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The Mephedrone Thread (4-mmc)

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Thanks again P_D.

At least back a year or so ago when we were getting (half) decent pills in Adelaide, nearly all large quantities smelt some what like aniseed.

(I could never really pick the smell personally, but my sense of smell is quite off, mephedrone smells like washing powder to me.)
 
Thanks again P_D.

At least back a year or so ago when we were getting (half) decent pills in Adelaide, nearly all large quantities smelt some what like aniseed.

(I could never really pick the smell personally, but my sense of smell is quite off, mephedrone smells like washing powder to me.)

When i first started doing mdma pills back in 99-2000 every single MDMA pill smelled of liqurious/aniseed which was a by product of safrole. It gave us a clear indication that the pill is awesome. The harder it was, the more it smelt the more professional it looked the better it was.

Now days they can fake the actives, add scent to pills and even a professional looking press can be a dud/fake pill. Wtf is goin on with this world?
There are just way too many people popping pills now days, we can all thank the uninformed pill poppers for all this because they keep buying crap pills which dont have any MDMA in them at all. Once ur used to a quality pill that averages 100-150mg MDMA / pill then u wont look back. Thats what i am used to and i expect that every time.
 
add scent to pills

I've no idea why anyone would do this. I agree with Hugs & Drugs, the only aniseed smelling pills I've come across have been complete duds, while the best have had no smell whatsoever. Adding the scent would put some people off.

This isn't a just recent thing either. There has also never been any guarantee of a professionally pressed pill being good. Although there may have been fewer duds 10 years ago they still existed.

But this has nothing to do with the topic of this thread, it just got me thinking.
 
i agree with sustanon, the best bics i ever took stank of safrole. Beige A/V's anyone?
 
*shrug* i remember that smell, i remember opening a bag of blue skys and gagging from the anise smell ... ahh *chills*
 
Sorry if this has already been covered, i've read a few pages but long thread...

Does anyone really know anything about the health risks yet.. I remember reading somewhere that it could be quite bad for the heart??

Also is there much to all the paper articles or is it just bullshit... what are the risks of developing psychosis...the scrotum story seemed like a bit much ...
 
To all those posters who were reporting being raided a few weeks back; how did things turn out? What were you charged with?
 
First youth convicted for new party drug
By Larine Statham

A Darwin teenager who ordered a dangerous new party drug over the internet has been sentenced to six months' alternate detention.

Magistrate John Lowndes told the Darwin Youth Justice Court on Monday the case, which is understood to be the first of its kind in Australia, was "by no means an easy sentencing exercise".

The 16-year-old boy, who cannot be named, is the first juvenile in Australia to be charged with importing 4-methylmethcathinone in powder form.

Dr Lowndes told the court the case was "very unusual" and "intrinsically serious".

The drug, also known as mephedrone, miaow and bubbles, remains legally available in several countries despite reports that it prompts acts of serious self-mutilation among some users.

However, in Australia, the drug from which mephedrone is derived is a prohibited substance.

Dr Lowndes said an adult who committed the same offence could expect to serve a jail term.

He acknowledged the boy had made some inquiries about the legality of the substance in Australia before trying to import it.

"It would appear you were selective with the information you acquired ... you used the information in your best interest," Dr Lowndes said.

Dr Lowndes said the boy, who is understood to own a small business, should be admired for his abilities at such a young age.

"But the court certainly disapproves of the way you applied your skills in this case."

In January, when the matter was first heard by the court, NT News reported that the boy ordered the drugs over the internet from a legitimate chemical company based in China.

He paid $8000 and was expected to pay a further $12,000 when one kilogram of the powder arrived, the paper said.

On Monday, Dr Lowndes said he gave the boy credit for his early plea and for being up-front about the fact that he intended to sell the drugs to his friends.

Making up to 5800 capsules per kilogram, and if sold for $10 each, the boy stood to make $58,000.

Convicted on all three charges, relating to the importation of drugs, money laundering and possessing false identification, the court heard the teenager did not profit from selling the drug because it was intercepted by authorities.

The court heard he had no prior criminal history.

He was sentenced to six months' alternate detention, preventing him from leaving his home without permission from corrections officers.

Should he breach the conditions, the boy will be required to spend a further 14 months in a Northern Territory youth jail.

Dr Lowndes said the court had a duty to ensure sentences handed down in such cases acted as a deterrent to other juveniles who may also consider importing the emerging party drug.

Part of the stimulant's appeal is its relative cheapness, with online advertisements for various forms of mephedrone offering the drug from $170 for 10mg.

Typically, mephedrone is mixed with caffeine, and the compound can take effect very quickly.

It affects the human cardiovascular system and users have experienced varying symptoms including palpitations, paranoia, anxiety, depression, insomnia, headaches and short-term memory loss.

Authorities have been aware of the recreational drug's emergence on Australian streets since 2008, but they concede little is known about mephedrone.

