he is with the script pad and how much he trusts you.

And I'm sorry, but Desoxyn isn't one of them ;)

Not directed at you, but it had to be said: Speedball = (Heroin or Morphine) + Cocaine + syringe + vein, nothing else.
 
Nope haven't gone as far as H, my access channels are quite limited so I pounce on opportunities when they arise, milk them for all they're worth and then squirrel away the resulting treasures. That's one of the reasons I ask, as I don't want to be too liberal with my experimentation given I have a limited stash. Thankfully I'm a 125 lbs female with a brain that reacts to the slightest doses. And I don't really have an actual doctor, just the school one who gives me the chills with her angry scrutinizing eye.

I think you're right about failing an ADD test, i've never done one before though, only a wide ranging LD test. Is it a face-to-face kind of thing? Would love to actually be taken seriously on this and come up with something that works.

Until then though this is a lot helpful info on managing my ugh-ritalin. Big thanks.
 
When I took the test 15 or 16 years ago, it was a simple hand-eye coordination computer test, and if you clicked when you weren't supposed to in a manner suggestive of unfocused hyperactivity, you failed and could then be diagnosed. I'm sure things are a little different today, but basically anyone can get the diagnosis still.
 
IMO a benzo is a red emergency button on stims. What I mean is its a stop button. Use only in emergency's. get it?

A opiets only makes you feel better, stronger, smoother. It blends with the stim, it makes the wear and tear not so bad. Sure its only temporary but it makes it better. If your tired or edgy it will take care of that. (to much and you will end up feeling sleepy and tired) there is a balance. A downer is just that down. Upper + downer = middle :P
 
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