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Opioids Fentanyl Megathread and FAQ

dwest52036 said:
So I ended up taking the patch off after like 20 minutes... Backed out of my initial decision. Should I expect to feel something in like 8 hours or what?
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No... If you had it on and took it off after 20 minutes and didn't feel anything then or within the next half hour you're not going to. Why would you think you'd feel it 8 hours later?

Brief explanation of how patches work as you seem to be confused. When you put it on your skin the drug is transferred at a certain rate (whatever patch is--like 50 mcg/hr) thru the patch membrane into your skin. It sort of pools in the layer of fatty tissue under the skin and is released into the body. Even when you remove a patch there is still some built up there, so if you have one on and feel it's too much taking it off doesn't keep more from going into your system. But still it's not like an 8 hour buildup. Maybe if you constantly wore a patch for weeks it would have a few hours buildup but from one patch it wouldn't.

Wearing a patch if you have any sort of opiate tolerance is usually not scary dangerous. It's when people heat them to accelerate rate of drug coming into skin, chew them, and particularly IV them that the ODs tend to happen. Because with those methods you're not getting a 50 mcg/hr dose, you can get MILLIGRAMS at once rather than micrograms, and thus OD.

Which is why wearing the patch is safest

But really once you take it off you can't re-wear it. It messes up the membrane. A friend is prescribed them and I heard that directly from her doctor. In fact he prescribed her to change every 48 hr rather than 72 hr due to them not sticking.


Oh, and when wearing them--they don't hit max effect for the first 12-18 hours. It takes usually around 3 hours to really start feeling it once you put it on. So there is not point to putting it on and taking it off in an hour saying you'd don't feel it. It needs time to work
 
Would cutting the patch and just applying the gel directly to the skin have any stronger effect? I've only read about smoking/eating/injecting it.
 
I'm prescribed fentanyl patches for chronic pain and if you read up on how the patch actually works you need to have it on for approximately 17-24 hours before it starts working properly. The fentanyl from the patch diffuses nto the subcutaneous tissue and builds up a depot which then leaches into the bloodstream. Leaving it on for a couple of hours then taking it off won't work...also once you take it off it won't re-stick.

The reason the patch contains so much more fentanyl than it actually delivers (16.8mg total fentanyl content in a 100mcg/hour patch as oppose to delivering only 7.2mg total over 72 hours) is that there has to be a much higher fentanyl content in the patch in order to maintain the necessary diffusion gradient.

There are many ways people abuse the patches which I won't go into but I suggest reading as much as possible about how they actually work before doing something with them that you may later regret.....

Stay safe...
 
I need to know how effective plugging fentanyl gel is? What is a good dose for a medium/high opiate tolerance.
 
I got the fent dope, scary shit!

My guy was out of town, usually IV 6-10 bags a day of this nice brown powder, were a 6 bag shot has me nodding.

Went to a fellow junkies boy in the city over,picked up some stamps of some white as Coke dope and knew from there i had some fentanyl.

2 bags I did, just to test it, thinking I'd be ok with my tolerance being nice - nope - BOOM, intense rush, nodded out within 5 minutes, woke up next to my needle wondering what the fuck hit me.

Now what confuses me is I was very itchy from these bags, like I haven't scratched so hard since I started using. Could this be a cut, or did I just get some fire white smack.

Anyway, stay safe out there guys, I'm not shooting anything white anytime soon
 
I would say the same thing because I'm up to six bags a day and this much I can tell you it's going to kill me in the next couple months. Listen people, you might get curious and say well I want to try that don't I promise you you will end up dead. Self experience. The only thing you gain by doing fentanyl is you will never be able to do heroin again will never be able to do Dilaudid again will never be able to do anything again because your tolerance is way way too high. I'm come on quit cold turkey a player but if it's next to death as I'm laying in this bed. Just be careful out there guys.
 
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i ended up switchin to a guy with the "white as coke" dope the last 6 months I was using most recently. friggen OD'd the 1st time ever. and 2nd and 3rd and 4th.
The thing that got me was 10 minutes, not even, after a good shot, your like wtf why am i not high. maybe its just me though.
 
