that says lack of oxygen causes brain damage (that's a no brainer). the opioid itself does not cause damage to the brain. as in brain+opi does not equal brain damage. brain-oxygen=brain damage.
^But if brain+opi = brain-oxygen, doesn't that mean brain+opi=brain damage?that says lack of oxygen causes brain damage (that's a no brainer). the opioid itself does not cause damage to the brain. as in brain+opi does not equal brain damage. brain-oxygen=brain damage.
the drug itself is not producing toxicity related brain damage is my argument.^But if brain+opi = brain-oxygen, doesn't that mean brain+opi=brain damage?
I only skimmed through the posts quickly and didn't read the studies as I don't have time right now, but that's what I could make of (atleast the first page) of replies.
K so I didn't read thru this whole thread, someone may have already pointed this out, but I swear this is untrue. Yes using the next week will cause more damage, but I mean the part about smoking pot at the same time making it worse. It has been proven in studies that marijuana is neuroprotective in combination with ecstasy because it lowers brain temp, allowing for less damage to occur.Abuse is known to cause the ecstasy dip and if you ignore the signals and do it again the next week, you are badly damaging your brain.
If you abuse other drugs at the same time (like pot or what ever), you make it worse.
^But if brain+opi = brain-oxygen, doesn't that mean brain+opi=brain damage?
I only skimmed the thread as well, but it looks to me like what they're talking about is overdose-induced, short-term oxygen deprivation, and it only stands to reason that one might suffer a bit of oxygen deprivation when, y'know, one's overdosed and hence not breathing at all... so, no surprises there.
It appears to be mentioned quite a few times throughout the thread & articles. Overdoses leading to total oxygen deprivation could cause far more brain damage, obviously.Short term oxygen deprivation from non-fatal opiate overdose is known to cause some of this cognitive decline. But research from the prescribed heroin services shows that injected heroin at doses not considered "overdoses" can cause a short (5 - 30 minute) drop in blood oxygen saturation to levels that could cause some degree of brain and organ damage over time.
the drug itself is not producing toxicity related brain damage is my argument.
^ Interesting... anyone here sleep with the covers over their heads? I'd be interested in seeing the research there as well, and I'd be willing to bet that a drop in blood oxygen saturation could be measured under those circumstances as well. In fact, there could be a whole slew of different behaviors/activities that we may not even realize or think much of that, nonetheless, cause a drop in blood oxygen saturation.
I'm just not ready to make
the leap that opiate abuse = brain damage. It doesn't look to me like anyone is ready to make that leap yet anyway.
the drug itself is not producing toxicity related brain damage is my argument.