Can you share the online store? I don't want to buy from store that I find by Google and it's not legit. I'm down to 12.5 mg oxycodone and I took 0.25 mg of Xanax to help me sleep. I know these are probably low doses but I am being cautious. I have had to wean off gabapentin, Lyrica, duloxetine, Klonopin, Valium, Wellbutrin and now I am weaning off oxycodone. For some reason I like the small KVK pills better than the bigger ones from another pharma company that I cnt recall. Thanks for your help!!
Regardless of which avenue you choose (tapering, kratom, loperamide), I advise you to get stable at 12.5 mg oxy if you can. Go back up to 20 mg oxy if necessary, but it’s best to stay at the same dose for 1-2 weeks so that the physical withdrawal symptoms from reducing your dose can go away. This way you can see if what you’re doing is working, without guessing along the way. Otherwise you’ll take the Kratom, question whether you feel better, and then take oxy (plus a little extra ‘cause you’re overdue from the kratom mistake). Pretty quickly you’re up to 60mg oxy per day plus a $300/month Kratom habit and have no idea how you got there.
Using kratom or loperamide for more than a couple of days will significantly raise your tolerance for other opiates. Both options really do work but either one is a mistake if you really think you want to keep using low doses of oxy for pain management. Thanks to Kratom…. the last time I took oxy it was 150mg at a time, maybe 450mg per day, just to ‘relax’. And that was after 3 months without anything but kratom. It’s been a year or so since my last oxy and I’d bet it would take at minimum 100mg at one time to feel anything at all.
If you’re disciplined enough to taper off oxy… you might want to spend the next 6 months doing it that way and avoid lope and kratom.
Loperamide: It takes about 4 hours to start working. So if you wake up experiencing withdrawal symptoms from oxy at 8am and you take loperamide to stop the pain, you’ll be getting relief at noon. Lope dosage for you should be about 1/2 - 2/3 if your current oxy dose. So if you’re stable at 15mg per day oxy, then your daily loperamide dose would be 8-10 mg per day. Search for diarrhea medicine online. If it has loperamide and is 2mg pills, it’s all the same stuff and much cheaper in bulk. At my worst, I think I was taking 90x2mg pills per day. Break your daily doses into 2-3 per day.
Kratom: At your level, my guess is 2-3 grams every 6-8 hours. Capsules are easier to swallow than powder. Powder goes great with any sugary drink (OJ, gatorade, etc), but nothing carbonated!. Powder is a lot cheaper, particularly if you buy online in bulk. You can end up spending less than $0.50 per day if you get the powder online. Use a measuring spoon. One LEVEL teaspoon is 2-3 grams, so go to the dollar store and get a measuring spoon.
Just remember that tapering is a game of percentages, not milligrams. Dropping from 30mg to 20mg is a %33 reduction, not a 10mg reduction. Dropping from 10mg to 5mg is a 50% reduction, not a 5mg reduction. And that 5mg drop might actually feel worse than that 10mg one, because it’s all about how much you were taking yesterday (not last week) vs how much you are taking today. You have to recalculate at every reduction to taper properly.
Having said all that… if you can stick at 12.5 mg for 2 weeks, I say make plans for a week with ‘the flu’ and just cold turkey the last bit. You were tough enough to get off all of that other crap. Jumping off at 12.5 shouldn’t be unbearable. And in a week you’ll feel good enough to start living again. Just be sure to have enough Xanax to kill a small elephant. Sleep is paramount in withdrawals.