Those patches are a killer guys, I'm prescribed 50mcg transdermal patches and I noticed when I have one on, I don't crave gear that much at all, I actually barely think about it!!!!! I hate the way I feel on them though, pure goofy & noddy lol :)
 
I have a question I have injected the gel fent patches very easy to do my question is on the patches that resembles a nicotine patch what is the best way to get fent out of patch tried to heat up patch in water didn't get much of anything any tips for safely removing it for injection
 
Hello all. I am new to the forum, and new to Fentanyl. I have a few questions, if it's OK, and I figured here was the best place. I'll try to make this short, so please bear with me.
To get started, I had an accident at work in 2009. I tore my rotator cuff, ruptured my c5 disk, and had a compression fracture of my t5 vertabra. They replaced my c5 disk with a Synthesis ProDisc artificial disk.
The nerves were pinched for a long time due to fighting with workers comp. I didn't get the surgery until almost a year after the accident. The surgery didn't help, and I have cervical spondylosis, radiculapathy, and nerve degeneration. That, my shoulder, and the compression fracture hurt all the time.
I have been taking Percocet 10/325 & Morphine Sulfate 15 mg ER for now going on 6 years. They have lost their effectiveness over time, as expected, and I am miserable most days.
Recently I went back to work. About 3 months after starting work, I was moving some boards, and I ruptured my l5 disk. I have pain running down my left leg, and toes get numb & tingle, & I can hardly walk, let alone the added pain. I am now seeing a pain management specialist. He has switched me to Mylan Fentanyl patches 12.5 Mcg/hr.
I have heard so many stories about them, specifically OD's, & honestly I am concerned about using them. I have been using them for a week now, but they don't help. I'm not sure if I'm not applying them correctly, or have them in the wrong place or what.
The reason I am asking this here is because through the history of taking the Percocet & MS, as well as societies change towards chronic pain & opioids, I don't want him to look at me like I'm an addict, you know?
I take the patch out of it's pouch, & without touching it using one side of the plastic it's adhered to, I place it on my clean and dry shoulder right above my collarbone. Am I placing it in the right spot. If not, where is the best place? Also, considering my tolerance to the Percocet (I know fentanyl is a different drug) is the dosage too low?
Another point of note. From my understanding, correct me if I'm wrong Fentanyl is a fully synthetic opiod. I tried Nucynta a few years back, and it didn't work, that's why my Dr. switched me back to Morphine ER. Nucynta is a fully synthetic opioid. Could it be that fully synthetic opioids don't work for me? Have you heard of people that way?
Thanks for your help. Sorry about the novel, I just wanted to describe everything so maybe someone can help me figure this out.
Thanks again for any help you might be able to give
 
^ sounds like you are putting it on correctly, I think it is usually recommended to be put on chest or back...but shoulder ought to be ok

You're on a very low dose (12.5 mcg/hr)...with your built up tolerance that may not be enough. Also, some people feel much better effects from one brand over another.


There is a Pain Management mega-thread that may be of more help to you and your situation. A lot of people in this thread tend to be recreational users I would link it, but I suck at that on my phone. Mod help?

Welcome to BL !
 
  • Hey i was wondering what the diffrent between u47700 fentanyl, furany fentanyl ,fentanyl HCL , becuase im use to just regular fentanyl patches and and want to buy a gram of it in powder form but i dont really know the difference i have the option to buy 98 percent pure of each and i know pure fentanyl isnt something to fuck with so i wanna know what the difference is and what i should cut it with so it can be a decent powerful level but not take some and drop to the floor. my doctor jut cut me off and i had to turn to the streets for pain management becuase of insurance and complications please help with advice?​











 
  • Hey i was wondering what the diffrent between u47700 fentanyl, furany fentanyl ,fentanyl HCL , becuase im use to just regular fentanyl patches and and want to buy a gram of it in powder form but i dont really know the difference i have the option to buy 98 percent pure of each and i know pure fentanyl isnt something to fuck with so i wanna know what the difference is and what i should cut it with so it can be a decent powerful level but not take some and drop to the floor. my doctor jut cut me off and i had to turn to the streets for pain management becuase of insurance and complications please help with advice?​
 
What exactly do you mean?
A "solution" as in a liquid? Or just a formulation that delivers the fentanyl transdermally?
 
It's liquid. Wasn't sure how much to do or even how to do it. I figured it out though. Definitely don't need more than a couple drops. Works great.
 
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