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Using masturbation as an escape from depression

I guess this is a valid hypothesis OP..after all it does release dopamin/endorphin as well as the sleep hormone(wich name eludes me atm) after you achieve orgasm..so again theres something to this..
 
Maybe there is no hard and fast rule (haha no pun intended :D ) - masturbation could benefit some/many but not suit others. Without evidence, it's all just opinions :) I'm with PA here, I must say, but some people also like celbiacy. Personal choice :)

If it feels good and is helping you, then carrying on sounds good, but if you feel it is detrimental to your life then maybe it doesn't suit you. Doesn't mean it is bad for everyone :)
 
TTZ234 said:
the sleep hormone(wich name eludes me atm)
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Melatonin?


copelandia. said:
I'm going to be unpopular here, but I totally agree with everything SS has said...
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Everyone is entitled to their opinion mate :)
....it's just how some people put theirs forth, that is sometimes an issue ;)
 
its pretty natural and effective dude . check this out lol http://curetogether.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Screen-shot-2011-05-03-at-3.41.03-PM.png <------ it shows how popular is compared to other ways people use to calm down the blues

i dont personally do it however . When i feel depressed, which i often do, i have zero sex drive .
idk why but thats how i find myself . . . unless i have one of my "im gonna get fit" breakouts where i go hard at the gym for one week giving up the next week cause im lazy lol. But that one week i'm exercising i feel so much more positive and also i have a huge sex drive .
 
Is there anyway i can lower my sexual frustration.

I really find it hard to even get a gf or whatever, i dunno i just do, ive been alone for a year now.
But i am easily going at this twice a day, and im still not satisfied i still want to masturbate more,
how can i decrease this urge? i wish there is a way
 
You could try exercising maybe? Get the endorphins pumping and get out your frustration that way..
 
masturbation can be an escape for a lot. there're far worse things a person could do. if you begin to feel guilty, evaluate the cause of guilt. society, upbringing, religion, etc.
 
effie said:
You could try exercising maybe? Get the endorphins pumping and get out your frustration that way..
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Okay ill try that,
my only trouble is my metabolism is at the high stage so i have to eat loads as it is lol.
 
I just wanted to say that this is one of the most awesome threads on BL right now.

That, and I've found that a balance between too much and not enough masturbation is key, for me at least. Not enough, and I start getting loopy (and way too horny), too much and I just get bored.
 
I really doubt that sex itself is responsible for the decline of society. To me, NEEDING sex seems like more of an issue than sex or masturbation itself. If somebody needs to get off every single day then that urge will control their behavior. I don't think it's any moral issue it's just about whether people want to make their own choices or allow impulses to decide for them. To me your choice of behavior isn't relevant; it's reason behind it that would matter more.
 
^ agree with this completely :)

It's the same as drug dependency - drugs themselves aren't the problem, the problem is when you need the drug and continue to take it despite it having a detrimental effect on your life..
 
I'm not saying masturbation is bad; it's good to do it once a day or less. But realize this: orgasm causes a refractory period, during which dopamine receptors are phosphorylated (bound to and essentially blocked off). Constant masturbation (every couple of hours or so) will constantly put you in a state of refractory periods, causing your brain not to feel dopamine as much, causing lethargy, amotivation, depression, etc.
 
If you're having a wank that often there are probably other issues at play though.
 
causing your brain not to feel dopamine as much, causing lethargy, amotivation, depression, etc.
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I can vouch for that, especially when i do it 3 times in a day. . . .

Its just a habit i guess ive done it nearly every day like , i dunno 6 years ?
 
In my opinion, I think masturbation is a waste of time.

"Procrastination is like masturbation, in the end, you're only fucking yourself."
 
I think im losing muscle mass from doing it so frequently,
Im going to try and pack it in, and do it a lot less, and focus on building myself up as from tommorrow
 
Personally I think even once a day is fine. But more than that is probably excessive. Why not trade one or two of your daily masturbation sessions for something else, like exercise, lifting weights etc?
 
I really do not believe that masturbation (or over masturbating) causes any negative repercussions whatsoever. I for one have never felt a "refractory" period I think thats largely medical mumbo jumbo where yeh they might have seen a .001% decrease in dopamine and it may have been clinically significant but just because something is clinically significant does not mean it is significant in real life. The only thing I EVER feel after sex or masturbation is a very brief feeling of feeling dirty followed by an extented period of moderate relaxation which has always felt like a good thing to me. You can snap w/e label you want on it to me it has never felt bad or negative in any respect. The feeling dirty is more like a moral thing where for a second I feel like god was watching me but I usually snap out of that pretty quick like I said.

