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☛ Official ☚ The Big & Dandy Methoxmetamine / MXM Thread

That really shouldn't be surprising. DXM will cause a positive for PCP as well if you do too much.
 
boida said:
Compare for reference or just hi-res drug porn :p


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Right I am calling it here. MXM is the new king!
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This is what mine looks like too.

To update on my earlier post (I was the one saying maybe I didn't receive MXM,) I did. I ended up trying a 400 mg line, whoa was that too much. I ended up holing, or almost holing at least. It was very uncomfortable, not enjoyable unlike a wonderful K-hole. Afterwards, I was very nauseous. I find this stuff best when mixed with MXE and weed, it gives you a great body high! My doses are 250 mg snorted, and about 50 mg of MXE snorted, then smoke a little bit of weed and off I go!
 
Titrated up to 30 mg in 5 mg doses (snorted) over ~45 min and ended up feeling really nice. Very little dissociation, but just feeling very relaxed and maybe even a bit euphoric. Reminded me more of an opiate than of ketamine actually.
The effects were mostly gone after an hour and I then redosed with 30 mg. This brought a bit of dissociation similar to low dose ketamine, but didn't seem to bring as much "feel good" as the initial 30 mg.

I plan on going straight to 50 mg next time.

I wonder how safe MXM would be to combine with MDMA or methylone, as I really enjoy small bumps of ketamine with those.
 
Those who have had both MXE and MXM...if you could still source MXE would you stick with MXE until you can't? I want to try MXM but feel my MXE tolerance would get in the way, plus I'd like to keep getting it while I can. Just curious if those who have had both could say which they prefer.
 
DiZzyBonne said:
This is what mine looks like too.

To update on my earlier post (I was the one saying maybe I didn't receive MXM,) I did. I ended up trying a 400 mg line, whoa was that too much. I ended up holing, or almost holing at least. It was very uncomfortable, not enjoyable unlike a wonderful K-hole. Afterwards, I was very nauseous. I find this stuff best when mixed with MXE and weed, it gives you a great body high! My doses are 250 mg snorted, and about 50 mg of MXE snorted, then smoke a little bit of weed and off I go!
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400mg sounds like a lot. What's your tolerance like? I wouldn't advise such doses to anyone new to this stuff, start with low doses like 10-20mg and work up slowly to find your ideal dose. Partly because this is new and we don't really have any firm dosages set in place due to how much the tolerance of those who've tried it and reported back will vary, but also due to the fact that the isomers may vary between vendors (with the S-isomer presumably being stronger like with MXE and Ketamine, I'd assume).

Someone else has reported nice effects from 30mg so 400mg sounds crazy. Sounds like dosage is maybe similar to MXE or a tad higher, but not *that* much higher.
 
I doubt that they have taken the effort to separate the isomers. With ketamine it was already a meaningful process, and it was taken advantage of... but for MXE it sounded quite rare and I image with MXM it is the same.

Changed the thread title so that less people looking for the MXE thread may accidentally come here, and additionally to echo something a few people have said about this substance: it's not an MXE replacement or duplicate even if it is being marketed to fill the MXE gap in the market. It's apparently reminiscent of K but it is quite likely it should not be treated exactly like that either.
Best is to approach it as something unique in itself, needing a particular way to handle, with particular qualities and dangers.

Always be careful taking novel compounds, but if you do try it, help contribute to fitting that puzzle. :)
 
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we did it guise

:p

Sampled some of this recently! I have experience with MXE and 3-meo-pcp. I enjoy MXE the most. I have had a 2 week long +++ on very good quality MXE so I deeply respect these compounds and have become familiar with the subtleties between different arylcyclohexylamines.

As for MXM : So far... I am impressed. The dosing is higher than I expected . Not very visual unless I close my eyes. Then it gets beautiful.

It does feel similar to ketamine,as in it feels LESS serotogenic that MXE , and void of any of the speedy dopamine push. The same clean vibes, more internal visuals, less of that confusing MXE fun. No very trippyness, and I found it very relaxing, but that could be other things I ingested .

