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are the oxys in australia still the ones u can break the time release?

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Anon54

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im specifically talking about the orange 40mg pills. can u chew them up or is it gunna just be the same as popping em?
im used to drinking 400mg of codeine. u chewing 4 of these tablets will be to much & make me throw up?
 
Crushing will break the time release. Chewing will work to an extent also.

4 will be WAYYY to much for your tolerance.

Crush and swallow one, see how you feel after an hour - maybe redose from there. You probably wont need to ;)

Check out an opiate conversion chart to see what it will be equivilent to in codeine. I think the figure is around 10% conversion of codeine to morphine (depending on your CYP2D6 genotype - I'm probably more like 0 - 1% conversion....)

So 400mg Codiene should work out to 40mg of Morphine.

According to here 40mg Morphine = 27mg Oxy.

Or if you poke in 400mg codeine it spits out 40mg oxy. Dont know if thats the most accurate site to use?
 
L3inad, that site is fairly reliable. Obviously people have their own reactions to substances, but for the most part the calculator works very well. When it comes to high dose codeine though (as I do), then it can be a little trickier to figure out the dosing.
 
I don't know that breaking the time release is quite so simple as chewing them. I always feel like chunks sort of compact together with saliva when I chew time release pills and the result is never as good as if I grind them up really fine and bomb them.

The oxys we have in this country are pretty damn easy to abuse and a far cry from the relatively new formulation that is going around the US known as 'OPs'. I would guess 4 40mg OCs will be too much for you, but it can really vary from person to person. If you take 400mg of codeine regularly then I would start out with 40-60mg of oxy as a rough guide and take more if neccessary.
 
Just reiterating what L3inad said, that 160mg is going to be way too much. I overdosed on 120mg of oxy and granted I was stupid and mixed it with benzos and booze, but I have a fairly decent opiate tolerance. Start with 40mg.

Like D_M said, I reckon the best way to do them is to take the wax coating off, crush them and wrap them in tally ho then bomb. I usually wrap the powder in a few separate bombs just in case the time release matrix rebonds, or something.
 
Like D_M said, I reckon the best way to do them is to take the wax coating off, crush them and wrap them in tally ho then bomb. I usually wrap the powder in a few separate bombs just in case the time release matrix rebonds, or something.
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This. I usually crush into a fine powder and then put it into a gel cap when dosing orally.
 
crush 1x 40mg finely. put the powder into a small bowl. add approx 3-4ml's of water
get an oral syringe, the ones that doesnt have the needle. fill the syring up with the 3-4mls of water mixed with oxy

lub ya syringe, lub ya ass. insert syringe fully into your ass.

plunge away :> :> :>

if no tolerance, i'd say maybe start off with just 20mg crushed and plugged.

then wait 30-40mins or so. if you're not noddy enough then top up :D

ENJOY

get some restavit too cuz chances are you will either feel nauseaus or itchy or both ;Di
 
^ I would've recommended plugging but it but I'm already worried the OP is going to do way too much :/ I really can't reiterate how careful you need to be. I always considered myself a pretty safe user of substances, which is why I was so taken aback after being revived and realising I'd just OD'd. I never saw it coming. I plugged the 120mg in 3 separate lots and after the last 40mg I didn't even feel that noddy. But, next thing I know, I was told my heart had stopped twice.
 
footscrazy said:
^ I would've recommended plugging but it but I'm already worried the OP is going to do way too much :/ I really can't reiterate how careful you need to be. I always considered myself a pretty safe user of substances, which is why I was so taken aback after being revived and realising I'd just OD'd. I never saw it coming. I plugged the 120mg in 3 separate lots and after the last 40mg I didn't even feel that noddy. But, next thing I know, I was told my heart had stopped twice.
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Second this. Had a bit of a scare myself earlier today, though not quite as severe thank god.

If in doubt, always start with less! Someone new to opiates shouldn't even think about taking more than 15 - 20mg imo.
 
Anon54 said:
im specifically talking about the orange 40mg pills. can u chew them up or is it gunna just be the same as popping em?
im used to drinking 400mg of codeine. u chewing 4 of these tablets will be to much & make me throw up?
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No, it wont be the same. Chewing them will help it absorb a lot faster thus giving u a stronger but shorter high. Regarding the codeine if u take 400mg codeine, pretty sure that a single 40mg will do u well. Eating that many will certainly give u nausea and other implications. Not sure about ur tolerance but seeing that 400mg codeine is enough which is roughly 40mg morphine, it will do u:) If ur worried about dosing big, I suggest picking up a travelcalm (red box) for ur nausea. Works for me!
 
you guys really OD on sub-160mg doses??

highest dosing i've done would probably be 400mg~ over a day. I find 80-120 to be my sweet spot for initial dosing. I'll usually sniff an 80 and drop 40.
 
Are you serious? 160mg is an insane dose for a first timer, generally 15 - 25mg is the recommended dose with no tolerance, taking 8x that would definitely be cause for concern.
 
im not suggesting a n00b take a dose like that lol.. my first time i did less than 20mg and was itching uncontrollably.

but anyone who uses opiates on a regular would probably need 80+ for good effect.
 
Oh yeah definitely, depending on your definition of 'regular' I suppose.

I remember my first time I took 20mg with 10mg of morphine on top and it was pretty much spot on.

Of course the next week I tried kicking it up to 30mg and threw up for 2 hours.
 
Crankinit said:
If in doubt, always start with less! Someone new to opiates shouldn't even think about taking more than 15 - 20mg imo.
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I'd second this.

Oxy is definitely a different kettle of fish to the codeine feel. I've known some fairly regular codeine users who were throwing their guts up from 20mg on their first dose of oxy.

You can always take more :)
 
^ I found I preferred codeine and morphine over oxycodone. Not sure why, maybe just because I've become familiar with those two substances over the past five years whereas oxycodone is relatively new and unexplored for me. Was still nice though.
 
It's definitely a different feel, oxy imo has less of the warm body high, but makes up for it in the mental euphoria department.
 
hmm all this oxy talk is making me jelly..i dont really mess with drugs these days apart from the occasional xannie + drinks, codeine here n there and maybe some ghb once ina blue moon...but iv been HANGING for some oxys since i fractured my hand...gave me a few after surgery...BLISS!
 
MrIbis said:
you guys really OD on sub-160mg doses??

highest dosing i've done would probably be 400mg~ over a day. I find 80-120 to be my sweet spot for initial dosing. I'll usually sniff an 80 and drop 40.
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Nah it was a joke, I just wanted people to feel sorry for me 8)

Your comment is useless at best and dangerous at worst, if the OP or someone opiate naive comes on here, sees that I thinks that's a good first dose.

I keep my tolerance down with uld naltrexone so my highs are better, drug costs are lower and I can greatly diminish any withdrawals.
 
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