Don't know because never tried pcp.
I don't love the name 'CanKet' mostly because it's misleading. Ketamine is 3-Chloro-2'-Oxo-PCM, right? And if you remove the chlorine atom you get deschloroketamine (DCK). Put a fluorine atom on the 2-position and you've got 2F-DCK which is also called O-PCM. In my mind, these are ketamine-class drugs, defined by the double-bond oxygen on the cyclohexyl ring + a single-carbon methyl group – the source of the M in O-PCM. If instead of the methyl group, one makes that a two-carbon ethyl chain, we arrive at the drug O-PCE. Now we've got the scaffold for what I think of as "__oxetamine"-class drugs. This includes MXE, FXE, and HXE among others.
Me, too! Also, 3-HO-PCP, which I might even prefer at times to 3-MeO-PCP, though they're both similar to one another and to PCP…
It does? I think you might need to seek new sources then… Compared to other drugs, designer dissos are somewhat rare and rather niche in terms of popularity. Most ppl avoid dissos with the exception of Ketamine, mostly I think owing to the bad reputation PCP has garnered over the years. But if you know where to look, they abound. In certain circles, designer dissos are all over the place, and there are a metric shit ton of them.
That's correct, 2-Fluoro-O-PCE, aka "n-ethyl-2FDCK". And in my mind, given that FXE is 3-Fluoro-2'-Oxo-PCE, the nickname I prefer for what has been labelled Can-Ket is 2FXE, and what's called FXE could be called 3-FXE to distinguish them. Purportedly 5-FXE is a worthwhile compound, too. I guess alternatively we could call 3-FXE "meta-FXE", which would make 2-FXE "ortho-FXE" and by extension, 4-FXE would be "para-FXE"… Ow, I think my brain hurts now, lol
Um… yeahhh, no. It doesn't really hold up to PCP. It has more in common with Ketamine and MXE than it does PCP and its 3-oxygen-moiety-substituted analogs (e.g.: 3-MeO-PCP, 3-HO-PCP). Generally I feel like dissos are either stimulating or sedating – e.g. Ketamine is sedating while PCP is stimulating. 2FXE is of the sedating variety. I was expecting it to be more like MXE and found myself disappointed when it came up short, so I shelved it for months until a friend asked me to try it. He loved it and it convinced me to re-appraise it, this time with lower expectations. I was pleasantly surprised that it's got its own charms and I consider the compound worthy of exploration. Higher doses can become mystical, even.
Hmmm, that's a bit subjective and hard to say; also depends on how you define mania. I think probably yes, just not as profoundly and easily as PCP and its close analogs. What's good about those drugs is they're so potent the average dose is quite small and this limits its potentially to damage the bladder as most of these dissos have the capability to do if abused. So something that's active @ 50 mg is going to deal out more damage potentially than something that's active around 8 mg just by sheer logistics and surface area geometry. Also, keep in mind that mania can be a dual-edged sword, so to speak. Mania is disinhibiting, and when inhibition is lowered, shit crappens.
It mixes really well w/psychedelics, in my opinion, and that's using it before, during, and after the trip. On separate occasions I've mixed it with LSD, DMT, Psilacetin, Colour, 2C-B, Allylescaline, and 25B-NBOH all with much success. It's not a show stopper, 2FXE, not the main course entree for the evening, as it were, but it's definitely a 'tasty' little tapas a la carte drug with the ability to pique a psychedelic experience / entheogen session. In summary, keep your expectations low and you might be pleasantly surprised. At least, that was my experience and proverbial $0.02. YMMV, and good luck! Hope this helps
I greatly appreciate the depth of your response! Assuming a dose to be 50mg, I'll have enough on hand for about 20 uses, though I tend to lean towards more stimulating as opposed to sedative experiences. Perhaps this will mix well with a particularly stimulating psychedelic like DOM or DOB, or instead perhaps with an empathogen like you'd mentioned.I don't love the name 'CanKet' mostly because it's misleading. Ketamine is 3-Chloro-2'-Oxo-PCM, right? And if you remove the chlorine atom you get deschloroketamine (DCK). Put a fluorine atom on the 2-position and you've got 2F-DCK which is also called O-PCM. In my mind, these are ketamine-class drugs, defined by the double-bond oxygen on the cyclohexyl ring + a single-carbon methyl group – the source of the M in O-PCM. If instead of the methyl group, one makes that a two-carbon ethyl chain, we arrive at the drug O-PCE. Now we've got the scaffold for what I think of as "__oxetamine"-class drugs. This includes MXE, FXE, and HXE among others.
From this nomenclature we could choose to think of Ketamine-class drugs as "__oxmetamine"-class drugs, though this is admittedly a bit confusing if you're not paying close attention. And let's say you remove everything from the nitrogen (the amino functional group). This would be deschloronorketamine or DCNK.
