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The Big & Dandy 5-APB Thread

Given all the comparisons, with people seeming to vastly prefer 6-APB to 5-APB, I was expecting a bit of a disappointment tonight when I dosed 110mg of 5-APB.

Thankfully I'm pleased that I was wrong :D

They're both quite different.

The euphoria on 6-APB was overwhelming (in a good way of course) and very clean and strong, with quite a sudden drop after the peak where I suddenly started longing to be back there and feeling a little down that I knew I'd be awake for the next several hours without feeling quite as good as I had before.

5-APB didn't quite have that same euphoric push, if I was just sitting around, I almost felt sober at times, but.. the moment touch, good music, and talking came into the equation - bang, the euphoria came in grand rushes like 6-APB. I agree about this one feeling quite messy - while 6-APB had visuals it felt like I was on a straight stimulant rather than a psychedelic, but with 5-APB I had the opposite, no visuals but a lot of the time I felt like I was tripping, and a few times I really zoned out and completely forgot what I was doing. My favourite part of the night though is that the comedown was so gradual, no big drop off like 6-APB, it's 9 and a half hours since I dosed and I still feel great, slooooowly returning to baseline, with music and cigarettes giving me flashes back to the peak :D

I feel like 6-APB wins in pure euphoria, but 5-APB wins in the tactile department for sure for me.

Hopefully I'll be able to write up a proper trip report later. I think I'm going to put on a film until I pass out :)

For reference, in terms of overall strength, 110mg 5-APB feels a bit stronger than my experience with 150mg 6-APB, but nowhere near the strength of 250mg. Maybe ~165-175 or so if I were to hazard a guess.

Edit: Trip report: here :)
 
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Correct me please if i'm wrong. As i understood the come up starts at T+2:00 And the peak is from T+3:00 to T+6:00. That makes 5-APB almost same long as Dox with danger of OD when redosing. I am going to try this substance this weekend and want to know what to expect and when to redose if i find the primal dose insufficient.
 
JJ-180 said:
6-apb is just ok,whereas 5-apb is verging on good.
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Try them together. Very interesting. 5 for energy, 6 for euphoria and trippiness. 5 is much stronger per mg so make sure you get the ratio right otherwise 5 will just overpower the 6.
 
I've had the chance to try both 5 & 6-APB, 6-APB twice & 5-APB once and a 50/50 combo once as well. I spaced all these out pretty well to avoid tolerance (since last august). The 5 seemed more sedate to me, and the combo, in the 50/50 ratio anyway, definitely felt overpowered by the 5. Still a good time though :) Probably go with 70/30 or so next time. 5-APB didn't seem to have as bad of a comedown/hangover as 6. The latter definitely leaves me feeling more washed out the next day or two. I frankly didn't experience all that much in the way of psychedelia with either, but eventually i may get around to combining one of these with a tryptamine or perhaps 2c-c... that'll probably be a ways off though.
 
any major dude said:
5-APB didn't seem to have as bad of a comedown/hangover as 6. The latter definitely leaves me feeling more washed out the next day or two.
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I would also agree with this. 5 seems to leave without too much trouble and the slow down from peak is gradual and quite pleasant. 6 always seems to leave me feeling drained but no come down really. I think 6 is just a very efficient user of energy - it really takes it out of you but it gives so much back.
 
Yep, it's now a week since my 5-APB experience and I had no hangover to speak of at all - other than some tiredness when I got up the next day, but I'm often tired half the time anyway from my rather unusual sleep habits. I do imagine it'd be there with higher doses, but I feel by the time you hit those doses there'd probably be too many negative side-effects during the experience itself too, and not just the hangover.

I think my next test in 1-3 months time will be 75-100mg 6-APB + 25-35mg 5-APB :)
 
Higher doses seem to be ok too. Took 200mg of 6 and slightly less of 5 last weekend - over several hours. Other than being very, very tired, I was fine. The batch of 5 was very weak and the 6 fairly strong. Once my supply of 5 runs out, I'll probably just stick to 6 from now on.

I've also tried a similar combo-dose to the one you're planning. Took 150 of 6 and 70 of 5 (I think). That was lovely but that batch of 5 was much stronger - almost blew the 6 away.
 
How long is the comeup on this one? I have some ~190mgs at my disposal. I'm thinking I'll save it for an outdoor dance music gathering. I always noticed if it was cold outside my MDMA roll would end, does this one have the same tendency to drop off at low temperatures? Also I hadn't yet heard a definitive answer, is sex on this possible? I try to avoid drugs with negative sexual side effects.
 
I felt it after 50-60 minutes. With 6-APB though I felt it after just over that, while a lot of people don't feel anything until the second hour, so my come up time might not be the same for you.
 
