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Vivid nightmares. Etizolam?

StoneHappyMonday

StoneHappyMonday

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Here's the deal. Did drugs with g/f Friday evening. MDMA. Most of you here know I'm well acquainted with this drug. End of evening took 2 Etizolam. Slept brilliantly. Same for g/f, though she only took one Etizolam.

Saturday, no drugs (except a cider) but again 2 etizolam for sleep at night. Same for g/f this time too (she took two). Slept brilliantly.

Sunday, no drugs. One cider. No etizolam. Same for g/f. Most horrendous nightmares ever. Same for g/f.

I cannot emphasise enough the strength and depth and utter scariness (and indeed similarity between my nightmares and g/f's nightmares) of this. I don't sleep well generally and have had my fair share of 'mares - which, like everyone else, I just shake off.

This isn't easily shaken off.

As an addendum - tried going back to sleep this morning after being awake a few hours and as soon as I hit sleep, I hit nightmares.

Is this anything to do with stopping etizolam? I've boshed about 16 over 2 weeks. But g/f has only boshed 4.

Any similar experiences/help would be most welcome.

Thanks.

SHM.
 
did you dream whilst you were sleeping under the influence of the etiz?

i can't explain the nightmares but i have noticed i never ever dream, because all my sleep is weed (mostly)/booze/benzo induced. if i sleep naturally, i have incredibly vivid dreams, but i think they're only vivid cos dreaming is so novel, get used to them after a few days. so if you've not been dreaming recently i'd guess the vividness might be novelty?

but the nightmarishness, fuck knows, i am v sorry to hear that and thanks for the heads up!

is it possible there's just stuff going on right now that could cause nightmares or are you just not a nightmarey person?
 
yes i too have experienced night mares on etiz. After a meph sesh. They were so vivid i though they were real. My Nightmare (wich i thought was real for a good few days) was that my brain shut down but part of me was still alive and i was going to the lights almost. I would try to scream and shout for help move or do anything but was paralysed. Then all of a sudden it was like my brain restarted and was okay again, only for the exact same thing to happen 3 or 4 times later on. I honestly canot stress how vivid these dreams were to the point i actually for days though that i was awake while it was all going on.
 
No, the nightmares happened quite pointedly when not taking etizolam.

No I don't have anything going on to cause nightmares. And generally no, I'm not susceptible to that many nightmares.

The fact both me and g/f awoke with the same story to tell is.....telling. And scary.
 
I've also found the same vivid quality to dreams when sleeeping without the aid of booze or benzos, and they've often had a nightmarish quality. Though maybe the tendency of unpleasant or bizarre dreams to leave a more lasting impression playing its part. You could be dreaming of kittens, fluffy bunnies, breasts, drugs and all sorts of things that people like and merely forgetting it.

Either that or your subconscious is torturing you for being a miserable git, but I know that could never be the case with you SHM. :)
 
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was that my brain shut down but part of me was still alive and i was going to the lights almost. I would try to scream and shout for help move or do anything but was paralysed. Then all of a sudden it was like my brain restarted and was okay again, only for the exact same thing to happen 3 or 4 times later on.
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That's sleep paralysis. Often comes following the use/abuse of meph.
 
I've suffered sleep paralysis many years ago and this felt different (though I agree Glowing Aaron's does sound like sleep paralysis). This was just constant, night-long nightmares, actually pretty much the same extended nightmare all night long. I was constantly waking up and going back to sleep to the same nightmare. Same for g/f.

I've also had the vivid nightmares induced by stopping smoking dope for the first time in 17 years a few years ago - maybe it was more similar to this as SG insinuates.

My impression is certainly that it feels like an effect of NOT taking the etizolam. Only thing with that is that I have had a couple of days off in the past fortnight without this happening. But then I suppose MDMA also got thrown into the mix this time, albeit 2 nights before this happened.
 
haha so ive gone from a sleep walker to sleep paralytic(sp) stupid fucking brain cant make its mind up.
 
