Opioids have question about my pain meds before i goto my dr

[OpioidSoldier]

I take:

80mg METHADONE 10mg MALLINKODT tabs daily,
150mg OXYCODONE IR 30MG MALLINKODT tabs daily,

also take xanax and adderall for add and panic atks..

Main question is I really want to switch to opana er from methadone,

so 80mg methadone would mean i take how many mg's of opana er per day and tell me if there are better drugs out there besides oxycontin so plz let me know

thanks!

 

[lorne667]

... I would not suggest switching from from MD's to Opana ER's. Opana ER's are one of the weakest opioids around if you don't bang them, or at the very least. And you, CANNOT bang or snort opana ER's. Yeah, people claim to snort them, but believe me, I am a real fucking junkie and whenever I have tried to snort the Opana ER's, the goddamn things gel in my nose and have no effect. Of course, if you had a low tolerance, you could get some effect even with it gelling, but on 80mg of MD a day, it would be physically impossible for you to snort enough to even help the pain(and even if you did, you get less effect because of the gel)

Remember, Opana ER's CANNOT be cheated. Thus, they must be taken orally. Oral BA of all the -morphones suck, and oxymorphone is no exception, rangin from 10-20% of the actual dose, and averaging closer to 10% than 20%.

And because of the time release, the pill is released very slowly, meaning your not only stuck with the pitiful 10% BA, but since it is released so slowly, it will feel less than hlaf as strong.

So I just did some rough math, and it would take at least 200mg Opana ER's to get the same pain relief as you do from methadone. If you don't wanna be on Methadone anymore, that's on you, but you will need to take a few months to taper your dose down, as 80mg a day is no joke. After that, you can try the Opana's, though I strongly suggest getting the IR's, as the ER's are literally the worst opioids I have ever tried...

 

[Tchort]

OpanaER is often 'cheated' for a variety of purposes (IV included). However, for pain management over the long term, getting on OpanaER just to break the time release and abuse prevention matrix would lead to a world of hurt (a number of posters on BL can expand on what happens when you start abusing your pain management medications and spiral out of control).

opioidsoldier: It sounds like you have long-term pain management needs. It also sounds like you've got a competant doctor (who understands the value of prescribing a long-acting opioid along with short acting potent opioids for breakthrough pain/round the clock relief).

Why is it that you want to get off the Methadone and/or Oxycodone? Different opioids have different side effect profiles, are 'good' for different things in different pain patient populations, etc. While no one here is going to give you medical advice, the posters could provide you with the information that'll help you communicate with your doctor(s) why exactly a different pain medication would be better for your needs than your current ones, the differences between them, personal experiences and anecdotes, etc. The more information you have the better off you'll be.

Aside from the above question about why you want off the Methadone and/or Oxycodone, why do you think Oxymorphone extended release would be better for you?

 

[xxsicknessxx]

Stick with what you got buddy. You may regret changing it up. However the best pain relief (fast) is dilladid by far. It doesn't last long but for break away pain it rocks. For long term pain relief methadone is really good. I would stick with that. As for the xanex and adreall do you really need it bro? The adarall is prob giving you axiety, and xanex doesn't last very long clonipin is a long lasting benzo if you got anxiety all the time. I would drop the ADD med I think most people don't have ADD they just get hooked on speed and don't like to admit it. Which is cool I wouldn't mind some add meds my self and my doctors have told me I have add I just don't see how taking speed in the morning is going to fix anything. I mean you going to take it for the rest of your life? When you 50 and got a family your going still be taking all these meds? dunno I think less is more when it comes to drugs. BTW this comes from 9years of EXP with all drugs, I had gastric bypass and live in constant pain, so I feel ya there, but I have learned to deal with it without drugs beside suboxon

 

[TheLostBoys]

Ive tried Methadone but not Opana but from what my friend has told me, Methadone works great for chronic pain & it lasts long. When I tried Methadone (5mgs) for my back pain as an experiment, I didnt have to take any other pain meds for over 30 hours. There isnt any other pain med out there that lasts as long so if I were you, I wouldnt switch.

 

[lorne667]

OpanaER is often 'cheated' for a variety of purposes (IV included). However, for pain management over the long term, getting on OpanaER just to break the time release and abuse prevention matrix would lead to a world of hurt (a number of posters on BL can expand on what happens when you start abusing your pain management medications and spiral out of control).

opioidsoldier: It sounds like you have long-term pain management needs. It also sounds like you've got a competant doctor (who understands the value of prescribing a long-acting opioid along with short acting potent opioids for breakthrough pain/round the clock relief).

I'm sorry, but that's not accurate, the only "cheating" is dissolving it in goddamn alcohol, which loses some of the drug.

Seriously, though, Opana ER sucks. You will regret it everyday of your life if you have true pain needs.(let me stress true)

Why is it that you want to get off the Methadone and/or Oxycodone? Different opioids have different side effect profiles, are 'good' for different things in different pain patient populations, etc. While no one here is going to give you medical advice, the posters could provide you with the information that'll help you communicate with your doctor(s) why exactly a different pain medication would be better for your needs than your current ones, the differences between them, personal experiences and anecdotes, etc. The more information you have the better off you'll be.

Aside from the above question about why you want off the Methadone and/or Oxycodone, why do you think Oxymorphone extended release would be better for you?

I'm sorry, but that's not accurate, the only "cheating" is dissolving it in goddamn alcohol, which loses some of the drug.

Seriously, though, Opana ER sucks. You will regret it everyday of your life if you have true pain needs.(let me stress true)

 

[Beachcat]

I agree with the above. Opana ER SUCKS taken orally. I had to snort mine, and it just rocketed my tolerance up and made me feel severe withdrawal symptoms every time it started to wear off. Worst drug ever, it gets you in it's clutches. I have never taken methadone, I take MS contin with roxicodone for breakthrough, it is working really well at the moment. Seriously, look into something other than the opana ER.

 

[MikeySpikes]

I'm sorry, but that's not accurate, the only "cheating" is dissolving it in goddamn alcohol, which loses some of the drug.

Seriously, though, Opana ER sucks. You will regret it everyday of your life if you have true pain needs.(let me stress true)

Before I started shooting dope, insuffated opana er 40 was the reason I went to rehab for the first time, I'm talking about official opana, the yellow stop sighn shapped with a 40 on the front !?! A quarter used to have me puked with a tolerance.
One thing u said right is the oral ba sucks, and the average junkie like me can't bang them u less ur fucking chemist


Op dude ur docs got u on some lethal shit downers downers and a upper, I whould put money on it thAt your doc shopping from several doctors, be carefull man, we don't need a hieth ledger story.

Also if u are shopping , all ur scripts have DEA number stored in a data base, asking for a change Of a script may throw up a red flag and an investigation my friend. U and ur docs would be fuckéd