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Looking for Visuals?

OTGee

OTGee

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Hey I am pretty new to the psychedelic side of drugs having only just tried my first a few months ago. I have tried AMT 10 -15 times at doses from 10 - around 60mg and DOC twice at 1 and 1.5mg's. Anyway i know whatever you can know about psy drugs with the help of erowid and such but i believe its a compeltely personal experiance and can't really be described. Im looking into trying something a bit different now and looking for a more visual trip. While the visuals on amt have once been very very very intense (Taking 200mg between me and my girlfriend over 2 days with no sleep) but still nothing has been intense enough for me. Ive read reports on acid but it seems like taking 1 - 2 tabs describes one of the good amt trips, I am looking for something stronger though. Even my first experiance on DOC (1.5mg's) was not intense and I had never tripped before apart from taking a very small amount of some 2c that had little to no effect. I was even in the middle of nowere in Scotland in a depressing old town with just me and my girlfriend, 35 pounds and took the DOC 10 mins after arriving. This trip although in some ways terrifying was still nowere near intense enough. Anyway my real question is, should I attempt to get LSD (I am broke and prices can be upto 10er a tab here thats why I have not tried it yet) or take a stronger dose of AMT (70 - 100mg's?). A concoction of both? I am looking for something of an adventure and a lot stronger then my other trips. I take everything in my own house with close friends and my girlfriend so inability to function around society is no problem. I can also ask around for other things although if I want to get magic mushrooms I would have to order a grow kit as no one sells in my area and all I know for sure that I can purchase is DMT, acid and AMT.

I would enjoy taking something alongside AMT as I occasionally feel like ive taken a large amount of mdma often through my trip which keeps me in a upbeat completely positive mood. I am staying away from buying more amt or anything for a few weeks as I do not want my honeymoon to become an addiction and will try to not be tempted by the 2 30mg hits I have left for at least a week.

Any ideas on my next adventure? Or words of wisdom for someone in my situation?
 
2c-e is highly visual if you take enough. Snort some 2c-e and your visual field will be completely altered.
 
Thanks for the quick reply but as it is illegal in the UK it will be harder for me to get but I will ask around, anymore suggestions are apreciated
 
I feel like acid is a lot more of a mind fuck at 1-2 tabs. I'd say 3-6 you will get some very good visuals. Anything beyond that is just crazy man and not worth the money. I would say it would be worth trying 3 tabs (maybe not your first time because it might be to intense)
 
DOC is plenty visual if you take the right dose. My highest dose has been 3.5mg, but 2.5 mg is still intense for me, and very visual. The CEVs are amazing. So is LSD, a good dose should have you swimming in visuals.

If you are one of those people who don't get visuals, maybe it is the way you are thinking about the trip. Having expectations can stifle your visuals, as can not relaxing and being too concerned about what you want to see next. Also, being distracted with everyday activities where you are using your logical brain can hinder the trip. You need to be in a set and setting where you can let your mind wander and drift in to non-ordinary brainstates.

You said you can get DMT. If that doesn't give you "visuals" nothing will! :)
 
I find 2ce to be very visual aswel, although I really love 2c visuals they still don't compare to a high dose lsd, mushroom or dmt trip ime. if its real lsd you get ahold of then it'll defenitly do want you want if you take the correct dose. A lot of psychs can be very visual so its always good to never under estimate any chemical mentally/visually. I under estimated lsd when I first started tripping since I had tripped atleast 10 times on lsd, the first 10 times produced trips with some minor visuals and mind alteration nothing to serious. I eventually took a bigger dose than I usually took and within the 1st hour it was more visual/mental than every trip iv had put together easily. I would mainly recommend researching everything you can about what you consume its helped me out alot
 
Pushing the dose more with aMT is probably not a good idea. Also, 10-15 times within a few months is too frequently. aMT is a monoamine releaser, and while it's not as hard on your mind+body as MDMA, you shouldn't be taking it every weekend (which by my math is what 10-15x w/in a few months works out to). You'll start to get weaker effects taking it that often, and more sideffects.
LSD is visual, but it comes with a lot more than visuals. 2C-E is the same way.

