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What are the real dangerous drugs?
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Someone already said it. The drugs you need to stay away from are the drugs that YOU specifically have an uncontrollable craving for. This includes weed for a lot of people. I myself use it way too often and I'm not gonna sit here and say it hasn't held me back in some form/fashion. Then again, it has also helped me in countless ways. If I were to answer this question based off what gives the worst withdrawals? Opiates, benzos, alcohol, cigs, amps. The physical withdrawal from amps may not quite be on the same level of the other stuff, but it certainly effects your ability to feel completely normal without it. But yea, there isn't a real solid answer for this. Something that each individual has to assess and figure out.
Wayne Gretzky
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Alcohol no doubt. The way i behave while overconsuming i terrible and alot of people are actually worse than me =)
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Anything but weed. Fentanyl and PMA are both particulary bad.
I've often pondered this question. I've been reading a lot of the answers and many of them point to drugs that are not even widely abused. Avoid heroin, crack, and meth. I would not try any of those drugs even once.
For that matter, I consider the whole class of opiates or opiate-like drugs to be a very bad idea for use on a regular basis. These drugs are very addictive and very pernicious. The worst part is heroin addicts never recover full functionality. Even if they get totally clean, they're often beset with long lasting problems such as depression and low libido. Heroin addicts give true meaning to the term "junkie."
In the world of drugs, there is a clear dichotomy between uppers and downers -- that is, between stimulants and depressants. Physical addiction is the epitome of addiction, writ large. This is a veritable problem that manifests with just about any downer including alcohol, barbiturates, benzodiazepines and opiates. That reminds me; I would never try barbiturates.
I'm a big fan of stimulants, so why would I never try meth or crack?
I believe there is no safe way to use meth. "Normal use" easily escalates and becomes disruptive to one's structure and routine. Strictly speaking, one recreational dose of meth will have a person amped up for 12+ hours. Allot eight hours for sleep. That leaves four hours or less for eating and working... It's manifestly unsustainable. Meth has been linked to Parkinson's; it's known to be neurotoxic. Also, meth addicts (habitual users) who get clean struggle with intense psychological effects (namely cravings to use again) which linger long after cessation of use. Meth addicts are known to self-destruct and engage in activities (esp. while abusing for several days, aka "tweaking") that are highly dangerous to one's safety and well-being.
In general, cocaine use can cause sudden death, especially in high doses and for those with preexisting cardiac abnormalities. Although powder cocaine is cardiotoxic, crack cocaine is more habituating and damaging to the lungs and heart. It's prone to abuse, and when it's abused, it has damaging health effects on various organs.
As stimulants go, meth and crack almost invariably lead to the abuse of downers. The concomitant use of uppers and downers leads to a more recalcitrant form of physical addiction.
For that matter, I consider the whole class of opiates or opiate-like drugs to be a very bad idea for use on a regular basis. These drugs are very addictive and very pernicious. The worst part is heroin addicts never recover full functionality. Even if they get totally clean, they're often beset with long lasting problems such as depression and low libido. Heroin addicts give true meaning to the term "junkie."
In the world of drugs, there is a clear dichotomy between uppers and downers -- that is, between stimulants and depressants. Physical addiction is the epitome of addiction, writ large. This is a veritable problem that manifests with just about any downer including alcohol, barbiturates, benzodiazepines and opiates. That reminds me; I would never try barbiturates.
I'm a big fan of stimulants, so why would I never try meth or crack?
I believe there is no safe way to use meth. "Normal use" easily escalates and becomes disruptive to one's structure and routine. Strictly speaking, one recreational dose of meth will have a person amped up for 12+ hours. Allot eight hours for sleep. That leaves four hours or less for eating and working... It's manifestly unsustainable. Meth has been linked to Parkinson's; it's known to be neurotoxic. Also, meth addicts (habitual users) who get clean struggle with intense psychological effects (namely cravings to use again) which linger long after cessation of use. Meth addicts are known to self-destruct and engage in activities (esp. while abusing for several days, aka "tweaking") that are highly dangerous to one's safety and well-being.