Clear as mud?
Me, too! Also, 3-HO-PCP, which I might even prefer at times to 3-MeO-PCP, though they're both similar to one another and to PCP…
It does? I think you might need to seek new sources then… Compared to other drugs, designer dissos are somewhat rare and rather niche in terms of popularity. Most ppl avoid dissos with the exception of Ketamine, mostly I think owing to the bad reputation PCP has garnered over the years. But if you know where to look, they abound. In certain circles, designer dissos are all over the place, and there are a metric shit ton of them.
That's correct, 2-Fluoro-O-PCE, aka "n-ethyl-2FDCK". And in my mind, given that FXE is 3-Fluoro-2'-Oxo-PCE, the nickname I prefer for what has been labelled Can-Ket is 2FXE, and what's called FXE could be called 3-FXE to distinguish them. Purportedly 5-FXE is a worthwhile compound, too. I guess alternatively we could call 3-FXE "meta-FXE", which would make 2-FXE "ortho-FXE" and by extension, 4-FXE would be "para-FXE"… Ow, I think my brain hurts now, lol
Um… yeahhh, no. It doesn't really hold up to PCP. It has more in common with Ketamine and MXE than it does PCP and its 3-oxygen-moiety-substituted analogs (e.g.: 3-MeO-PCP, 3-HO-PCP). Generally I feel like dissos are either stimulating or sedating – e.g. Ketamine is sedating while PCP is stimulating. 2FXE is of the sedating variety. I was expecting it to be more like MXE and found myself disappointed when it came up short, so I shelved it for months until a friend asked me to try it. He loved it and it convinced me to re-appraise it, this time with lower expectations. I was pleasantly surprised that it's got its own charms and I consider the compound worthy of exploration. Higher doses can become mystical, even.
Hmmm, that's a bit subjective and hard to say; also depends on how you define mania. I think probably yes, just not as profoundly and easily as PCP and its close analogs. What's good about those drugs is they're so potent the average dose is quite small and this limits its potentially to damage the bladder as most of these dissos have the capability to do if abused. So something that's active @ 50 mg is going to deal out more damage potentially than something that's active around 8 mg just by sheer logistics and surface area geometry. Also, keep in mind that mania can be a dual-edged sword, so to speak. Mania is disinhibiting, and when inhibition is lowered, shit crappens.
It mixes really well w/psychedelics, in my opinion, and that's using it before, during, and after the trip. On separate occasions I've mixed it with LSD, DMT, Psilacetin, Colour, 2C-B, Allylescaline, and 25B-NBOH all with much success. It's not a show stopper, 2FXE, not the main course entree for the evening, as it were, but it's definitely a 'tasty' little tapas a la carte drug with the ability to pique a psychedelic experience / entheogen session. In summary, keep your expectations low and you might be pleasantly surprised. At least, that was my experience and proverbial $0.02. YMMV, and good luck! Hope this helps
I like the times I strike a balance between a stimulating experience and a sedative/meditative one. It puts me into a flow state.
This depends if you're overlapping peaks or "piggybacking" them so that as one is coming off the other is coming on, if that makes sense. Allows them to complement and potentiate rather than compete and cause headaches.
Yes so "Colour" is a nickname/street slang name for 4-HO-MET. The British spelling of the word is clutch here, too. It is "Colour", not "Color". This can also extend to include 4-AcO-MET which is thought of as largely being a prodrug to 4-HO-MET anyway and the same effects and qualities for the most part. Sometimes the latter gets referred to as "Comet" or "Azomet", which no doubt comes from a phonetic pronunciation of the acronym. But the name "Colour" sounds familiar and safe to people, I think. When asked, I describe it as mushrooms' friendlier cousin with nothing to prove; it has a laidback attitude, a clean headspace, and shroom-like fractal visuals galore. I never end up in one of those hellishly intense introspective trips where I analyze all my flaws under a microscope of self-criticism and psychedelic moral ideology. Instead Colour offers a warm, fun, friendly trip with no strings attached.
"Wind pills"? That's hilarious. Sounds like an OTC med for treating an upset stomach / bad gas
Honestly, DOC was a rough ride for me. I love DOM and seek it from time to time. DOI was also fun, and I would do it again if it comes around. DOB is also excellent though it carries a heavy body load, and the isolated R-isomer is definitely worth checking out if you get the chance; just be aware: it's extremely potent and nothing to traipse into lightly.
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I generally don't consider boofing unless there's some real true value in doing so. I'm generally ok with oral ingestion, though I don't mind vaporizing or smoking the right substance either. Insufflation I try to avoid but I'll do it if need be. IM is mostly only for steroids or the occasional K muscle bump. IV is too hardcore for any regularity, but once in a while it's incredible IVing DMT fumarate, DPT.HCL, or Ketamine. This isn't too often though.