Recent discovery: Mpa dehydrates the body, subtle but it eats up body water quickly
i want to stop. i don't want to stop.
I feel you brother. It has this... psychological addiction element (hypothesis of mine, been suggested by others) that ... takes hold. It's like Ritalin, in a metaphorical sense. Never tried MPH, only EPH (decent, no that's no where near close, a extremely powerful, intense euphoric rush, bedridden for the duration, at 100mg by IV route I discovered, but only 30 minutes of rushing.... not worth the damage this substance has on my interior vein walls and likely a big handful of other unknown toxic effects).
My problem is I love to shoot. I'm an IV junkie. I'm stopping, not just MPA I'm out, everything. The reason? I'm over it, that's it. Doesn't interest me and MPA although does help me study I can't take it unless I do it my way.
Side comment: tried smack, it's nice, meh didn't really interest me, don't want to get hooked, I tried it out of curiosity
How are things going for you mate? We share a common goal/conflict of wanting to stop but not wanting to. My thoughts are this shit is a boost of adrenaline, nothing more. There are so many other ways to get a bit of adrenaline flowing, I'll point out the obvious "EXERCISE" and also the fun way "SEX", but I think this MPA is damaging the adrenaline production area of the brain, so since we are always getting it from MPA, our brain doesn't need to really produce much, if any. When we stop taking the drug, our brain then has low, very low levels of adrenaline being produced so it could be something as simple as:
1. Stop MPA
2. Jog every morning
It will suck big time while the brain heals itself, but I reckon it's worth a go.
which is the best roa? Are big differences between oral and sniffing? I ordered my first gram...
The "best" roa depends on what effects you are seeking from this substance. Oral and nasal have been answered for you. I can tell you what it's like IV and smoked in the meth pipe.
IV: For the rush? Or to keep you going i.e. re-dosing.
If you want to know what the rush feels like from injecting, your tolerance would be low so I would suggest 50mg will do the job. Don't go over 75mg, seriously. I can because I have a tolerance. The "rush" isn't that amazing anyway it's just the fastest and most efficient method of administering the drug. IV is something that once you try, even if it's "only once", is going to likely cause problems. Don't whack it.
But you make your own choices so if you IV for "keeping you going" then 10mg every 3 hours (for example) would probably do the job. But if you inject it, you will want to know what higher doses are like.
Don't whack it.
Pipe: Different again. It tastes like crap (the sulphur atom probably) but it comes on almost instantly, similar to injecting but it doesn't last as long, this is a good thing. You/anybody can potentially have a fun night on the pipe with a puff or two every hour or so, or whenever you feel like it. Or you could load a pt or two and use a jet flame, take in as much as you can hold, you'll get a feel for how "euphoric" this drug isn't.
Positive effects based on personal experience are:
- increased energy, alertness and focus
- sexual arousal (also listed on Erwd lol)
- elevated mental coordination i.e. organised -->
probably the best effect IMO and perhaps reason for why I find it so addictive
- improved cognitive function at low doses
- high doses will give you a massive hit of adrenaline
Now the bad ones:
- increased heart rate and blood pressure, much higher than other drugs e.g. meth
- loss of interest in food, very bad, eat big meal before dosing, protein bars while using
- tunnel vision effect, easy to get stuck on one task for hours, not breaking for meals or bathroom, forgetting about other tasks that probably are important and should be done
- urge to re-dose
- constipation is a neutral effect, caused by dehydration, which MPA accomplishes very well
These are the seriously dangerous negative effects I've observed:
- difficultly urinating
- dehydration, this drug dehydrates the body, fucking drink water, severe dehydration is lethal and can potentially kill you, you wouldn't even know it was happening but if you feel weak and drained by standing up... water, skull first glass you'll feel better, then keep a bottle of water next to you and a glass, I find it helps because I see the glass and drink from it, I see it empty so I fill it
- high risk of a binge happening, you will not want to come down because it gives you energy, but it doesn't, it's adrenaline not food, food is converted into energy
- with repeated doses the hypertension and tachycardia continue to rise, putting you at risk of heart attack (I've had two minor attacks using this substance)
- benzos are required if you are going to binge (advise diazepam), otherwise you'll die of a heart attack or stroke, avoid alcohol and caffeine because they both constrict blood flow (vasoconstrictors) and make you wanna piss a lot (diuretic)
- Ginkgo Biloba is a great vasodilator, but for complicated reasons that I wouldn't be able to describe here but in a nutshell we have surface veins and deep tissue veins, when one constricts the other dilates (it's cold, your body naturally constricts surface veins to help avoid body temp dropping, deep veins dilate to keep the warm blood flowing and us from freezing, personally MPA and Ginkgo Biloba actually make the increased heart rate and BP worse, stick with valium
also on the Ginkgo Biloba it's just bad to combine drugs/vitamins/extracts whatever to counter the effects of the other substance, some people take aspirin + Ginkgo + fish oil + benzos + alcohol and the list goes on
+ Vitamin E is one I would actually recommend, but only one or two with your first dose, search web, it's good for the heart
- eventually you'll find yourself on day five without sleep and 5 is fun, but day 6 the hallucinations start, paranoia will have already been present at day 2, day 7 (for males) is about the limit, after that your body crashes (collapses) in order to keep you alive, so crashing is ironically a good closing moment to a binge, then your body can start healing
That's all I got for now. And a final reminder: DRINK WATER
Received my two gram order of MPA yesterday. Looks good has a nice sheen to it.(matched up with descriptions Ive read in appearance)Today I did 5 mg allergy test intranasally followed later by 30 mg oral.Quite a burn to it nasally,pretty damn bitter tasting. Nice stimulation, not too edgy, headed to work so will see how functionality is affected.