In general, cocaine use can cause sudden death, especially in high doses and for those with preexisting cardiac abnormalities. Although powder cocaine is cardiotoxic, crack cocaine is more habituating and damaging to the lungs and heart. It's prone to abuse, and when it's abused, it has damaging health effects on various organs.
As stimulants go, meth and crack almost invariably lead to the abuse of downers. The concomitant use of uppers and downers leads to a more recalcitrant form of physical addiction.
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^^^^^
All of the above youve mentioned are dangerous, especially stimulants IMO.
Opiates are used in hospitals to prevent pain after surgery, at the doctors office for all kinds of pain, etc.......
I've never heard of any doctors handing out coke/meth or crack for pain or to help someone thru a medical condition, so I would hold street stimulants as very dangerous that shouldn't be messed with, although everything you mentioned above has been written & lab tested, etc for years & the public knows what can happen if someone dives in full force.
Public doesn't know anything about research chemicals because they are fairly new & the ingredients are always changing with new names for different batches.
Its gonna get worse for RC's & people ingesting them.
I've taken RC's twice in my life & got sick really bad. Advertising rat poison or whatever is in this crap as Molly will kill people.
All of the above youve mentioned are dangerous, especially stimulants IMO.
Opiates are used in hospitals to prevent pain after surgery, at the doctors office for all kinds of pain, etc.......
I've never heard of any doctors handing out coke/meth or crack for pain or to help someone thru a medical condition, so I would hold street stimulants as very dangerous that shouldn't be messed with, although everything you mentioned above has been written & lab tested, etc for years & the public knows what can happen if someone dives in full force.
Public doesn't know anything about research chemicals because they are fairly new & the ingredients are always changing with new names for different batches.
Its gonna get worse for RC's & people ingesting them.
I've taken RC's twice in my life & got sick really bad. Advertising rat poison or whatever is in this crap as Molly will kill people.
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AMEN!
Research chemicals are the best thing that happened to us! Finally we get the good stuff!
Hell people selling "speed" dont even know whats in it, is it amphetamine at all? They hope, and why the hell is there ether in there? Any research chemical would atleast sell the final product not half way to make money on putting acetone equivilant in your nose. For some reason ether is ok but acetone they wont put in their nose?
RC RULES! Though, I might add... I love coke.. To bad noone has it... If they had - I would buy it! I conbverted to RC because all the "real drugs" are pissed out into nothing other than 99% bullshit with a hint of what you hope it should be...
By the way, who said ampetamine was organic... hmmm... hmm.... valium? hmmm... all theeese benzos, groing on trees?
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I forgot, the thread...
Heroin I always seen as a bad one! Also I would add methamphetamine given you get pure stuff - it will eat you alive unless you dont get what you pay for so you will ruin yourself. Theese are the two drigs I know I would avoid.
By drugs I means drugs that are supposed to give you a positive experience, MCPP and stuff exists out there but as they have no positive sales pitch I do not mention theese. Also - you try them once and you do not need to worry.
Heroin I always seen as a bad one! Also I would add methamphetamine given you get pure stuff - it will eat you alive unless you dont get what you pay for so you will ruin yourself. Theese are the two drigs I know I would avoid.
By drugs I means drugs that are supposed to give you a positive experience, MCPP and stuff exists out there but as they have no positive sales pitch I do not mention theese. Also - you try them once and you do not need to worry.
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Just on basis of potential for overdosing, I would have to point to weed as the least dangerous. Other than that, the vast majority of drugs legal and illegal have those overdose and general physical addictive concerns.
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I mean, if you are referring to dangerous as in the sense of addiction potential then: crack, heroin, meth.