I've gone through 3 10x strips of these in just under a month and the only negative side effects ive noticed have been some cravings when not taking them and waking up wondering how the fuck I got there :D

I did have a one night of nightmares a couple of weeks ago but that was only a 1 off, wasn't particularly traumatic and i couldn't really remember it the next day. I don't think the 2 are related in my case.
 
are they etizolam youve been taking etilaam? If they are ive had two colours of pill both blister packed with same packaing, however one pill was blue and had a brake line and one was white and no brake line.
 
only thing i could add would be stopping using them would make your GABA receptors more active so maybe that caused your mind to create more vivid dreams? purely speculation on no real evidence at all :P
 
breakcorefiend said:
only thing i could add would be stopping using them would make your GABA receptors more active so maybe that caused your mind to create more vivid dreams? purely speculation on no real evidence at all :P
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Actually that's damn similar to something I read on pubmed earlier so you may not be a mile off.
 
same with phenibut causing weird dreams, i think its just your gaba receptors are finally allowed to work so they're firing off on all cylinders, maybe worth your while to take half an etiz before bed fora few days then a quarter etc and try a weeklong taper to see if it helps, i mean, it can only get better right?
 
StoneHappyMonday said:
Here's the deal. Did drugs with g/f Friday evening. MDMA. Most of you here know I'm well acquainted with this drug. End of evening took 2 Etizolam. Slept brilliantly. Same for g/f, though she only took one Etizolam.

Saturday, no drugs (except a cider) but again 2 etizolam for sleep at night. Same for g/f this time too (she took two). Slept brilliantly.

Sunday, no drugs. One cider. No etizolam. Same for g/f. Most horrendous nightmares ever. Same for g/f.

I cannot emphasise enough the strength and depth and utter scariness (and indeed similarity between my nightmares and g/f's nightmares) of this. I don't sleep well generally and have had my fair share of 'mares - which, like everyone else, I just shake off.

This isn't easily shaken off.

As an addendum - tried going back to sleep this morning after being awake a few hours and as soon as I hit sleep, I hit nightmares.

Is this anything to do with stopping etizolam? I've boshed about 16 over 2 weeks. But g/f has only boshed 4.

Any similar experiences/help would be most welcome.

Thanks.

SHM.
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I believe its because sleeping UTI of downers can reduce the proportion of time spent in REM sleep and more is spent in deep sleep. As a result when you next sleep without any downers in your system your brain is catching up on the REM sleep that it needs.
 
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Perhaps a combination of the deeper sleep with depleted serotonin levels is to blame? I've used etizolam nuff times and I don't recall it ever having an effect like this.
 
jancrow said:
Perhaps a combination of the deeper sleep with depleted serotonin levels is to blame? I've used etizolam nuff times and I don't recall it ever having an effect like this.
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Perhaps it is. I've not experienced nightmares from stopping Etizolam either, but then i'm not someone whose prone to them. I dont know anything about nightmares per se, but i've just double checked on Wikipedia about Etizolams effect on REM sleep, as i dont want to be posting mis-information, and it does state that the substance reduces REM sleep. I've also read that when deprived of REM sleep the brain needs to catch up on it, and will do so on the the first opportunity it gets. If you are prone to nightmares during your REM sleep and if you also have disturbed sleep like SHM then you are going to recall them vividly when you wake.
 
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mydrugbuddy said:
Perhaps it is. I've not experienced nightmares from stopping Etizolam either, but then i'm not someone whose prone to them. I dont know anything about nightmares per se, but i've just double checked on Wikipedia about Etizolams effect on REM sleep, as i dont want to be posting mis-information, and it does state that the substance reduces REM sleep. I've also read that when deprived of REM sleep the brain needs to catch up on it, and will do so on the the first opportunity it gets. If you are prone to nightmares during your REM sleep and if you also have disturbed sleep like SHM then you are going to recall them vividly when you wake.
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Do you think this is why i experienced sleep paralysis? Some how the etizolam reduced the REM part of my sleep but the rest of my brain was still sleeping, like my eyes and consiounce were awake body was asleep and still dreaming.
 
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