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Stimulants 1st use was 2x better than any uses afterwards.

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So I recently have been using Lis-dextroamphetamine (vyvanse). My first time I popped 2 70 mg's. Within 30 minutes, I was high. I mean HIGH. At the time, I was unaware this was a legitimate amphetamine, and was expecting a meh methylphenidate buzz, so it was definitely not placebo. During class (yes, I did this during class... again wasn't expecting a legitimate high, if anything I just wanted to kick my last few classes out with energy). Typical amphetamine side effects came up, which I had read about on a seperate occassion, jaw locked, attention increased (even though I chose that paying attention today didn't matter and just enjoyed the euphoria), energy. Couldn't stop playing with the girl who sat in front of me's hair, could only draw pictures that involved hearts (I doodle a lot). Well, after this great experience, I tried it again, same 140mg's, but little to no lock jaw, drastically lessened 'loved up' feeling, definitely enough euphoria to make it more than worth it but I could safely say my first experience was twice as enjoyable overall (despite being in class for the first 2 hours) as my second, and all times after. I've even tried upping my dosage to 140mg's, then another 140mg's 4 hours later, to try to mix the peak of the initial 140mg's, (articles say I should have been peaking at
T-2:00-3:00, but wasnt feeling it) with he come-up that I've come to particularly enjoy even though I realize oral administration provides essentially no real rush. Now I have used this in total of 4 seperate occassions. I've noticed my jaw no longer tightens at all, and it's a lot easier to sleep. These aren't effect i want necessarily but, it's almost screaming that I have a tolerance, and as i mentioned 280mg's over 4 hrs. did not bring me even near the "loved up" and euphoria I had initially (still very enjoyable though). So in a nutshell, Do you believe I have developed a tolerance over 4 uses spread over 2 1/2 weeks, or will I never come close to my first use?
 
pretty much if you use any type of amphetamine more than once every week or two weeks, you're going to feel about half the enjoyable effects for most of the times you use it after that first. If you want to keep the strong highs only use once every two weeks or less.
 
Amphetamines, especially at high doses, develop tolerance extremely rapidly. I'm not suprised you don't feel the same as your first time.
 
NeighborhoodThreat said:
^Yep.

Amphetamines are infamous for this. The first time, or first few times, will be the best. It's the "Honeymoon Effect".
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Darn :/ If only I had used them in a much better setting. Man if I did my research, I could've planned it out and had a mind blowing experience.

ziggo said:
pretty much if you use any type of amphetamine more than once every week or two weeks, you're going to feel about half the enjoyable effects for most of the times you use it after that first. If you want to keep the strong highs only use once every two weeks or less.
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Wow, I knew amphetamines built tolerance quickly but did not know to this extent.

Even though amphetamines have thus far been my favorite high, I believe that I'm going to have to become a once in a blue moon user, between "chasing the dragon", rapid tolerance, physical side effects, and the profound mental addiction aspect that could easily get out of control, I think theirs a better drug out their for my likes.
 
If you take a nice long break from amphetamines (we're talking weeks...at least), you may be able to replicate the "first time" experiences. Maybe.

Sadly, this is the way things are when it comes to speed. Whatever you do, don't eat more and more amphetamines trying to get that first time honeymoon experience. It will only make things worse.
 
Thank you for the advice. Again if i just had done my research like a responsible user, i would not have messed with the 280mg dose. (still was pretty awesome, not as loved up but definitely more speedy. Resulted in a lot less guitar play, and way more talking) I just thought about it and even though this is the first amphetamine i've done, I think the feelings that i'm trying to achieve are much more similar to MDMA rather than lis/dextroamphetamine. I'm really trying to obtain a lot less tweaky high, and lots of more lovey duvey feelings.
 
Don't worry OP, the best experience you could possibly have on vyvanse, probably involves you giving a long winded speech in front of a large group of people at a party. At least that was my best experience.

To be honest, plan out better stimulant highs like cocaine and MDMA. I can say the first time I did either were some of the best nights of my life because of how well thought out they were.


Edit: I've had many amphetamine experiences I thought to be much better than my first. 60mg of vyvanse was my first. My best amphetamine experience was on 60mg of adderall and a little beer.

I've taken 2-3 week breaks and dosed 90mg of vyvanse and completely felt revilatlized. To be honest vyvanse has a bit of a ceiling affect with tolerance. So how you felt on 140mg, may be the same as you'll feel on 60mg with a 3 week break.
 
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First time I was exposed to amphetamine-and-friends, I snorted a large dose of methamphetamine. It was unreal. The handful of times I've used amphetamine since then were far inferior, even in large doses. I think it is this way with a lot of drugs, but it really stands out with amphetamine IME.
 
Pegasus said:
First time I was exposed to amphetamine-and-friends, I snorted a large dose of methamphetamine. It was unreal. The handful of times I've used amphetamine since then were far inferior, even in large doses. I think it is this way with a lot of drugs, but it really stands out with amphetamine IME.
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Doesn't surprise me, meth is way stronger than just regular amphet.
 
Vyvanse is pure shit.
I took 2 70s one time. They didnt do anything, i think all yall people need to research the placebo effect...i know when a drug gets me high and this sure did not
 
Well not everyone responds to drugs the same way as you.
Vyvanse definitely has some effects. After all, it does have dexedrine in it if I'm not mistaken.
 
Treefa said:
Vyvanse is pure shit.
I took 2 70s one time. They didnt do anything, i think all yall people need to research the placebo effect...i know when a drug gets me high and this sure did not
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I think you need to research anything other than being a pessimist, Vyvanse works well for me 70mg a day.
 
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