But honestly I think it seems that these research chems and "legal highs" are taking the cake on the dangerous factor as far as deaths and dereliction
But honestly I think it seems that these research chems and "legal highs" are taking the cake on the dangerous factor as far as deaths and dereliction
deltakappamu
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oh yea- I forgot alcohol... good one
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Clozapine. 8)
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PMA is more of a poison not drug,never ever heard anybody taking it knowing what it is
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is crystal meth really that dangerous?people i know in uk think this is the worst you can be on..
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Agree! For some reason, I just could never get over the needle thing, therefore I was associated heroin as the big no-no. Although, coke nearly killed me one night. Thank God I was a broke MF and couldn't afford more. I'd be dead for sure! Oh and Meth, OMG! Have you seen the teeth on serious Meth-heads? Pretty damn scary! I'll stick with my pills thank you.
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In my opinion its methamphetamine .
Everybody is distinctive. Most individuals are fine with liquor and porn, not me. Yup, porn. That poop decayed my cerebrum, demolished my charisma, yet the high I got from it was as compelling as coke. Assuming that individuals delight in it then God favor 'em, its only not for me. I additionally have an issue with chocolate. I'll consume it work I'm broken down.
There's no answer to the question "What are the real dangerous drugs?". What do you mean "real" dangerous? Most dangerous? Even that is going to elicit a ton of subjective responses as we've already seen.
Some drugs are dangerous in the sense that a single fuck up can kill you - this includes opiates and particularly fentanyl and its analogues.
But any drugs can be dangerous - including weed. A high school friend of mine who I used to smoke up with SEVENTEEN YEARS AGO is exactly the same now as he was then. When I and the others in the crew started smoking less and eventually stopped as we got jobs and travelled and did stuff, my buddy just kept smoking and it caused an arrested development to the extent that when I see him, he still talks about high school stuff like it was yesterday and he hasn't done anything with himself. He's still hung up on a high school girlfriend - who he broke up with while we were in high school. Over 18 years ago. It saddens me to say it, but he's wasted his adult life and I don't see him catching up anytime soon.
So apart from the potential instant death drugs (IV opiates, for instance), the danger of a drug depends on the person taking it.
Also: I disagree with the blanket statement that RCs are the most dangerous things around. My experience with them has always involved good sources, consistent experiences, very reasonable prices. Like "classic" drugs, it comes down to your source. Heroin I've bought off the street has given me radically different experiences and reactions - suggesting it was cut with all kinds of shit - and costs a fucking fortune. Same with speed/meth.
The fact is that most people don't know all of the contents in their drugs, whether it's an RC or something bought from a dealer. So I don't think that all RCs are inherently more dangerous than 'classic' substances.
Some drugs are dangerous in the sense that a single fuck up can kill you - this includes opiates and particularly fentanyl and its analogues.
But any drugs can be dangerous - including weed. A high school friend of mine who I used to smoke up with SEVENTEEN YEARS AGO is exactly the same now as he was then. When I and the others in the crew started smoking less and eventually stopped as we got jobs and travelled and did stuff, my buddy just kept smoking and it caused an arrested development to the extent that when I see him, he still talks about high school stuff like it was yesterday and he hasn't done anything with himself. He's still hung up on a high school girlfriend - who he broke up with while we were in high school. Over 18 years ago. It saddens me to say it, but he's wasted his adult life and I don't see him catching up anytime soon.
So apart from the potential instant death drugs (IV opiates, for instance), the danger of a drug depends on the person taking it.
Also: I disagree with the blanket statement that RCs are the most dangerous things around. My experience with them has always involved good sources, consistent experiences, very reasonable prices. Like "classic" drugs, it comes down to your source. Heroin I've bought off the street has given me radically different experiences and reactions - suggesting it was cut with all kinds of shit - and costs a fucking fortune. Same with speed/meth.
The fact is that most people don't know all of the contents in their drugs, whether it's an RC or something bought from a dealer. So I don't think that all RCs are inherently more dangerous than 'classic' substances.