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Women calling men creeps, is it sometimes about attention?

You know thinking on this more, creepy behavior mostly stems from lack of self awareness combined with a pushy attitude. When a guy can’t pick up the signals and continues to push for something romantic, that’s creepy.

Good looking guys naturally get a lot more practice regarding this dynamic and have a better idea when someone is interested. Someone who’s barely had any interaction with women will obviously have a harder time grasping their disinterest.

-GC
 
schizopath said:
Tinder has it. 95% women fuck 5% men or some shit. Better get your handgame good or learn some proper jokes.
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Yeah the amount of average-looking to fairly ugly blokes I see who have girlfriends / wives, that doesn't pan out.

I reckon the problem with a lot of men is their ridiculously high standards. If you look like nothing special yourself, don't effing expect to go out with a girl who looks like a bikini model. Be realistic.
So many men I've heard whining about how they're lonely and they 'just want someone to love' etc etc, but press them a bit about what they envision and sooner or later the description of 'just some nice girl' is gonna include perfect skin, butt-length silky blonde hair and a pair of pneumatic tits.
 
TheUltimateFixx said:
Yeah the amount of average-looking to fairly ugly blokes I see who have girlfriends / wives, that doesn't pan out.

I reckon the problem with a lot of men is their ridiculously high standards. If you look like nothing special yourself, don't effing expect to go out with a girl who looks like a bikini model. Be realistic.
So many men I've heard whining about how they're lonely and they 'just want someone to love' etc etc, but press them a bit about what they envision and sooner or later the description of 'just some nice girl' is gonna include perfect skin, butt-length silky blonde hair and a pair of pneumatic tits.
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Yup so true.. Media (especially the stuff we grew up on) has gotten guys to think if they’re nice enough the hot girl will want them over the DBag football player. Usually this doesn’t pan out in reality. Hence the nice guy is born.

Add in all the animated hot as fuck characters in games and anime’s, that’s a recipe for disaster.

Folks need to be realistic about what they can get, being attractive does take some level of work and if you don’t want to put it in don’t expect much in return. Sure facial beauty is genetic, as is height, but you get your body ripped and you’ll pull some in no matter who you are.

-GC
 
G_Chem said:
Yup so true.. Media (especially the stuff we grew up on) has gotten guys to think if they’re nice enough the hot girl will want them over the DBag football player. Usually this doesn’t pan out in reality. Hence the nice guy is born.
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A self-proclaimed 'nice guy' is usually the biggest creep alert red flag. 'cause genuinely nice guys don't have to advertise it ; and what THESE blokes generally mean by it is 'women owe me sex for displaying the bare minimum of human decency'. Those are the types you find seething on the Internet spewing some incel rant about 'how the stupid bitch refused to fuck me despite me being all friendly to her and listening to her talking for 20 whole minutes and EVEN buying her a burger'.
Like mate, get a prostitute if you think it's some kind of transaction. The lack of self-awareness is staggering.
 
TheUltimateFixx said:
A self-proclaimed 'nice guy' is usually the biggest creep alert red flag. 'cause genuinely nice guys don't have to advertise it ; and what THESE blokes generally mean by it is 'women owe me sex for displaying the bare minimum of human decency'. Those are the types you find seething on the Internet spewing some incel rant about 'how the stupid bitch refused to fuck me despite me being all friendly to her and listening to her talking for 20 whole minutes and EVEN buying her a burger'.
Like mate, get a prostitute if you think it's some kind of transaction. The lack of self-awareness is staggering.
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Whenever I wanna feel better about myself I go on over to nice guys subreddit, half hour of reading some of those screenshots and I feel hell of a lot better lol. Yea the lack of self awareness is beyond comprehension truly.

And then when they say no to such a proposition, then she’s “a fucking whore.” You know I honestly didn’t even really believe these people were real until I began checking out that subreddit. My ex used to say it’s cuz guys like that try to hide it from guys like me, I guess so..

-GC
 
G_Chem said:
Whenever I wanna feel better about myself I go on over to nice guys subreddit, half hour of reading some of those screenshots and I feel hell of a lot better lol. Yea the lack of self awareness is beyond comprehension truly.
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Ever checked out the equivalent 'nice girls' ? (those are the totally neurotic attention-seeking ones that also expect expensive presents).

I wanna do a reality TV series where these two groups get shipped off to some island and have to date each other. It would be hilarious 😝
G_Chem said:
And then when they say no to such a proposition, then she’s “a fucking whore.”
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Often also while being a 'frigid lesbian' at the same time. Somehow.
G_Chem said:
You know I honestly didn’t even really believe these people were real until I began checking out that subreddit. My ex used to say it’s cuz guys like that try to hide it from guys like me, I guess so..

