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Which 2c is the most headfucky? Which is the least?

2ce is the most demanding, followed by t2, t7, i, b, c
that is my opinion.

Actually mixing 2ce+t2 can get pretty mindfucky, then throw a bit of a strong tryptamine on top, like some good mushrooms or 4acodmt. That should do it, lol.
 
For me, it has been 2c-i. First trip was great, had a few revelations, 2nd trip was difficult, felt uncomfortable the entire time and had to try my hardest not to spiral into a negative thought loop.

For some reason, 2c-e has been beyond mild for me, as in, I took 20mg and went out with friends and they didn't know I was tripping until I mentioned it to them 5 hours after I dosed.
 
2c-e and t-2 are looking delectable at the moment :)

Has anyone here tried 2c-g?
 
Yes I would say as well that from what I have read 2C-T-2 can be quite mindfuck-y and the closely related T-7 is IME challenging as well as rich.
I think 2C-T-4 would be among the most confusing ones, there is not that much info about it and I have not tried mine (yet) but my expectation is that
it is one of the most messed up ones. But 2C-P also sounds like it can soulrape you if too much is taken.

I strongly recommend 2C-T-7, and also 2C-E was very promising to me at 16 mg. Though I was not moving enough and had horrible body load. I have heard that moving around a lot keeps things flowing.

The least mindfucky would probably be 2C-C, that one I know of from own experience. Laid back even at high doses. 2C-D is less potent but stimulating in a weird way. Even though it is less psychedelic it felt more confusing to me, I did not care very much for it... but it might have been the consequence of other compounds taken previous to the time I keep thinking of.

My best friend took 2C-T-21 once by nose, under the impression that it was 2C-T-2. But it was weighed out by another guy who was well aware of the identity and dose, it was probably a brainfart - miscommunication or whatever. But what I meant to say was that it turned out to be very very weird. Looking at other T-21 accounts it is quite likely that the dose was too high either way and that snorting it changed the nature of the trip (as well as producing nausea and body load from hell, he told me). Seriously, the 2C-T's should all be taken orally, through the enteral route, always IMO.
 
This has devolved into a cornucopia of random comments about all psychedelic drugs and really is being used as a pointless & distracting "what should I take" thread, IMO. Prime example of a thread that should be closed as it is way way too unfocused to be useful for anything really. MODS where are you?
 
2c-e is amazing, best visuals I've ever had besides DMT
The come up is rough but once you're past that you're rewarded with a beautiful trip
I would say it's pretty clear-headed compared to some other psychs, especially tryps
 
I don't think the explicit question is what the OP should take even though you guys are answering it like that. Dwayne does have a point I guess, I will allow only the discussion of the question in the TT: what is the headfuck factor of each of the 2C-X compounds?
If that helps you form your own decision then so be it, but I said: own decision so please everyone stop treating this as if its just a 'what should I take' thread.
QuasiModo, if you dont think the question in the TT is sufficient for a thread for the info you are looking for then please be more clear, we could then close the thread and see about pre-existing threads that answer your question. There are countless pre-existing threads, you know? Just check the Psychedelic Index, there should be a link in there somewhere to the general 2C-X comparison thread.
If your focus is not on the mindfuck factor per se then we can merge this with that thread. It's a place where it is sort of condoned that people compare and rate compounds but everyone should STILL do their own homework/research and make a decision by themselves. A bunch of people yelling different compounds should not really help you. It's not like you can let others pick for you.
 
Captain.Heroin said:
Personally, I would try mushrooms. That's exactly what you're looking for from what you're describing.

2c's aren't as deep or spiritual IME. No offense to anyone who would readily argue otherwise with me. ;)
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The OP has tried mushrooms, as this was the response I got when i suggested the OP try 4acodmt :) Not to say i dont wholeheartedly agree with you.
 
My bad if the question wasn't so clear, just trying to get some opinions on the headspace(s) of individual 2c-x family compounds. I wouldn't mind the thread being merged to a more relevant thread? I didn't know there was a 2c-x comparison thread.
 
For me 2C-C was the most gentle both body and mind ! 2C-T-4, 2C-T-7 and 2C-P were the rougher ! 2C-E is a different things too.. very mindfuck almost deeper than acid !

Take Care
 
My bad about my last post. I deleted it; now this time I'll talk about the mindspace between the various 2C's.

My opinion is that all of the 2C compounds can provide the psychedelic, analytic mindspace, but all of the 2C's have different ratios of bodyload:mental effects and visuals:mental effects.

An example for a high ratio of bodyload:mental effect would be 2C-I. You always read about people experiencing high bodyload, headaches, stimulation. If this did not happen, people would be able to push the 2C-I dose way higher and for that mindspace they're going for.

Visuals also play into it, too. With some 2C's, your visual field is so fucked that you literally cannot push the envelope any further. The 2C's generally get visual faster than headfucky compared to tryptamines.

If you read the Big & Dandy 2C-C and 2C-D threads, you will see that people who have pushed the envelope with these compounds have sometimes labeled them as "true gems." The dose is very high to achieve a truly introspective and analytical mindspace, which is probably why many trippers look past the compounds due to very high cost compared to the other 2C's.

I currently am working with 2C-C and working my way up. I think erowid is wrong with the dose chart. I think 2C-C allows you to push the dose high to get the effects you want because it has one of the most tolerable bodyloads of all the 2C's (and is actually very euphoric!), and is also very empathogenic, which I believe is a great quality in a psychedlic experience. We are human, after all, and having a cold and analytical mindspace common to a lot of the other 2C's is not generally as useful.

If you have the money, get a good quantity of 2C-C. Maybe 2C-D. For me, I require more 2C-D then 2C-C to get "equal" effects. I tripped on 50mg of 2C-D last night (highest I've gone yet) and I was at a weak ++. 2C-C is more empathogenic and euphoric than 2C-D, so I have moved on from 2C-D. I have experience with E, I, D, and T-2, and for various reasons, I have moved on from those, too.
 
Quick update before I get a chance to do a trip report; LSD + 2c-b is all I could ever ask for in a drug experience.. Beautiful.
 
For the most headfuck, 2c-e is the one I would pick. I don't find it very hallucinogenic, but it is very mental.

As far as the least headfuck,2c-c is very light for most. 2c-I has been very visual and less mental in my experience.

2c-p was a more "in your face" experience. Reminds me of 2c-b but 2c-p has a duration of 12 to 18 hours.
 
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