Feds order pot shops to close within 45 days

I don't know who the fuck to vote for in 2012, they're all the same.
they're not all the same. if a social conservative / republican were president, these dispensaries probably wouldn't have lasted even this long.

obama did flat out lie during the campaign trail, in order to sound more progressive, and then sided with corporate interests once he took office (immediately backtracked many vital campaign promises). but that doesn't mean that there are no principled progressives in the democratic party (kucinich and anthony weiner come to mind, but they have as much of a shot as ron paul).
 

Oh god, that entire video=epic facepalm.

One of her points is that in many communities you can't go a mile without a marijuana retail store and you see people pulling up and otherwise healthy people running in to get weed then leaving. *gasp*

You know what? Within 1 mile of my house there are 3 liquor stores, 1 tobacco specialty store and at least 7 gas stations all of which sell tobacco and soft alcohol. Outside every liquor store I see bums and alcoholics looking on the verge of death. Outside the gas stations are homeless people begging for money and coughing their lungs out drinking cheap wine and beer and smoking cigarettes.

Her points in that video are all 100% ridiculous and obvious bullshit.

Edit- within a mile of my house there are also illegal drug dealers who anyone can see operating in public. And I don't live in a state with medical, again proving her wrong.
 
If Obama is the democrat that ends up running for president I'm sorry but there is no way voting that ass clown back in. Haven't there been dispensaries for like 15 years? If I recall bush was president for 8 of those years and the dispensaries survived. So don't think that just because Obama isn't conservative that he is the best choice to protect medicinal marijuana. Obviously even a democrat who straight up says he won't shut them down still will you can't trust anyone
 
^Rick Perry would almost undoubtedly be harder on dispensaries then Obama. Pretty much no matter who wins the GOP nomination, that would be true, except for Ron Paul (who I wouldn't vote for for other reasons). And Ron Paul won't win the GOP nomination.

I'll vote for Obama in 2012 even though I don't like many of his policies. It's more a vote against the republicans then a vote for Obama in this case, usually I wouldn't vote for him but the republican candidates kinda scare me.
 
i agree i about the republicans this time around. there really isnt anyone that stands out as a better choice than what we have
 
You know what? Within 1 mile of my house there are 3 liquor stores, 1 tobacco specialty store and at least 7 gas stations all of which sell tobacco and soft alcohol. Outside every liquor store I see bums and alcoholics looking on the verge of death. Outside the gas stations are homeless people begging for money and coughing their lungs out drinking cheap wine and beer and smoking cigarettes.

RAND Report Confirms ASA Findings on Regulated Collectives

A report from the respected RAND Corporation has confirmed that medical cannabis dispensaries do not increase crime in their neighborhoods. On the contrary, they reduce it.

The report compared crime reported in areas around dispensaries in Los Angeles while they were operating and after they were closed by order of the LA City Council, as well as those that remained open. RAND found that crime rates more than doubled in the neighborhoods where the medical cannabis collectives were forced to close.

That finding is consistent with statewide data gathered in California over many years by Americans for Safe Access (ASA). Public officials from one end of the state to the other have reported that sound regulations for the operation of dispensaries have resulted in less crime and fewer community complaints.

“Regulated dispensaries don’t just provide safe access for the elderly and most seriously ill,” said ASA Executive Director Steph Sherer. “They make the community safer.”

The RAND study examined Los Angeles crime data within a 10-day window before and after June 7, 2010, the date on which the LA City Council ordered the vast majority of the city’s 600-plus dispensaries to close. RAND compared crime reports between neighborhoods where dispensaries closed and those where dispensaries remained open. A total of 600 were included -- 170 dispensaries that remained open and 430 that were ordered closed.

The researchers found that within three blocks of a closed dispensary, crime increased an average of 60 percent.

The impact of medical cannabis dispensaries on crime in their communities has been a source of debate for more than a decade. Opponents to medical cannabis collectives in Los Angeles and elsewhere have argued that dispensaries are “magnets” for criminal activity.

Yet banks attract far more crime than dispensaries, according to the Los Angeles Police Chief, who reviewed the previous year’s statistics for the city in 2010. And a 2007 study by a UCLA researcher found that you are safer within 100 feet of a medical cannabis dispensary than you are that close to a restaurant, bar or liquor store.

“The additional safety medical cannabis dispensaries provide should come as no surprise,” said Sherer. “They add a clear security presence to their neighborhoods that benefits everyone.”

More than five dozen California cities and counties have established regulations for the safe distribution of medical cannabis in their communities. Other medical cannabis states such as Maine and New Mexico have established state-regulated distribution systems to provide medicine to qualified patients.

Arizona, Washington and Rhode Island are among the states that had or were considering regulated distribution programs but have halted them after receiving threats of federal prosecution from the U.S. Attorney’s office in their states.