-GC
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Honestly I get the impression these types of men got their socialisation from porn and movies. They don't seem to understand how basic human interactions work. Even I'm not that hopeless and I'm autistic. Xd
 
TheUltimateFixx said:
I reckon the problem with a lot of men is their ridiculously high standards. If you look like nothing special yourself, don't effing expect to go out with a girl who looks like a bikini model. Be realistic.
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Yeah, I was talking about tinder not real life, yknow? In tinder women are like this. ^ Even the g sized girls think they deserve an adonis on tinder.
 
schizopath said:
Yeah, I was talking about tinder not real life, yknow? In tinder women are like this. ^ Even the g sized girls think they deserve an adonis on tinder.
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I thought you were extrapolating from that platform to real life, hence my reply.

But yup I avoid tinder like the plague because somehow it's just the WORST personalities of both sexes that would seem to congregate there.
 
Neuroprotection said:
throughout my life in education, i’ve heard women regularly refer to men Who show an interest in them as creepy or creeps. don’t get me wrong, even as a man I believe some men definitely deserve that title especially if they keep flirting after being told it makes the woman feel uncomfortable. i’m referring to the women who regularly call everyone creeps, even just for showing an interest in them and honestly, but nicely telling them that they like them. has anyone encountered this? personally, I don’t assume those women mean any harm or really think every guy is creepy, so I’m wondering if some do it just for attention. I wonder if it’s similar to how some men seem to get a bigger kick out of telling their male friends that a girl likes them, rather than from the fact an attractive girl is actually interested in them.
Thank God I’ve never been called a creep, probably because I don’t really have the confidence to go out and initiate conversation with girls, let alone tell them I like them. however, when wrongly used, I think the word creep can Hurt and damage the confidence of some men. What do you all think?
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Well my guess is, yes PARTIALLY it's unfairly labelling any kind of guy who isn't super-attractive, and / or maybe a bit shy and socially awkward, as a creep. But then again don't we do the same? If some girl that you're not into and don't want attention from keeps trying to get with you, she's 'this annoying bitch who won't leave me alone', whereas if the same girl was a 10 out of 10 you'd be dropping your trousers in an instant, right -?

Let's face it, biology has primed the whole of the human race so that we ALL wanna fuck the pretty. While most of us won't GET to fuck the pretty unless we pay for it.

But to answer the question properly, in my experience the type of man women most often label a creep is the sort of guy who keeps being uncomfortably pushy on a first date because they seem to feel that sex is some kind of obligatory contract upon engaging in a first date.
"I put a whole fancy dinner into the slot machine, why doesn't automatic intercourse come out??"

The type whose only conversation (if they were speaking their mind) during a date would amount to 'huuurrhh...
hurrhh.... so when do I get to stick my dick in you already?'

.. And honestly there's NOTHING LESS sexy than that combination of sweaty-palmed desperation and oblivious unreasonable entitlement.

PS illustrative case in point as a bi guy.
I was propositioned at a gay bar.
I chatted and flirted with this bloke, he offered to buy me a couple drinks. He then ambushed me on my way back from the toilets, dropped his pants and all but demanded a blowjob. I was like WTF. He gave me an expression of mixed scorn and apparently genuine confusion and went,
"c' mon man I got you 2 drinks already".

To be clear he was hot. I was interested initially and things might have gone further. But NOTHING would have killed any desire I may have had to get up close and personal as comprehensively as that dickish 'you basically owe me sexual favours now for some minor gesture ' type attitude.
 
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idk I feel like an alien on this planet. personally, I am flattered when I get cat called or hit on etc etc..but I have incredibly low self esteem. now I know I'm not ugly, I know I'm fairly attractive apparently because I get a lot of attention from men (i don't get it) but my point is...yeah idk why a lot of women are that way I think it's ridiculous. especially if it is just a guy that didn't get blessed with good looks. idk I wish I was a little less desperate and crazy but I'm glad I'm different and I wish women would be a little more reasonable with men. these girls obviously don't know what it's really like to be preyed on by sick actual creepy ass motherfuckers which *shudder* i have so so much experience with. like fuck ladies. come on.
 
Dreamflyer said:
I experienced this when I was much younger (teens/early 20's), and I do agree that some of it had to do with the girl's own ego.

If I just acted friendly towards a young woman, she would say things like, "Don't waste your time; you're not my type!".

And I'd be like, "Don't worry; You're not my type either!".
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Definitely sounds like an ego thing. I bet if no one gave them attention they would come back crying.
 
gypsiejunkie said:
idk I feel like an alien on this planet. personally, I am flattered when I get cat called or hit on etc etc..but I have incredibly low self esteem. now I know I'm not ugly, I know I'm fairly attractive apparently because I get a lot of attention from men (i don't get it) but my point is...yeah idk why a lot of women are that way I think it's ridiculous. especially if it is just a guy that didn't get blessed with good looks. idk I wish I was a little less desperate and crazy but I'm glad I'm different and I wish women would be a little more reasonable with men. these girls obviously don't know what it's really like to be preyed on by sick actual creepy ass motherfuckers which *shudder* i have so so much experience with. like fuck ladies. come on.
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Thank you for that. you have a very good attitude and make a very important point. People just need to be a bit more reasonable.
 