Late last year, there were reports from Sydney that one user tried to castrate himself and another severed half a finger using a kitchen appliance.

Source
 
I'm keen to hear what happened to the guys who bought a few grams only, what about that guy who bought via his work PC, with work as the delivery address?
 
He paid $8000 and was expected to pay a further $12,000 when one kilogram of the powder arrived, the paper said.


How does that work ?? somethings not right there...
 
That article steps on the toes of fiction by further relaying the bullshit london tabloid stories of self castration etc.

People who do these things, drugs or not - have serious mental problems. and drugs can not be labelled as the cause.

There has been little media coverage, and i daresay alot of people are steering clear of importing for the time being because the jacks are all over it.

The saga this drug has created is much akin to the G is an evil floor cleaner saga (at least on the governments watch) yet it has a much more positive outlook from the general drug taking public that seek to find a drug that will provide both stimulation and euphoria at as little cost to health as possible

Humans will inevitably keep trying to get smashed on stuff - and banning things like mephedrone, which - being caught in the net early, could ideally lead the way for government controls on party drugs, higher revenues and a whole plethora of positive outcomes if taken the right way.

I know sure as hell if i could buy a 4pk of meph caps at the local milkbar after providing my ID like ciggarettes i'd do that over purchasing some cut shit from a dealer.
 
it sounds like the judge took a fairly reasonable stance on the whole thing though, which is refreshing.
 
I was thinking last night about the need for an updated Australian BL thread regarding a person's rights if they are involved in a raid. I spoke to another BL member this evening and they suggested it before I could mention it.

I'll try finding an old thread we could add to.
 
You hear a knock. Not knowing that 4 or 6 cops are standing on the other side, you open it, to be met with a warrant. What's going to happen to you? What are they going to do, and how thorough are they?
1. The Entry
Expect 4-6 cops to be there. One will be in front, and will confirm your identity. He/She will then present a warrant. You say okay, and they come inside. Once in, they'll set up a video camera, and record you and the officer in charge as he tells you what's going on. The camera does not record the whole search, and will not come out again until the end of the search.
The cop will ask whether you have anything illegal in the house. Here you have two choices if you actually DO have anything in the house: you can either tell the truth, or lie your ass off. If there ARE any drugs in the house, I would recommend telling them unless they're damn well hidden... they probably *will* find them.
2. The Search
In general, theyre pretty damn thorough, seeming to average about 12 man hours for a search, whether that be 3 hours with 4 cops, 2 hours with 6 cops, etc. That gives them *a lot* of time to go through your house and admire your porn collection
Probably the key thing you can do is not to obviously fuck them around and be a smartass. The 12 hours average is for people that are courteous and try to at least *look* honest. If you fuck them around, they could tear the place apart.
THE HOUSE
In short, you are an *idiot* if you keep anything in the house - this is exactly where they expect it to be. They'll go through pretty much everything, even flipping through all your books, moving furniture, etc. This is where they epsnd the majority of their time. If you DO need to keep a drugs store, DO NOT keep it in your house. By the way, they'll also look in the roof.
THE COMPUTER
They WILL sit on your computer, go through logs (IE, ICQ, IRC, etc). That said, the majority of people on here are far better with computers than they are, so information hiding should not be much of an issue. Keep your histories short, dont use ICQ for ANY seedy purposes, dont keep any dodgy friends on your ICQ list (for their protection), NEVER log anything on IRC, and make sure you use a prograjm like 'Eraser' (free from www.dowload.com) to properly erase your deleted files - when you delete them normally they are not deleted, just hidden from your view. Also check out www.download.com for encryption programs, and a neat lil program called 'Camouflage', which encrypts and hides files into other files, leaving the changed file still working.
THE MOBILE PHONE
DO NOT have dodgy numbers on your phone - they will go through it, write down all the numbers on your SIM card, and investigate those people.
If you simply must have them, one thought is to leave them on the 'phone' phone book, but only have the main phonebook use the 'SIM' phonebook, thereby at least giving minimal protection to your seedy buddies.
THE BACK YARD
They'll check the back yard you holes recently dug, stones to turn over, etc. Theyll go through your garden shed. You get the idea. I would not recommend using either of these places.
AFTER THEY'RE DONE
They'll pull that camera out again, and film the officer in charge of the search concluding the search, and asking you on film if youre happy with their conduct.
3. Tips for avoiding prosecution and for coming out with your ass as intact as possible
DONT KEEP ANYTHING ON YOUR PROPERTY! This is the golden rule!
Dont lose your head and start babbling crap. Don't panic. They *will* corner you with anything they find in an attempt to make you give them names. If you fold and give your friends up you're a weasel and deserved to get raided anyway - this is how they probably got your name from someone else.
If you feel scared then always remember - cops are just like us, only less intelligent.
Never give your friends up.
Keep your story simple, and stick to it. If you keep adding to it, they'll know.
Keep an eye on them during the raid. They will be more than happy to plant something, and might move any dodgy things found into areas where they become more dodgy, eg. (for arguments sake) an old bag of pot into a recently used jacket.
If you keep your head, you'll be fine. If they manage to nail you, get legal advice. From the raids of friends, you *will not* come out any better if you just spill the beans and tell them the whole story.
Also NEVER,NEVER,NEVER.. Throw Anything *You* Dont
Want found Away!! This is how alot of Police Departments get their Warrants Signed, What happens is for whatever reason They Suspect you but dont Have Probable cause to Raid your Home. They have to Present some kind of Reason to have a Warrant Signed to Raid your Happy Home, So What They will Do is watch You and one of the Easiest ways to Obtain Evidence About you Is go through your Trash What Happens is They will Suspect you Then (Especially if you are slick and dont give them anything to go on at first!) They will Jump on the Garbage Truck with Mr Garbage Collector Guy Grab your Trash as if they are a Garbage Man, Then they will Put Your trash off to the Side Till they Get Down the Street Then usually there is an awaiting Police Car They throw Your Garbage in the Trunk and then Take it and Go through it and since Garbage *Will* have Stuff with your Name on it (Plus any Stems,seeds,and other Drug Paraphenella)Then they will have the Probable cause to Have The Warrant Signed by the Judge/Magistrate to Raid your Home also They May watch your House After the Warrant has been Signed and they Will Stop and search Anyone who Comes and Goes from your Property and They Can/Will Search Your Vehicles and Everyone who Leaves or Comes to your House!.