As for dosing.... please don't use me as a baseline or as a guide as to what YOU should dose . I think I may have had some confounding factors which allowed me to dose higher - I took bacopa today and strong opiates....

I was IV'ing around 80mgs. Its nice. No rush though. The visuals I am getting are funny, the white background of this forum had pink slow moving landscape-creture. :p

I'll report more as the research continues;will post mecke, marquis and madelin reageant test pictures tomorrow
 
I'm completely retracting my previous post. Whatever happened - It had to do with me and not the drug.

The MXM that I have doesn't dissolve into solution without heat, but with a little bit of heat - it's just fine. I stirred the fuck out of it and it wouldn't stop looking like milky water until I added heat, then it was 100% clear, left no bullshit in the spoon - it does seem very clean and fine to inject. I've done 2 shots tonight and it worked out just fine. I was even paranoid and careful about it and let the solution completely cool before I injected it, and it stayed a clear solution, didn't gel up or get all weird on me at all. I don't know what happened last time honestly...........I don't think it was the MXM that did anything, I think I fucked up the shot or some weird shit. I wasn't using my normal points - and I think that was 99% of the problem.

I was using a 1cc 30G Long - when I normally roll with 1cc 31G Shorts. I did 2 shots tonight to give this compound a real go around. I have a huge dissociative tolerance so I started at 100mgs. It's definitely a happy medium between Ketamine and MXE. It's a very gentle compound. I could have gone to sleep if I wanted to............Then about 1.5 hours later I decided to go a little further and see what's up - I IV'd 150mgs, it had a bit of a punch to it for me. I definitely had a K-Tarded moment trying to put all of my gear away, it made me laugh out loud - so I definitely was definitely feeling it. People who are not tolerant to Dissociatives - this will more than likely be a nice intro into what the Disco's are all about. I would imagine that someone less tolerant than myself would get some cool closed eye visuals and possibly some cool open eyed visuals or distortion.

For me, so far it's been more of just a feel good, depression reliever than anything psychedelic. I haven't 'noticed too much wonkiness or super interesting music appreciation like I get with MXE. The one downfall of this compound - to me personally - is the texture of it. The fluffiness reminds me of MPA almost, it has a clumpy, floury, type texture to it. 50mgs of MXE compared to 50mgs MXM - The MXM looks like 2-3 times as much. I used to enjoy both bumps and IV'ing MXE - I don't even think I could sniff 100mgs MXM. If it were equally potent as MXE - The fluffy texture wouldn't matter as much, because you would only need 25-50mg bumps and that would be doable, even with the fluff - but for me - I will never sniff MXM. It would take a STUPID quantity to get me even buzzed, and I wouldn't want to sniff that much of this compound. It's not a very enjoyable line to do, and it has way more of that Ketamine sting to it than the smoothness of MXE. I did try a few 40-50mg test bumps before I went to the Points. It does taste like Ketamine a lot though - which is cool with me - it just lacks the menthol cool of K.

If people are having good results taking MXM orally - I would stick with that if you don't IM or IV - and I DO NOT recommend ever giving that a try. Using Needles can be more addictive than the drugs you put in them to some extent. Anyways, I'm getting off topic. This compound is way less speedy than MXE - it's very chill and laid back. It may be Psychedelic or Cubistic for some people - that all depends on tolerance though. I would imagine for a novice - a good starting point would be 25-50mgs orally or nasally. The dose curve doesn't seem to be too steep. Tolerance does build quickly though. Duration is about 2-3 hours. Maybe longer Oral. I personally don't like taking drugs orally - I'm too impatient.

Where MXE makes me feel on point and on top of my game, ready to go find an adventure to get into - MXM makes me feel like if I smoked Dissociative Weed if that makes sense. For me - It's quite lazy, I don't really know what to do with myself. I tried to watch a movie and couldn't pay attention. I tried to listen to music and almost fell asleep laying down in the dark with headphones on and eyes closed. It's an interesting molecule - I think a lot of people will like it quite a fucking bit. It's a very balanced version of both Ketamine and MXE.

