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Advice on capping up 2C-I?

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Green Batty

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I just bought half a gram of 2C-I and i want to make 50 10mg capsules out of it, should i mix with glucose powder (or any powder?) if so what ratio should i use? Iv got some milk thistle capsules to empty out and use. the problem is i only have a pair of dodgy .1 scales. Does anyone have any advice on a way to accurately fill these capsules?
 
Yeah, buy a better scale.

Or don't - you can weigh out 100 mg and then eyeball that into two smaller piles, and then two more, etc., until you get to what looks like around 10 and put them in the empty caps. But don't say you weren't warned about all possible consequences.

Read my post in the "true nature of 2C"s thread to get some idea of what you could be in for.

As for whether you should fill up the rest of the capsule with other powder...*shrug*...what difference does it make? You trying to smuggle it through the airport or something?
 
Citrus_Funk said:
Yeah, buy a better scale.

Or don't - you can weigh out 100 mg and then eyeball that into two smaller piles, and then two more, etc., until you get to what looks like around 10 and put them in the empty caps. But don't say you weren't warned about all possible consequences.

Read my post in the "true nature of 2C"s thread to get some idea of what you could be in for.

As for whether you should fill up the rest of the capsule with other powder...*shrug*...what difference does it make? You trying to smuggle it through the airport or something?
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looks like im gonna have to do that then. i heard glucose helped metabolize the 2c
 
Get a better scale this general model of scale will do the trick and cost anywhere for 12-30 $ depending on where in the world you buy it from
http://www.ebay.com/itm/0-001g-20g-..._Equipment2&hash=item2a115404ad#ht_2860wt_952
once you have the scale take small pieces of paper fold them in half twice so there is a general middle are for the powder to sit.
Weigh out 10mg on your scale remove the weighing pan with the powder and dump onto the piece of paper (make sure there is no breeze).
Do this for about 10-20 10mg amounts.
Get something small and circular to hold the cap in (I prefer silicone ear plugs for gauged ears) however anything hollow and circular that will hold the pill upright will work.
Take an envelope and cut off the very tip of it so it is triangular and then cut a small hole at the bottom of that to make a ghetto paper funnel.
Place capsule in circular capsule holder, place paper funnel in mouth of capsule, pour paper with powder into capsule and put top of cap on.
This may seem a bit complicated but there is no easy way to cap them up!
As for the filler material it is only a good idea if there is a potential for people to try and snort them because potency typically increases in that ROA.
If you are simply capping these up for personal use just empty the preweighed amount into your capsule and your golden.
Have you looked into liquid dosing as I think it might be easier for not having a precision scale.
 
I have had success mixing 2c-e into crushed glucosamine tablets (mostly chalk and cellulose), moistening the entire mass with isopropanol and blending well, then dried thoroughly with hot air, mixed again, and capped. 50mg of mixture had 10mg of 2c-E. This was because I had only a 10mg scale at the time and wanted to avoid dosing fiascos, and it seemed to work OK. Your mileage may vary.

I suggest using something other than sugar; it absorbs water from the air and can throw your measurements off.
 
I've had success using a capsule deck (cap-m-quik). I blend 50 doses (so 500mg in your case) in with the appropriate filler (20g sugar) in a coffee grinder until homogenized. Then the capsules all get filled at the same time with no fiddling with tiny funnels or anything. Probably within 2-5% of each other too.
 
i dont have the time or money to order scales. I think the caps i have hold around 100 mg so could i just mix 4500mg of any generic powder, mix it all up real good then just fill up all the caps? how accurate would this be? i dont mind if theyre 3-4 mgs off.
 
NO. Your powder is not thoroughly mixed unless you use a coffee grinder, and the resulting fluffy powder will fill each capsule differently.

You MUST get a scale in order to dose 2C-I safely.

If you trust your vendor to give you exactly 500mg (unless you have a scale, you cannot be sure) then you can use liquid measurement. Dissolve the whole 500mg of 2C-I in 500ml of water, then use a needle-less syringe (like for baby medicine) to measure out 10ml = 10mg.

Filling caps without a scale is just irresponsible and asking for completely unmeasured doses.
 
Green Batty said:
i dont have the time or money to order scales. I think the caps i have hold around 100 mg so could i just mix 4500mg of any generic powder, mix it all up real good then just fill up all the caps? how accurate would this be? i dont mind if theyre 3-4 mgs off.
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If you have the money to buy 500mg of 2C-I, then you definitely have an extra $20 to buy a cheap milligram scale, which is way better than not having one at all. Don't be cheap when it comes to RCs.
 