A little euphoric but not a whole lot which is what I expected and wanted. Brought a small benzo dose in case i need to tone it down at work as well as two 30 mg MPA.shoulda brought another dose wih me oh well I got a benzo and only three hours of work left. I like this shit....haven't had any stims in quite awhile.
Will have to be cautious not to overdo it.This chemical mixes well with pyrazolam and cannabis and I really like it. Suits well for manual labor just take precaution to not overheat.And stay hydrated. Ull piss alot on it if you drink water but so much better to stay hydrated. I take ginkgo, ginseng and multivitamins. love how this shit makes me horny as hell.
Ginseng is ok (IMO) to combine with MPA.
Gonna edit this again so i dont double post. MPA+Pyrazolam+High Grade Cannabis= my current favorite high.And I usually just gelcap it but I like plugging it.. MPA doesn't feel too hard on the body but who really knows. It's definitely pretty vasoconstrictive and that's why I always use in conjuction with vasodilators and try not to push the cardio.(oftentimes unavoidable at work)I stay plenty hydrated while on it and would advise anyone using it to do so.Also the full short term and long risks concerning cardiotoxicity and neurotoxicity, and all the rest aernt really known yet as far as a I know. That said, anyone choosing to use this chem is taking great risk. But I'm sure most of you already knew that, just want to make sure I put that out there to anyone considering/already using who may not be aware.
I find they mix well with benzos, especally on comedown. However pyrazalom is the only benzo ive mixed with it. Lots of weed...this stuff makes me take bong hits like crazy.And using that too much wih MPA/for comedowns ends me up with a damn little benzo dependence.....fuck.
Never tried smoking up while on or coming down for MPA. What's it like?
Pyrazolam or Etizolam, probably Xanax as well, are really good with MPA because they reduce the anxiety and paranoia. The anxiety from high and repeated doses of MPA will make the heart rate and BP higher, so using the anti-anxiety benzos just mentioned help because you aren't anxious and worried. Panic, worry etc. raise the HR and BP, regardless of whether you're on drugs or not.
*** Ah don't wanna leave this one out, I've abused this substance for at least a year. It's caused damage to my vision, I have to wear glasses now. ***
Phatass said:
..will it systematically make me sweaty?
Phatass sorry mate, I almost missed yours. RDP89 replied and he's right, no "increased" sweating. I don't find it makes me sweat any more than normal, but MPA dehydrates the body considerably. Double your regular water intake. This RC is new, who knows what the fuck it's actually doing but it's got plenty of negative effects to be aware of and they outweigh the postive effects. Take a look below, I think I actually fucking nailed it. Or I'm way off, but what do you reckon?
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Aha! MPA, you're fucking nicked matey! Comments please. MPA literally uses our body water as fuel. Why not? MPA activates the gland which releases and gets our adrenaline pumping. Now consider working out at the gym. We are full of adrenaline during a workout, we also sweat, but the point is AFTER EVERY WORKOUT the body needs water.
>> MPA drinks our water, so we gotta drink double if we use the drug. It's why we don't sweat any more than we normally would like on speed or MDMA. Thoughts?
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"Drink water" 