My only complaint - it's a little weak for me, but at the same time, it's still fun and enjoyable. MXE is the get shit fucking done, go to work and function disco - MXM is the fucking chill and kick it with the homies and laugh at some dumb shit disco. It reminds of some good nuggets and a few benzos, with some trippiness. I'll always like MXE more - but MXM is definitely it's own thing - and it's pretty cool.

I hope this adds some insight. I think this is what a lot of people were hoping MXE or NEK were going to be. Ketamine is still way weirder and trippier. MXE is speedier and more visual and weird and just fucking space cadet status, MXM is their laid back little nephew. He just fucking kicks it all day and feels good.

The one thought I had as an ex-opiate abuser, current opiate maintenance user is - this stuff may really help make withdrawals bearable, because it is quite warm and fuzzy.

Quick Question.............Has anyone who IV's ever had what I mentioned happened? The barrel just filled up with blood super quick, all the way to the top when I registered and clogged. At the bottom of the barrel, between 0-15 units, the blood was super dark, and there was just like a little mini sized clump of gel textured, clotted blood. It was really weird. I've never had this happen with 31G Shorts, but sometimes, when I use a 30G Long or Short, this has happened to me a couple of other times. I know it's off topic - but it kind of trips me out. The other times it happened were with speed - never dissociatives. Any thoughts IV users?
 
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Mr. Meowfish said:
To anyone who plans on giving this stuff a go either IM or IV - I just had a really weird experience with it...

I put around 90mgs in a spoon, gave it a few stirs, it dissolved pretty well without any heat, but there was a little left at the bottom, so I bumped it with a lighter for a second - nice clean, clear solution. I tie off, put the point in, loosened the tie, pulled back to register the blood - this is where everything starts getting really weird....It registers and very quickly fills my point from 45-50 units to 90 units - I try and press the plunger because I'm in the vein - No go. The plunger wouldn't drop. I take the point out of my arm - try and squirt it out into my spoon first - still No Go, it clogged my syringe enough that it wouldn't even go out the end of the needle. I have a whole G of MXM - so I decide to just take the plunger out, and dump the solution out into a triple layered paper towel to inspect the solution. It was a pain in the ass trying to get it to come out - and near the the beginning of the barrel, between 0-15 units or so, the blood was quite dark and thick looking. No I did not hit an Artery - I've only had that happen once and I KNOW what that shooting pain is like. So I tap out the barrel and finally get the last thick, dark units to come out. There was a little dark, gel textured looking ball which was what had clogged up the point. I don't know what the fuck it was - but it seemed like the MXM gelled up in the syringe. That is the only conclusion that I can come up with.

Any thoughts on this? I feel like it was the MXM - once it cooled, it was like a glop in the syringe that instantly clogged it. And it's not like my gear sat around for 5 minutes - we're talking about like 45 seconds or a minute in between filtering, and about to shoot. I don't know if this compound should be injected. I don't want to scare anyone, this is just my experience...it was just very bizarre and not something that generally happens. Maybe the heat did something to it and if you just wait for it to dissolve, it's all good - but something just didn't seem right. It seemed to dissolve very quick and easy, mostly - and then it just got all weird. It was completely non injectable. Take this statement as you will. Just be careful out there...
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I've done about 5 grams of MXM via IM every time and I've yet to experience anything like you describe. It always dissolves very easily with a little heat applied and stays completely dissolved.
The only time I've had barrels/heads clog is from poxy Methoxphenidine and shit quality/cut Ketamine, but so far none of my MXM has behaved in this manner.

I'm thinking perhaps there were contaminents present that you may not of been aware of? Does your MXM appear similar to that of the picture that I posted a few posts back?

I'm no expert when it comes to IV'ing but one thing that springs to mind is if your head was clogged by the MXM, how did the blood manage to register in the barrel? Or do you think perhaps the blood coming into contact with the MXM through the head made it congeal on contact? Have you managed to successfully IV the MXM before or was this your first attempt?
 