I found modest dose of 2C-B + 4-HO-MET to be very visual compared to the mental effects. I suspect 2C-I/E + 4-HO-MET would be more visual still.

But for intensity of visuals, and intensity in general, DMT is king.
 
If you are looking for an adventure type trip with visuals, get the mushroom grow box. You can thank me in advance if you'd like :D
 
boiledfruit said:
If you are looking for an adventure type trip with visuals, get the mushroom grow box. You can thank me in advance if you'd like :D
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This or the DMT. A high dose of either one will be incredibly visual and just incredibly intense in general, while also being much safer than AMT or any of the 2Cs.

As far as general words of wisdom, I would suggest that you slow down and introspect more. Why are you so into having an overwhelming experience? What's driving you to binge on AMT in an unhealthy way? If you use them thoughtlessly, these substances will sit you on your ass and teach you a serious lesson.
 
Some people are visual people, some aren't. My recommendation is stop looking for them if you want to find them, just try to appreciate what comes your way. A more adventure-y, intense trip, save and invest in the acid, it's not gonna have the difficult body load you may get from just upping and upping your AMT dose till you get where you want. It'll be worth it (subjectively and financially), once you have a real intense experience that you're looking for, you may not want to trip again for a while...it can give you a lot to chew on. Don't go eating a bunch of tabs your first time, get yourself acclimated to the drug with more conservative doses first. Of your listed options, you really can't go wrong with DMT, it should get you where you're looking to get, visually and intensity wise, whether that's what you really want is yet to be seen.
 
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aMT is an MAOI and is dangerous if combined with MDMA. You probably shouldn't do that anymore.
 
I'd suggest trying a higher dose of DOC. I found that 3mgs wasn't very visual, but 7mgs blew me away with OEVs, especially when I smoked weed during the trip. Although I wouldn't suggest jumping up to 7, but maybe 4 or 5mgs instead.
 
I understand what people are saying about my excessive amt use but do not worry, i am between jobs and could not experiment with this substance in the way that I find it enjoyable with steady employment and also because I ordered one large amount it has been my 'drug' as grass is just a daily thing. since taking DOC the first time I decided to cut down on stiumulants and opiates etc and have only taken mdma and freebase once in the 2 - 4 months since my experiance with DOC instead of filling myself with chemicals every weekend and the occasional weeknight (grass is something I do not think of as a drug anymore as I just use it to chill out at the end of the day). So in comparison I am quite pleased with how much I have cut down on my chemical usage. Thanks for the advice everyone and as acid is thee classic psycadelic I might as well give that ago so me and my girlfriend are going to have 1 and 1/2 tabs each this friday and chill and smoke some grass. I am not going to try DMT until I have a good amount more experiance under my belt. I do not know how potent exactly the lsd is but from what I hear from a few semi-reliable people is that it is pretty good. If all goes well with this dose I would be interested a higher dose of acid or maybe a low dose of amt and a low dose of acid combined (my only psyconaut friend says this is a good combination). Anyway if I take 1 and a half tabs of lsd of fair quailty were would you say I would be in terms of an amt dose?
I took me 2 hits and had a great positive trip with huge bodyload (most ever on amt) while it was still one of my most positive trips me and my girlfriend have decided to not purchase anymore for atleast a month and not use it again on such a regular basis as she suffers from low - mild depression the amt definatley increased this a good bit.
 
Good fresh LSD will do the trick. The dalai lama tabs are awesome if you can get them, even on half they are so visual....you cant stop the visuals even if you try...a full tab is out of this world!
 
4-ho-met 20mg has already decent visuals. I didnt have visuals with 2c-e. I differ between visuals and vision, the first beeing visual distortions where everything looks like painted, morphing etc, the later visionary, hallucionary state. Both are cool but i always wanted to see visuals and 4-ho-met was the only psychedelic that worked for me somehow.
 
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