K'd-OUT-in-AZ
Bluelighter
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I'm sorry, your a mod your right. I will delete last post
I'm sorry, what is your question?Hallucinations, talking to people who aren't there? I was given an IV of 2mg Ativan at rehab and just felt calm, like I wasn't worrying about things & subtly sedated. But mostly relaxed. I was chained up because I was given it to prevent seizures. I was taking 60mg of Penobarbital and 20mg of Diazepam every 4 hours at the time so that may have had something to do with it.
K'd... perhaps you should spend some more time educating yourself. This is in no way a direct insult, but with the way you type (spelling, punctuation, etc.) and the way you act... it's certainly not giving you any credibility. Do you think your personal experience is somehow superior to scientific/clinical studies? Can you tell us your qualifications and why we should take your word as the absolute truth?
I'm sorry, what is your question?
Well, despite the fact that a study suggests lorazepam is as effective as alprazolam, he still believes lorazepam is "total shit for panic disorder" from personal experience.
Yes, IMO, hence in my opinion, I still insist that Lorazepam is a subtle benzodiazepine. It is not effective for most of "my" symptoms. I'm not trying to say that just because it doesn't work for me that it won't work for everybody else. I'm just stating how I feel about it. It may be incredibly effective for panic disorder/anxiety for the majority of people
Sorry for my earlier posts, I haven't been myself lately. But I didn't pull those numbers out of thin air, I suffer panic disorder so I know which benzodiazepines are effective/ineffective for it. Like I mentioned earlier, "FOR ME" not everyone else.
Apologizes again.
I suffer PTSD, GAD, ADHD, and borderline personality. So I know a thing or two about panic attacks myself.
I get 20 mg Lexapro once daily, alprazolam 1 mg 3x/day, Dexedrine (I get 150 5 mg tabs monthly) 10 mg in morning, 10 mg afternoon, 5 mg evening, and I get 100 mg Seroquel at bedtime. Plus a couple more non-psychiatric meds.
Alprazolam works great for my anxiety and panic attacks, diazepam did aswell and lorazepam was even better than diazepam, while clonazepam sucked. That was my experience with them as far as panic attacks go.
It's not "subtle". Lorazepam has poor lipid solubility and high degree of protein binding (85-90% ) mean that lorazepam's volume of distribution is mainly the vascular compartment, causing relatively prolonged peak effects. So even though it is a short-intermediate benzo, it has a prolonged effect and for some (most actually) people, it takes over an hour for it to kick in and it peaks at about 3-4 hours, for some who metabolize drugs slowly, it would peak about 5-6 hours after ingestion.
really? on an empty stomach, i feel even the slowest pills (e.g. vicodion) start within about 15-20 minutes. benzos are many times faster, and usually soft enough that they dissolve as soon as the liquid you are swallowing with touches them. on an empty stomach, i can feel triazolam in 180 seconds--but that is freakishly on one end of the spectrum. my point just being that there are many examples of pills that are up in the air and flying at the 20 minute mark.I don't think ANY pill can be dissolved, get into the bloodstream and to the brain to produce effects within 5 minutes, even 20 is a stretch.
but what you guys are repeating about ativan and its timeline is ridiculous. unless you are daily/habitual ativan users, i think you two should take a step back and consider. i mean that in a very respectful way, because if you guys were not BL users that i considered level headed about drugs, i would just glaze over this nonsense. a full hour to feel the effects? 2-4 hours to peak? please. you are making my fucking brain twitch.
so you take ativan everyday, and you feel it takes about an hour before you feel it? about 2-4 before it peaks?These are the experiences I've had with Ativan (although I am daily/prescribed user of it)
but what you guys are repeating about ativan and its timeline is ridiculous. unless you are daily/habitual ativan users, i think you two should take a step back and consider. i mean that in a very respectful way, because if you guys were not BL users that i considered level headed about drugs, i would just glaze over this nonsense. a full hour to feel the effects? 2-4 hours to peak? please. you are making my fucking brain twitch.