gypsiejunkie said:
idk I feel like an alien on this planet. personally, I am flattered when I get cat called or hit on etc etc..but I have incredibly low self esteem. now I know I'm not ugly, I know I'm fairly attractive apparently because I get a lot of attention from men (i don't get it) but my point is...yeah idk why a lot of women are that way I think it's ridiculous. especially if it is just a guy that didn't get blessed with good looks. idk I wish I was a little less desperate and crazy but I'm glad I'm different and I wish women would be a little more reasonable with men. these girls obviously don't know what it's really like to be preyed on by sick actual creepy ass motherfuckers which *shudder* i have so so much experience with. like fuck ladies. come on.
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I don't think that you're "desparate and crazy" at all. You see people for all that they are, and not just what's on the surface. That is an amazing attribute to possess, and please don't ever lose sight of it. People like you make the world a much better place.

Peace, Love and Faith,
Dreamflyer
 
Dreamflyer said:
I don't think that you're "desparate and crazy" at all. You see people for all that they are, and not just what's on the surface. That is an amazing attribute to possess, and please don't ever lose sight of it. People like you make the world a much better place.

Peace, Love and Faith,
Dreamflyer
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I don't think I'm desperate and crazy because of this particular topic but I am desperate and crazy haha. not as bad as I used to be though but yeah.
 
Neuroprotection said:
throughout my life in education, i’ve heard women regularly refer to men Who show an interest in them as creepy or creeps. don’t get me wrong, even as a man I believe some men definitely deserve that title especially if they keep flirting after being told it makes the woman feel uncomfortable. i’m referring to the women who regularly call everyone creeps, even just for showing an interest in them and honestly, but nicely telling them that they like them. has anyone encountered this? personally, I don’t assume those women mean any harm or really think every guy is creepy, so I’m wondering if some do it just for attention. I wonder if it’s similar to how some men seem to get a bigger kick out of telling their male friends that a girl likes them, rather than from the fact an attractive girl is actually interested in them.
Thank God I’ve never been called a creep, probably because I don’t really have the confidence to go out and initiate conversation with girls, let alone tell them I like them. however, when wrongly used, I think the word creep can Hurt and damage the confidence of some men. What do you all think?
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I think it is a really interesting issue, buuut it also can get to the "extreme ends" real quickly when discussed.
I have a 40-something professor at my school, who can easily pas as 30 or 35 maximum. He is a good guy, well-spoken, clean cut - so basically when someone tells you to image a stereotypical-old school professor, that is basically him. When you talk whit him, he can be a real nice person to kill some time - I do it quite often, the dude has so many stories to tell and just overall good to listen to, even when he rents about something.
Oh but when it comes to girls - he can be a awful peace of shit, and since we are on good turns, I even dare call him my friend, I like to signal it to him. So, for example, when we sit at the library and talk, he cannot take of his eyes some or even times-to-times one specific girl (and the poor soul don't have to wear stilettos and fishnets.) And naturally, there is nothing wrong with looking, but when the girls are happens to be around 18-20, I feel a strong sense of disgust rosing up in me (HE is in his forties, those girls are young enough to be his daughters) And when he starst talking about his dating life, how he cannot find a good partner... no wonder, with a 20 years old who is not on your level, both in the case of emotional maturity or just generally speaking in life? Geez, I wonder what can be the issue.
I just brought him up as an example, but my point is - it is hard to defend someone, and state he is not a creep if you have not seen him in certain situations. Since we talk about guys interested in girls, I think for many man it is hard to see or understand why their best bud got called an asshole or creep, when in their eyes, he is just a normal dude - what he is totally can be, but whit you. Since he is not sexually interested in you, of course he will not pull the same bullshit on you as he might does with girls.

On the "good looking guys cannot be creeps because of their looks" bullshit since I read some comments bringing it up: There was a really old video, what for the love of god I just cannot seem to find, but if I happen to find it, I will definitely link it. The same guy, same monologue about how banks are robbing people, and you should put your money in whatever funding system he is also the part of - one time he talks about this shit dressed up as a homeless, another time he wears a suit and clams to be a high ranking member of the company. Would you guess in witch case people stopped and listens to him? I think the people who calmed that bias based on looks ("lookism" or "pretty privilege") is a new type of shit, just did not realized it yet that we, as people do it all the time, and not just the attractive girls who you try to hit on. If you have good looks, you have a better chance in most things: dressing up for a job interview, for a date (both things we hope benefit from in some way) even for oral exams at the uni - if they "outside" is nice, it is a good way to make sure they are interested in the "inside" too.
So, yes it is totally not fair, not just in dating but in any other aspect in life, but if you are looking good, you mostly likely can get away with much more bullshit or have more opportunities. But when it comes to interacting whit people, especially judging what other may find creepy, it becomes hella slopy, especially when you don't know the parties involved that well.
 
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