Oh wow. MXM and weed are friends. Doesn't have that push that MXE gives, resulting in a very calm clear haze.

A feeling of fresh magic!

My first romp with it has left me perfectly whelmed. Hints of mxe and ketamine both, as others have mentioned. Ha, basically exactly what I was expecting. Thanks everyone who contributed before me, in agreement this one is a keeper to have in the family.
 
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Jesusgreen said:
400mg sounds like a lot. What's your tolerance like? I wouldn't advise such doses to anyone new to this stuff, start with low doses like 10-20mg and work up slowly to find your ideal dose. Partly because this is new and we don't really have any firm dosages set in place due to how much the tolerance of those who've tried it and reported back will vary, but also due to the fact that the isomers may vary between vendors (with the S-isomer presumably being stronger like with MXE and Ketamine, I'd assume).

Someone else has reported nice effects from 30mg so 400mg sounds crazy. Sounds like dosage is maybe similar to MXE or a tad higher, but not *that* much higher.
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I need about 350mg+ to K-hole on vial-dried ketamine, insufflated.

My typical MXE dose is between 50-60mg.

On MXM, I need a minimum of at least 200mg insufflated in order to even feel anything, but once I mix it with MXE, it feels great. Top it off with weed, and it feels like a dissociative MDMA lol.

I hate snorting MXM, I love snorting K. Maybe the stuff I have isn't MXM? I dunno, but it definitely is a dissociative. I wish I could discuss sources here, because I'm curious as to why my MXM is different than what everybody else is talking about. Maybe I can take this to PM with someone? Anybody care to help me out here?

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Getting to know the subtleties and intricacies of this one, of which there are many. Experience with other arylcyclos comes in handy when testing the waters. It is soft spoken magic. Sophisticated?
I did go the IV route, I had to peak behind the curtain, after testing nasal (didn't like)and oral (better).
I actually got a full on ringer on one shot. Brought me back!

I like how it is cooler than MXE, but not as cold as ketamine. A nice 'temperature'!
 
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Hello everyone. Tried it last night. Previous photo looks like mine too. As for effects I felt it is the sweet spot between ketamine and mxe.

I did 30 + 20 + 20 + 30 in 1 hour.
Let's say 100mg = 40mg mxe
As potency regarding effects I can say that. But my question is, whould it make a difference if I do 50 + 50 or directly 100mg? I'll be happy if someone enlighten me in this.

Because of the comments going around lately about a certain vendor I was a little bit scared to not feel anything, but it didn't end like that. But for a lightweight like myself, the dose didn't seem ok either.
 
^ Which ROA was that?
So... Can we conclude oral>nasal? Has anyone tried sublingual?
To the ones testing MXM: Please describe the effects a little more in detail!
 
I just thought I would chime in that I did about 400mg's of this last night, 100mg's sublingual, 300 nasal, had about 5 beers and I definitely felt like it was half way between k and mxe. I have a huge k tolerance but no mxe tolerance and I was jacked for 4 hours.

Here is the downside, I went to sleep last night at about 4 am and woke up today at about 3 pm with insane heart palpitations, I had a new e-cig mod in the mail so I ran to my mailbox cause it's freezing out and I felt like I was going to pass out when I got back, and my head was pounding. I imagine my blood pressure was through the roof and I'm pretty athletic. I have since eaten 3 bananas and now I'm good. Don't know what that's all about. I think I'll just stick to k.
 
The tolerance between the different arylcyclohexlamines does not cross over completely. After doing 800mg MXM over two days I got more wonked than I expected when I switched to MXE yesterday after a week tolerance break.
 
vortech said:
The tolerance between the different arylcyclohexlamines does not cross over completely. After doing 800mg MXM over two days I got more wonked than I expected when I switched to MXE yesterday after a week tolerance break.
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Agree with that. There are a lot of different glutamaergic receptors!

woke up today at about 3 pm with insane heart palpitations
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Worrying... Doses ketamine, MXE or other dissociatives have this side effect on you?
 
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