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What Do You See in the Psychedelic Experience

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In the years I've immersed myself in the wondrous world of psychedelics/dissociatives/empathogens, I feel like higher levels of perception/spirituality/acceptance/self-discipline have been achieved and properly executed. That I have grown to some degree, whether good or bad, into somebody I wouldn't be without their influence. What I've noticed through many discussions with friends, and many hours of online reading through forums, is that there seems to be a higher level of misinterpretation within the community of people who enjoy the psychedelic experience. The magnitude of these experiences is something I personally find uncontested, and endlessly diverse. I feel like people often stay on their side of the fence on how these tools should be used. I know people who like psychedelics for the sensory enhancement, some for the mental exploration, some for the spiritual synergy, and some who just like to take them like they like to take other drugs. For a long time, I myself was unwilling to think that these chemicals should be used in any other context than mine. I feel like this is a good place for us all to discuss the benefits we seek and find in these drugs. :D GO!

The Psychedelic Experience
My overall interest in the psychedelic experience has transformed very rapidly throughout my usage. When I first ate shrooms, I had no anticipated benefits other than pretty colours, breathing walls and giggle fits. All of this came easily, but what came with it was more or less interesting. It wasn't until I tried LSD that my understanding of how powerful and beneficial these experiences could be. I felt a strong spiritual attachment to them. Like they were my source of spirituality. As I progressed through assortments of other psychedelics, each with their own character, I came to the realization that I can't attach preservations to such an experience. My overall use of psychedelics today is much more relaxed. I've diminished all specifications I try to give these experiences. I've rid myself of all my prejudices towards others for their personal differences in desired effects. To me, psychedelics have surpassed the point of expectation, definition or characterization. They have given life to the ultimate motive of my first experimentations with them. They represent my constant exploration for boundaries life can't be given. They throw kerosene on my flames curiosity. I am in love with the lessons they teach. How they renew my acceptance of the fact that there are endless sides to any story. That nothing is ultimately uniform. They are evidence that perception is something that is eternally committed to diversity. No day is lived through one sole perception. I feel like this is a mental process that can be achieved upon examination of anything in the world around us, though the pull of these experiences is strong enough that I can't idly dismiss it. I love that. It's gives me serenity to see how no single form of evolution is divine. That instead, all vessels of evolution are submit to equal realms of appreciation. That's what psychedelics are for me.

The Dissociative Experience
I know I've probably lost some readers at this point. I type too much =D. Basically, throughout my experimentation with dissociatives, I have been able to pinpoint my interest in their experiences on a strictly spiritual plane. Every dissociative, in it's own language, communicates strong spiritual optimism for me. It enables me to analyze myself, my world, and my own God, strictly in its existence beyond my physical self, and my physical world. It awakens me to optimistically approach the question of life without this physical world. Life beyond what I define life as. They give me hope in a paradoxical world. This class of drugs are my favorite, though due to my personal behaviors, and consequences that come with their use (primarily seizures enduced due to Ketamine withdrawel), I don't allow myself to use them. I'm very lucky to be alive with a functioning brain, and I'll always hold onto the lessons they've taught me!

The Empathogenic Experience
Though I personally do not endulge in empathogens much anymore (it's a preference thing), I still must give them their salute. They have given me the ability to let my guard down to the social world. Not that I have social phoebias, I am just impressed on the level of empathy, love, and understanding they have given me. My favorite aspect of them, though, is how they give me the opportunity to look into myself, my behaviors, and what I want in live, without my typical criticisms or preservations. They are an awesome self-help tool for me!

That's all I got. I'm really excited to hear what you all have to say though! GO!
 
Great post! At first psychedelics were just drugs to me, I liked to do them because they were fun. I didn't understand the significance of my trips until I started using DMT and one shroom/harmala seed trip. On the shrooms/harmala seeds I was a deep trance with eyes shut and tripping extremely hard. I encountered the Divine Imagination on this trip and it pretty much straightened me out. I finally understood what was really going on. Then I realized all of my trips were connected to each other, like these trips were chapters/passages in the great book of knowledge. Psychedelics really changed me for the better.
 