Exactly. And read through the whole "true nature of 2c's" thread if you don't want to become another HPPD statistic from psychedelic abuse. ;)

Seriously though, we cannot in good conscience recommend you to eyeball doses. I can see you've never practiced filling capsules before, and assume that it's a piece of cake. Do you have gloves and a mask for handling the 2C-I? Mixing of powders creates a cloud of dust in the air, and you don't need to be impaired while working with tiny tools. Try filling some capsules with eyeballed amounts of table sugar, and test yourself on a milligram scale. I'm sure you'll see that "same" will be off by 10-20% on average, which is a huge uncertainty in 2C-I which has a relatively narrow dose curve for finding your own sweet spot.

Get a scale, keep it clean, buy batteries often, and it will treat you right.
 
Dissolve your 2C-I in ethanol (everclear) with a measured amount of lactose. Say you want 10mg doses and have capsules capable of holding .1g of powder, take your .5g of 2C-I add 4.5g of lactose. Add enough alcohol to dissolve all of it and mix thoroughly and allow to evaporate, stir, and measure. This will make it spread out evenly throughout the mixture.

.1g of this mixture has 10mg of 2C-I in it, if you're very weary of your scale you should dilute using 9.5g of lactose. This will give a higher degree of accuracy consider the balance you have access to. If 9.5g is used .2g of this mixture will equal 10mg of 2C-I.
 
greenmeanies said:
NO. Your powder is not thoroughly mixed unless you use a coffee grinder, and the resulting fluffy powder will fill each capsule differently.

You MUST get a scale in order to dose 2C-I safely.

If you trust your vendor to give you exactly 500mg (unless you have a scale, you cannot be sure) then you can use liquid measurement. Dissolve the whole 500mg of 2C-I in 500ml of water, then use a needle-less syringe (like for baby medicine) to measure out 10ml = 10mg.

Filling caps without a scale is just irresponsible and asking for completely unmeasured doses.
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I ended up passing the mixture through a fine sieve 3-4 times mixing it well after each time and manage to equaly fill 50 caps. only time will tell!
 
DiZzyBonne said:
If you have the money to buy 500mg of 2C-I, then you definitely have an extra *SNIP NO PRICES* to buy a cheap milligram scale, which is way better than not having one at all. Don't be cheap when it comes to RCs.
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I used to have a nice pairs of digis but they broke after some hard usage. my supplier had to split a gram for me by eye and it turns out i got 600mgs lol so i kept the extra 100mgs for snorting (dont worry im not an idiot and will split it into 10 rails). im not sure what country u are from but over here 2c-i is relatively cheap. the half gram only cost me *SNIP NO PRICES* which was an amazing deal to be fair. caps usualy go for *SNIP NO PRICES*.

I ended up passing the mixture (used milk thistle extract as the caps originaly contained this) through a fine sieve 3-4 times mixing it well after each time and manage to equaly fill 50 caps. only time will tell!
 
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Yikes, that sounds scary! First, your supplier 'split by eye' so you don't know exactly how much you're starting with. You say you 'kept the extra 100mg" but without a scale, how can you be sure? So right from the start there's 2 unknown measurement points.

Then you mix with an unknown weight of Milk Thistle. Well, it may LOOK like it's well mixed, but I highly doubt it. Powders tend to form into tiny clumps, so extremely thorough mechanical mixing is required. With your method, some caps likely have 5 - 6mg while others may have 15 - 16 mg of 2c-i. So if someone took 2 caps, expecting a 20mg trip, they may actually be taking 10 to 32!!

With this type of careless methodology, it's no wonder RCs are getting a bad rap. But then I guess it's all about the money...
 
...it's all about the dum-dum-dumdumdum-dumb. ♫

Aaanyway no I would not advise mixing solids (powders), it's really not ideal. Even using volumetric measurement on a carrier is not that great if you
can't even measure it very well to begin with.

Just be patient and order a mg scale, they are not that expensive. :\
 
Wish I wouldn't have even wasted my time responding to this thread the OP is obviously 16 and retarded.
 
^Haha

Yeah OP, if you aren't selling them just wait. If you are selling them just eyeball it. That half gram doesn't sound cheap to me anyways, I can get over a gram for less.
 
Get some cheap MG scales, weigh the doses, and then i'd say forget the capsules! They're a pain in the a*se, it's a lot easier just to fold each dose in a small square of foil. I don't think people care if it's capped or in foil (as long as the doses are weighed out), and foil gives them the option of snorting too (if they dare snort 2c's!) without fiddling with a cap and risking spilling it.

If you don't want to buy MG scales, at the very least just weigh out 100-200mg and keep halving it until you have about 10-20 similar sized piles (Not Advisable!)


PS. £50 is about average for 0.5g 2c-i street prices, but if you shop around on net you'll get it a lot cheaper.
 
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