More information:
RAND Study on Dispensaries and Crime
ASA Report on Dispensary Regulations
 
I've never voted third party or independent before, simply because the thought of empowering the Republican party without having an actual chance of third party being voted in anyway seemed just wrong...but man, fuck. This election is going to take some serious thought. Not that I expect it to be this election, but how long before enough Americans are pissed enough to say fuck the two parties? As much as I hate tea-partiers, the fact that another party was taken even remotely seriously is somewhat astounding, really. I think I may just vote someone non-Repub or -Dem, because who fucking cares anyway? What's worse, the asshole who doesn't hide it (Repubs) or the asshole who acts like the second coming of Jesus then fucks literally everyone who supported him (Obama)? I mean, the country is pretty fucked regardless of which party gets in, so at least then I wouldn't have to feel like I contributed by voting for one of 'em. Hell, I might just say fuck voting--in fact, this seems pretty likely really.
 
If Obama is the democrat that ends up running for president I'm sorry but there is no way voting that ass clown back in. Haven't there been dispensaries for like 15 years? If I recall bush was president for 8 of those years and the dispensaries survived. So don't think that just because Obama isn't conservative that he is the best choice to protect medicinal marijuana. Obviously even a democrat who straight up says he won't shut them down still will you can't trust anyone
obama's policies have been conservative, socially and economically, no matter how progressive his speeches sound.

also, bush wasn't president while acorn, planned parenthood, and other attacks on useful institutions occurred. (thanks for really sticking up for those, obama, and healthcare and prohibition 8))

our capital has been going dangerously socially conservative since the 70s...
 
That's like saying a civil war general could decide how he wanted the war to end, and that would be how it would end. Next time you troll, either do it harder so you don't look like a pussy, or do it right.

Such a fantastic counter-argument and straw man to boot.

You have made me see the error of my ways, next time I will surely pay attention to civics!

Thanks The Network.

Your analogy has no bearing here. This isn't a "real" war. These are people who ultimately fall under the control of people Obama has by the balls. If Obama deemed it so, he could send a "strongly worded letter" to the DEA advising them of his stance on the issue. Of course his stance is what you are seeing now. Probably has less to do with pot though and more to do with federal power, but either way it is rancid.
 
I think the drug communities in MMJ states should head over to the protests as often as possible. Non MMJ states too. We've been trying to get it on the ballot in Florida but the Republican state congress won't allow it.
Yea I expect there to be some very large scale protests. The feds have really gone too far with this; their stupidity and ignorance sickens me.
I also live and Florida and me and my mom have been hoping it will get mmj do to the multiple medical connditions I have that weed helps allot. I am not getting my hopes up since it is fucking shithole bible belt run Florida. It's bad enough that I can't get perscribed a medicine that works wonders for me and even worse my doctor tests me for it. I almost got dropped as a patient when failing a test for marijuana.
 
^^
what? are you kidding? tell him its none of his fucking business! i would get a different doctor that doesnt try to lecture me about my life
 
And I wanted to go to Cali and check out the scene......

This looks like this.....

People vs. "corporate america" (under guise of US federal government)

Watch the movie "Food,Inc." to understand the forces involved here.....

it takes "organized labor" to fight "organized greed"
 
Of course they want the pot shops to shut down, they are making money that the fed isnt getting a taste of!

i saw a funny bumper sticker that went "dont steal, the government hates competition"

The dispensaries are required to pay taxes to the federal government.
 
Obama is a fraud. Why does he continue the war on marijuana?

and now they want to give us (the USA) Herman Cain which is just gonna make our economy and standard of living even worse then it is now... I am 25 and I've noticed a big difference of the average persons standard of living decline including mine.. this just all sucks, the Republicans get in office then they are gonna really FOR REAL start fucking these medical marijuana dispensaries over and ruining even MORE innocent peoples lives... 'the system' ha, the system sucks!
 
Fed crackdown on California medical marijuana: Does Obama mean it?

A year ago, Californians voted against legalizing marijuana, and last week the Obama administration decided to help them mean it.

The four US attorneys in California announced they would enforce federal drug laws by reining in a pot industry that the state had set up to be strictly nonprofit and medicinal but since has spread like a Mexican drug cartel.

The number of pot shops (“clinics”) in the Golden State has exploded into a $1.5 billion business that even ships “medical” marijuana to other states, the Feds charge, and that “has been hijacked by profiteers.”

“That is not what the California voters intended or authorized, and it is illegal under federal law,” said US Attorney Andre Birotte Jr.

The Obama administration – after appearing soft on marijuana two years ago – is doing what state law enforcement refuses to do. And the Justice Department is being smart about it by going after large-scale growers, landlords who rent to large pot dispensaries, or banks that finance growers. People using pot for medicinal therapy – which much of the medical community disputes – are not being targeted.

The real message to California and 15 other states that have some type of legal medical marijuana is this: You can’t try to legalize pot through a back door, such as exploiting its medicinal use to anyone who claims to have a headache or anxiety attack.

Keeping a lid on marijuana isn’t like Prohibition, as PBS documentary filmmaker Ken Burns points out. Alcohol has long been too widely consumed to ban completely. Pot smokers are a small minority. They are containable, especially given the well-documented adverse side effects of pot, notably on teens.

cont at
http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary...lifornia-medical-marijuana-Does-Obama-mean-it
 
fuck obama but if we have to choose between him and sarah palins RETARDED ass then i choose him. because she would literally ruin the country beyond all fathom.
 
Sad day. I think it comes down to the fact that Obama is up for reelection, and the smart thing for him to do is to do what the majority of people that vote want. Polls are still showing that the majority of american voters are against medical marijuana, so that's what he does.
 
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