And let me say a few more things about masturbation and "overdoing" it. When I am on cycle (testosterone) my sex drive goes through the roof. There is simply no way to explain what happens to my sex drive but I want to fuck everything that moves. A few years back I was seeing a girl and on cycle at the same time and we were doing it on avg 3times a day. Then I would have to find another 2-3 times when she was not around where I would turn on some porn or take a quick trip to the bathroom to release my man demons so to speak. On cycle I can't remember one time where I finished and felt bad or tired or depressed in anyway. In fact, I'd feel the same exact way I did before finishing, anxious and flush all over my body. But it was a positive type of feeling. Almost like a "glow" Id exude anytime I'm on cycle. It ALWAYS felt awesome to me. My voice would deepen and get raspy and seductive, my skin gets a bit redder and flush all over, and from what I can tell women can actually pick up on this "glow" because I get wayy more attention from females on cycle than off.

Anyway my point is it was very common for me to go 6 months at a time, masturbating or having sex up to 6 times a day. Although I haven't cycle in over 3 years. But even remembering friends who were on cycle I can't recall them every complaining about being depressed after sex. It doesn't even make evolutionary sense why we would be wired that way.

And my last point about masturbation and sex in general. This is the primary reason I can not see it as a bad thing almost under any context. For men the word "life" itself is almost synonymous to "sex". I derive almost my entire life ambition, my self worth, my masculinity, my goals to succeed and be well off, almost completely from my sex drive. I literally feel to some respect like the only reason I'm alive is just for women/sex or even the fantasy of sex through masturbation. It MOTIVATES ME to be a better person as stupid as it may sound. Women are the entire reason I get excited about anything in life.

I want to get a house so I can find a beautiful wife with a compatable personality who's body I can worship on a daily basis multiple times a day.
I want to go back to school and get my doctorate basically to bump up my mate value and be more appealing to females.

I want to get back into the gym and start competing again so I can have a sex life again.

I want to eat healthy and quit smoking so I can be more appealing to females.
I want to quit drugs so I can be more appealing to females.

It sounds good to pretend like I want to do this shit for myself but that is simply never true. And I will tell you why. When I have no sex drive, like when I'm on a high dose of opiates, I have NO AMBITION and NO MOTIVATION to do good or succeed at anything in life. But when I start tapering an opiate, or go on cycle, and my test goes up, all I want to do is better myself in one way or another so I can increase my means for finding sex.

I don't think a lot of guys will admit to it but sex is basically what we live for. Women can view it as a weakness or they can be flattered by the fact that many of us men live soley for your vaginas. And since masturbation is basically pretend sex for men I can never view it as a bad thing (I really shouldn't say never there are definitely ways it can go bad obviously). It always motivates me in some way. The first feeling I get after anytime I masturbate is a feeling of being dirty. I can't really explain it but the first few seconds that follow are "why do I feel so dirty"? Then a couple more minutes pass by and I think "man that felt AWESOME how can I rearrange my life so next time I can do it with an actual person?". And it has always been that way for me. I think its more the act alone that always makes me dirty. But once my heartrate slows down and the pants are zipped up like I said I become very motivated in my thinking in a positive way.

I can definitely see masturbation as being a bad thing but for the majority of healthy adults I think its the complete opposite. "Bad" to me was when I was 16 and living in my moms basement, would rail lines of speed than go run to the bathroom with a hustler magazine and it wasn't rare for me to be locked in that bathroom at some points for up to 6 hours "jerking off". It wasn't really jerking off though cause I could never finish. But THAT was definitely a maladaptive form of masturbation.
Another maladaptive form of masturbation would be standing outside someones house with your pants down. Those are like the only scenarious where I can ever see anything negative about it.

But man when I was a youngin and would see pretty girls in highscool the first thing I'd do is come home with a vision of some girls ass in my head and do the dirty. But those were the days of my life so to speak. It was that compulsive masturbation that made me realize why I wanted to live my life and become successful when I got older. And I can't think of another single motivational force that can create such change in a persons life. Sex drives us all. And things like rape I do not believe to be related at all to our sexdrive. I believe rape is something that stems 100% from aggression alone. And I do not think men who rape women are men that have no control over their sex drives. I think its more about demeaning the woman and objectifying her in a horrible way than it is about satisfying any type of natural desire.

Anyway I have ranted about this again. But masturbation is great. Sex is great. W/out it life would not be life it would be a boring mess of shit that noone would want to participate in. I also hate words like "slut" and "whore" and I think almost like some of the negative things said in this thread about masturbation that words like those are designed only to control and repress women. Same way saying masturbation is bad is a method of repressing men. Masturbation is basically the second best thing that exists in this world aside from sex. And with that said I think my position on this is pretty clear by now. Masturbate to your hearts content and if you find yourself getting depressed by it chances are that is just your morals fucking with you and not dopamine receptors. I just don't buy it cause I've masturbated far too much in my life the ONLY time I have experienced anything negative from it was when someone walked in or caught me doing it.
 
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