dunno why this old thread is revived almost 3-4 years later but .. i skimmed the last two pages and don't know what their talking about, codeine when i didnt have an opiate tolerance was an effective painkiller, wasn't overly strong but suited just right where 30-120mg aided with pain relief, the tylenol i've never been fond of i'm still rx'd 90 x 60mg codeine pills, however their pure without tylenol but i used to get 60x30mg for years and years every month which i never really ate the whole script until i ended up with chronic pain, but until then, it didn't matter the tylenol i suppose just went along with the codeine i never paid it much attention since the tylenol 3's or 30mg codeine/ 325 mg tylenol i think i have a few somewhere if i went to look, aswell, if someone wants to get 'high' but tylenol is a no-go then its literally a 10minute process to cold water extract the substance from the tylenol, also calling people junkies isn't particularly a good way to go about things, even though this thread is old as fuck i don't think it should've been revived its got some negative vibes, people on codeine are on the lesser spectrum of opiate land, while we can still consider it a decent opiate i still think it is, even with the high doses i'm on i still take them, they aid somewhat even if i have to take 300mg, i usually stop there since i'm too lazy to CWE n i'm not fond of bombarding my liver with tylenol.
Overall, codeine is a very effective substance, even while being paired with tylenol as 30mg/325 and i think they have 60/650's but they certainly have pure without tylenol 30s and 60s, i'm able to eat them like candy, but the drug should be respected because for those whom don't really take opiates ill quote a friend that messaged me one day because he couldn't sleep due to strep throat pain and i didn't mind giving up a couple of my codeine tabs, he told me that after taking 60mg 'he slept like a baby' and the next day with 60mg he claimed to feel it all day, and i didn't hear about his strep throat pain so it goes to show codeine should definately be a first-line treatment for lesser ailments that cause pain aswell as being effective at suppressing cough, i do remember using codeine along with a hydrocodone cough syrup when i had the flu a few years ago which worked extremely well, it infact somewhat made the flu much easier because i remember i was ungodly sick and a sip of the syrup, 2-4 pills and i was good to go for a few hours
to sum this up, codeine is effective, sure it can have potential recreational value since it is metabolized into morphine however, at the low doses that it is, it shouldn't be dismissed, it is very effective in those that aren't high-dose users of opiates, and even then it still helps forsure i'll take 120-300mg somtimes (keeping in mind i'm a high-dose chronic pain patient) but if you really want to abuse codeine.. i mean its a lesser evil vs other things, id say it has a low-medium 'addiction potential' but it is far from high-risk as some sources online can claim, if used theraputically for physical pain and other legitamate things then it is a truely great medicine.