QuasiModo said:
How long is the comeup on this one? I have some ~190mgs at my disposal. I'm thinking I'll save it for an outdoor dance music gathering. I always noticed if it was cold outside my MDMA roll would end, does this one have the same tendency to drop off at low temperatures? Also I hadn't yet heard a definitive answer, is sex on this possible? I try to avoid drugs with negative sexual side effects.
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Come up for me on 5 can take anything up to and including two hours. If it is weak, longer still. Cold certainly kills rolls but 5 is a fairly hardy substance - I've spent a fair bit of time in outside areas of nightclubs on 5, during winter. It didn't really seem to have too much of an impact. And yes, sex is possible - certainly can't peak but you can have a bloody good go. Certainly don't take any viagra with it - way to much strain on your heart. Just relax into the substance and things should start working :)
 
Haha no I wasn't considering ED medications to force sex on an empathogen ^-^ that'd be ridiculous.. And possibly painful.

Maybe sometime after this cold passes I'll dose on it.. 1-2mg allergy test, followed by a 110mg dosage 7 days later I reckon. Does that sound unreasonable to any experienced heads in here?
 
QuasiModo said:
Haha no I wasn't considering ED medications to force sex on an empathogen ^-^ that'd be ridiculous.. And possibly painful.

Maybe sometime after this cold passes I'll dose on it.. 1-2mg allergy test, followed by a 110mg dosage 7 days later I reckon. Does that sound unreasonable to any experienced heads in here?
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Always tough to comment on doses. To give you information about myself - see if that helps - I'm late 20s, 62kg, and quite fit / healthy. On MDMA, I'll take an initial dose of 115 - 140. On 5 I have taken doses ranging from 30mg - 200mg. Have started at both 70mg and 100mg. The 70mg was a strong batch and that was a nice evening (with a 30mg top-up). The 100mg was weak and I took an additional 100mg over the space of a few hours. Still fairly weak but quite fun.

Mixing 5 and 6APB is lovely although 6 is wonderful by itself.
 
I feel this file needs reopening, had some 5-APB lying around in a drawer for a while and had some tonight. Probably only had 50mg but I'm quite sensitive to MD-esque substances. Feeling it pretty strongly, a lot of euphoria with the right music, very special feeling. Some energy around peak, but not so much now quite a lethargic but pleasant high. This is definitely an underrated chem, seemingly forgotten alongside it's 'better' big brother 6-APB. But I really do think it deserves some credit in its own right. Also, sex on the come up was some of the best ever, like amazing %)
 
I am going to be using 100mg of 5-apb tonight for the first time,i have extensive use of many other compounds and am well experienced,i plan on plugging the 100mg in one go,i have etizolam and a bottle of red wine that i will use also,mainly using the etizolam for sleep or if i experience anxiety,the wine will be sipped throughout the experience as an accompaniment.

I tried to get a small free sample of 5-meo-dalt from the same vendor that supplied the etizolam but alas they didn`t respond to my request,i planned on using the 5-meo-dalt whilst coming up on the 5-apb,i thought this would have been an awsome combination.

If anyone would like to give me any useful advice on how to best utilise this compound it would be greatly appreciated,i have read through the forums and this thread to get as much information on 5-apb as possible to help me on my way.

Phoenix
 
Originally posted by Shifty38 - Looks like it was posted by Phoenix_rising because I messed up when merging. Apol

Phoenix, you'll have a blast. Personally, I wouldn't drink with it. It'll just slow you down. My first time, I used 70mg with a 30mg top-up two hours in. Come-up can take a while. I've found 5-APB to be extremely potent so go easy. It is such a lucid, crisp and clean high. Very jealous. Some lovely music is a must. And etizolam is a very good idea as it can be difficult to get to sleep.

The most I've taken is 210mg (over a few hours) of a weaker batch (coupled with 190 of 6-APB). That was very much fun also. Anyway, enjoy your journey :)

Edit: NOS can be pretty fun too. A hit after the peak was nice. Not as nice as on MD but still worth trying
 
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Thanks for the response shifty.

Well i`ve already had a couple of pints at my local and now just chilling on the sofa,but blast off will be imminent very shortly,i don`t mind being slowed down as i really just want to chill out in bliss with some good sounds,not really up for jumping around.

I shall post up my experience,it may not be like a full on detailed trip report,more a summery of my findings.;)

Im not sure of the quality of my batch but i do know some very important people that are legal on these things and maybe they know if its quality or not.

Hmm very grainy indeed,doesn`t like to dissolve in water thats for sure...Anyway up the poop shoot it went,i did expect it to come on quickly using this ROA but it hasn`t,so i shall wait and see,i`m really hoping i have good product and not the weak shite doing the rounds.

Anyone else plugged 5-apb? If so please elaborate on your findings.
 
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Psoodonym reported earlier in the thread that rectal 5-apb wasn't worthwhile. Maybe he'll chime in here.
 
Ah great lol...Surely though it would be absorbed like most drugs through the rectum,6-apb does so why not 5-apb?

I also used a tiny bit of brown vinegar to help dissolve the product.
 
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