"At Woodstock, Hugh Romney (a/k/a "Wavy Gravy") of the Hog Farm announced to the crowd, "There's no such thing as bad acid, just acid that's made wrong." In 1969, LSD began to appear in microdots, and in 1971, on gelatin sheets of various shapes - dubbed "windowpane." The strength of individual doses swiftly decreased, and so did the purity of the average street dose."
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In Timothy Leary at Folsom Prison, a filmed dialog made for television but never broadcast, he amplifies: "I don't particularly recommend you take LSD. First of all, 99 percent of what they say about it isn't true." Ken Kesey also had occasion to reflect back on the acid scene in his recent book Garage Sale: "I can't really recommend acid, because acid has become an almost meaningless chemical. I mean, the first acid I took was Sandoz, given me by the federal government in a series of experiments (what now, Uncle? Don't give me that anti-American drug field bullshit: you turned me on ...!) and it was beautiful.
"With perhaps the exception of Owsley's work, every bootleg batch I've tried from then on down has been interesting, enlightening, agonizing, bizarre, etc., but never anything as pure."
Many other early trippers, including Alan Harrington (author of Psychopaths), Dr. Stanley Krippner (former head of Brooklyn's Maimonides Hospital Dream Lab) and Adam Smith (author of Powers of Mind in addition to his Wall Street best sellers), have also noted the decline in psychedelic use and linked it with the purity crisis."
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Thus, chromatography, the highly refined procedure that the organic chemist uses to isolate specific chemicals, is the key process by which impurities may or may not be removed from he eventual LSD crystal.
A passage from Psychedelic Chemistry, by Michael Valentine Smith:
There is a great deal of superstition regarding purification of psychedelics. Actually, any impurities which may be present as a result of synthetic procedures will almost certainly be without any effect on the trip.
If there are 200 micrograms of impurities present... and few compounds will produce a significant effect until a hundred to a thousand times this amount has been ingested. Even mescaline, which has a rather specific psychedelic effect, requires about a thousand times this amount."
"With perhaps the exception of Owsley's work, every bootleg batch I've tried from then on down has been interesting, enlightening, agonizing, bizarre, etc., but never anything as pure."
Leary's first quote in article, maybe I'm misunderstanding:While it's interesting to read big advocates of LSD, considered they'be 'been there done that' and essentially got the t-shirt many a time,
Experienced what I consider real LSD once (no bitterness, fast onset) and it was amazing. But ONLY once, so I have no way to compare. Everything afterwards has been bitter and had a 1hr30minute comeup+Low doses definitely aren't a way to judge dirty acid from my experience but it's each to their own
Well he is right in that 99% of what they say about it isn't true, doesn't take much more than this thread and stupid myths such as acid being stored in your back/orange juice boy/etc to realize that like all drugs there is a lot of rubbish misinformation out there. However as I said when Leary has said that quote he's in prison (got the tshirt), it's well after all the studies at University, etc and after many run ins with the law, is it any wonder he isn't playing the big advocate when someone's controlling his release? Think this was the 70s when he was in Folsolm so it is a few years on.
Hope you have luck finding some Lucy soon!
Ismene. I notice you do not show enough concern in making your statements factual. http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dob/dob_journal1.shtmlAnd until very recently there hasn't been any other drug but LSD active at blotter dosage.
I do not think the "scientific method" has been around THAT long.It's called the scientific method and it was created by thousands of the smartest people on earth over thousands of years of trial and error.
Just from knowledge I have from reading this thread alone, that 40% of a tab can be iso-LSD and they are active at doses greater than 500 micrograms.I knew that someone would mention TOMSO at some point
It's not the same though. It's active in its own right.
Shulgin said:d-iso-LSD shows no psychological changes at an oral dose of 4 milligrams; l-LSD none at up to 10 milligrams orally; and l-iso-LSD none at 500 micrograms orally.
I had never considered this but it's actually a really good point. What if the stuff we're describing as "clean-feeling" actually feels that way because of impurities.If any active impurities are present then they're just as likely to make the experience BETTER rather than "dirtier".
Ismene. I notice you do not show enough concern in making your statements factual. http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dob/dob_journal1.shtml
Other people have told me your statements are notoriously false.
Why do you do this? Are you just here to pick sides and copy/paste?
(Many times you have only repeated what LSD Cruiser said to make "points".)
I do not think the "scientific method" has been around THAT long.
Just from knowledge I have from reading this thread alone, that 40% of a tab can be iso-LSD and they are active at doses greater than 500 micrograms.
Looks like he only assayed it up to 500ug and noted no activity.d-iso-LSD shows no psychological changes at an oral dose of 4 milligrams; l-LSD none at up to 10 milligrams orally; and l-iso-LSD none at 500 micrograms orally.
The only time I tried different LSD was back in the day with Professor Hoffman at Sandoz. This would have been about 1958. It was very pure and clean like a mountain stream. It was known as alaskan thundercock. That was the last batch - Hoffman said it was secret and he would never make it again.
Ismene. Other people have told me your statements are notoriously false.
Oh, I get it, you're someone who disagreed with me months ago and having nursed a grudge ever since you've rejoined with a different username determind to "get your own back". Give it a rest man, it's not worth the effort.
The point I made is perfectly factual, until recently the only drug active at blotter level was LSD. There's been DOM and DOB yeah but they're even rarer than acid.
That's not what Shulgin is saying. Read it more carefully.
Looks like he only assayed it up to 500ug and noted no activity.