Done by Jakoz a few years back, but it gives you a rough guide.. will update it when ive talked to a few friends in law :)
 
Spunout... I go to post about methadrone/mephedrone and end up replying to my own post after all this time.

I had a lot of both of these recently in the UK. In moderation, they are AWESOME. However, I have serious questions about their toxicity for prolonged use, and suspect that they are significantly more dangerous than MDMA/meth/etc.

We had 6 people in our party. The nights that we had it were awesome. One of either methadrone or mephadrone (the more MDMA one... apologies but they are sold in pairs over there and I don't have time to research it and haven't kept up with BL) is the best and most intense drug that I have ever had.

However, there were enough side effects that I really believe that they're pretty harmful. One of our group had palpitations. Depression/etc for others, although that's to be expected for those used to pills. Lots of people had the sensation of 'dropping' suddenly. Most of us didn't feel right for a few days after heavy use.

The disturbing thing is that these symptoms didn't surface until after a day or two. As a previous meth user, I know the mindset that would keep people coming back day after day. Without any other evidence, my gut feeling is that this behaviour may lead to more health problems than most other drugs.

Be safe, people. Enjoy this one if you must, but it seems to have a higher toxicity and mortality rate from what I have seen than other drugs. Something to enjoy in moderation if you must.

In terms of dosage... at the rates that you need to consume it (and I'm not saying 'go for it'), I wouldn't be touching it at the prices that you'll be paying in Australia.

Jakoz
 
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Want found Away!! This is how alot of Police Departments get their Warrants Signed, What happens is for whatever reason They Suspect you but dont Have Probable cause to Raid your Home. They have to Present some kind of Reason to have a Warrant Signed to Raid your Happy Home, So What They will Do is watch You and one of the Easiest ways to Obtain Evidence About you Is go through your Trash What Happens is They will Suspect you Then (Especially if you are slick and dont give them anything to go on at first!) They will Jump on the Garbage Truck with Mr Garbage Collector Guy Grab your Trash as if they are a Garbage Man, Then they will Put Your trash off to the Side Till they Get Down the Street Then usually there is an awaiting Police Car They throw Your Garbage in the Trunk and then Take it and Go through it and since Garbage *Will* have Stuff with your Name on it (Plus any Stems,seeds,and other Drug Paraphenella)Then they will have the Probable cause to Have The Warrant Signed by the Judge/Magistrate to Raid your Home also They May watch your House After the Warrant has been Signed and they Will Stop and search Anyone who Comes and Goes from your Property and They Can/Will Search Your Vehicles and Everyone who Leaves or Comes to your House!.
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Done by Jakoz a few years back, but it gives you a rough guide.. will update it when ive talked to a few friends in law :)

(off topic)

Heh... it's funny how words get capitalised after a while. The original didn't have it. I guess someone thought something was important somewhere. ;)
 
We had 6 people in our party. The nights that we had it were awesome. One of either methadrone or mephadrone (the more MDMA one... apologies but they are sold in pairs over there and I don't have time to research it and haven't kept up with BL) is the best and most intense drug that I have ever had.

You may be talking about Methylone and Mephedrone as they are two of the more common research chemicals being sold in the uk
 
HA nice to see you back... :) It wasnt me doing the caps.. it was tj-e who copied it off you and i couldnt be assed going over it :) I just stole it from the archive..
 
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