Psychedelics are like a perfectly crafted comedy and diss's are a perfectly crafted dark comedy. On one I may interpret the world as shining, altruistic, and vivid while on the other I would share this view holding the knowledge of what a disgusting and deplorable place this world can be and still being able to laugh it all away. Ah the comedies that is and are lifes!;)
 
good thread...i've used all kinds of psychedelics but it wasn't until i smoked enough DMT to kill a horse that i experienced what i can only describe as a the total destruction of my ego..that single experience was not "horrible" per say... but i really wasn't able to integrate it into my life afterwards-almost all my experiences with other psychadelics up to that point had been generally positive. Of course i was challenged with the things i saw and felt but never in a way that "shook me to the core" ..i wont try to describe it cause i cant nor will i try cause ill sound like an asshole but it basically it tore me apart in a way was nothing less than completely and utterly outside ANY frame of reference i had!!
I would always have at least an underlying "sense" or "evocation" of one feeling or another using other drugs.., connectedness, emptiness,a somewhat deeper understanding or myself or reality... or at least some semi-tangible after- thought that was provoking but affirming at the same time. this experience was so completely foreign and utterly overwhelming. I don't think that experience will keep me from using psychadelics, but it was so out of context and unquantifiable that it defied any reason or meaning..maybe the experience itself was the message? maybe there is no message...maybe thats the message? who the FUCK knows!
 
Psychedelics are like a perfectly crafted comedy and diss's are a perfectly crafted dark comedy.

Holy shit! This is the only post I've seen that shares this same opinion. The way I describes it, MDMA is only the good of the world, Ket is only the bad of the world, and Psyches are the perfect balance. Each one is a needed tool for a time, I haven't done ket or mdxx in like a year though, sadly.

Psychedelics show me life in an amplified form, especially in high clean dose. I can see how a tree grew, how sounds moves, or someones breath. My thoughts end up coming so full circle, though a trillion more steps, that I realize it is the same thoughts I would have otherwise had. It is early and hard for me to put into words. They are definitely the most interesting thing in the world to me, and it blows my mind WAY more every time, when I talk to people who ate same/I was with and realize the differences and similarities in our trips.
 
wow man, great post. i dont have much to add but if i may ask a question.
it seems you are quite well versed with dissociatives, and you get a lot out of them it seems. so i ask is there any tips you have for getting something spiritual out of them? ive only tried DXM and K but either way every time i just end up being severely fucked and confused for the entire duration.

once again great writing and i loved reading it, thanks a lot.
 
wow man, great post. i dont have much to add but if i may ask a question.
it seems you are quite well versed with dissociatives, and you get a lot out of them it seems. so i ask is there any tips you have for getting something spiritual out of them? ive only tried DXM and K but either way every time i just end up being severely fucked and confused for the entire duration.

once again great writing and i loved reading it, thanks a lot.

I appreciate your interest in my views, and even moreso that you have desire to see some of the same results in your future use. I really wish I could give you definitive advice on how to accomplish some spiritual motive in your future dissociative ventures, but in all honesty, I know that you probably see the effects of drugs in a different light than I do. Overall when I use dissociatives, there's nothing concrete or tangible in my mind or in my physical world that inspires the spiritual growth that ensues. There's just something I catch onto when I use them, that gives me this benefit. I guess, I could offer some tips, or some instances that I've noticed a peak in spiritual acknowledgment.

1. Try listening to music (dubstep is my choice), using your preferred visualizer. Mine is winamp's milkdrop. I've noticed when I listen to music, usually dancing, along with watching the visualizer on the screen, that I get this sense of synergy. Like, I feel like I'm not controlling my body. I'm so honed in on the sensory output of the music+visualizer, that I forget that I'm in control of myself. I can't fully describe how this works for me.
2. Another big one, is putting yourself in creative control of something. Like, when I'm dj'ing on dissocatives, or playing guitar, I feel this other-worldly effect when watching the result of the manipulations I execute.

Overall, the complete loss of acknowledgment of the real-world realm, as well as my physical body's relation to it, gives me just this sense of ease. Like something else is in charge of keeping the sanity of the normal worlds functions, and when I dissociate from that normal context, I'm able to watch this force operate. I don't know for sure though, everyone's different.
 
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