The Big & Dandy 1P-LSD Thread, Volume 1

[AmoebicMagician]

Oh wow! Awesome...I rememebr all those shows! Hey youd be the perfect person for me to ask then...Has the character of the acid trip changed for you as you got older? I mean the visuals and other effects are just really different than how they were when I was a teen. I feel like my visuals were more abstract and out of control back then. Nowadays they have simmered down quite a bit...just curious.

I had wondered this myself, wondered if my brain had fundamentally changed or something.

Here is what I see, from my perspective.

The brain is an immutable powerhouse of wonder and possibility, we only scrape the surface to do all the things we do every day, while the real interesting stuff goes on underneath, deep down in the works of the machine, in the heart of the city where your conscious mind has no reason to frequent.

Acid is literally the keys to your brain, it's effects are as changeable and plastic as your very mind is. You will be AMAZED how much more control you have over how your brain works than you think, it's almost like rebooting a computer in safe mode and looking at the code or something.

If you go into an experience expecting something, you will be more likely to get it, and as far as I'm concerned, to be disappointed.

When I trip I learned to just leave myself open to the experience, not expecting anything, which is hard because we do it subconsciously- and I have been blown away by the variety and beauty of life that has been opened before me.

It is a special thing to be a living human, our brains and souls carry so much wonder we shut ourselves away from as we get older.

As you grow and mature, you naturally put up more filters. If you let it, if you're comfortable with you, all those can fall away and psychedelics can show you things LITERALLY you could have never imagined.

Anyways, my point was that after tripping balls more than a few times, you get to think you know the substance, and come to expect certain things. We can't really help that, but we do have the power to cast those expectations away with a simple act of will.

You should try lucid dreaming, it will help you navigate the trip space easier, and really delve down into the really really cool stuff without panicking.

 

[Xorkoth]

Oh wow! Awesome...I rememebr all those shows! Hey youd be the perfect person for me to ask then...Has the character of the acid trip changed for you as you got older? I mean the visuals and other effects are just really different than how they were when I was a teen. I feel like my visuals were more abstract and out of control back then. Nowadays they have simmered down quite a bit...just curious.

This is generally the case with me too. I think it boils down to familiarity with the state. When you haven't tripped much (not to mention you're less solidified in who you are when you're young), it's a dramatic, huge shift in consciousness, and feels a lot more overwhelming. You've never had visuals before, so they manifest in unique ways. As you get more and more trips under your belt, the state becomes more and more familiar, and it throws you off balance less and less. I know that when I trip I pretty much know what to expect, even though I still get those occasional trips that blow me away. It's just that I feel psychedelic all the time now... I don't feel like I'm tripping all the time but my consciousness has touched that level so much that it's not such a massive shift when I do trip. Having more trips under your belt coincides with aging, but I'm not sure it's the reason for it, rather your overall familiarity with tripping may be what causes this phenomenon... at least that's my speculation. Really just the thoughts I had upon reading your post.

 

[Just A Guy]

Having more trips under your belt coincides with aging, but I'm not sure it's the reason for it, rather your overall familiarity with tripping may be what causes this phenomenon... at least that's my speculation.

Aye aye! It's like learning the language. The trip becomes less alien and more like a strange but familiar place rather than a potentially-frightening journey into an unknown land.

I cant wrap my head around WHY theres no cross tolerance to AL-LAD and this compound as well. I hear there's no cross tolerance of al-lad to other lysergamides as well...this is very trippy.. but i digress

I have no reason to doubt you, but can anyone else chime in on the veracity of this statement?

 

[Green Monsters]

I often search the web for trip stories, Thats how I ended up here.
In 1992, I was a youngster living in Staten Island. I was lucky enough to have a hand full of acid trips, but 2 of those trips impressed me so deeply that I still think about it everyday.
After a bad trip I swore I wouldn't touch it again, but continuing fascination with the experience led me to realize that there was unfinished buisness. By that time, the 90's came to a close, acid was gone and I was left with regret having fought off that trip so hard. I can never have closure.
Since then, I read all the trip reports I can,trying to somehow rediscover that part of myself.

The idea that 1p-lsd can reproduce that experience is astounding yet equally terrifying.
I have butterflies in my stomach reading this thread. Big butterflies!

Btw, hello all.%)

 

[AmoebicMagician]

300 mics last night around 5:45pm

I don't know if there was just something wrong with my chemistry last time or what- but this time all lights were green.

Things are still scrambled a bit as I write this. I just had one of the most profound experiences of my life- I can not even put it into words.

The character was completely different than last time. Whereas AL-LAD seems to have a set course like a river you follow to it's terminus, a lot like the disney jungle adventure boat ride, it's fun but there's not really much choice but to stick with the program which is both good and bad.

This substance is more like a vast ocean, all you need do is pick a new direction and proceed and fantastic things will yaw before you.

I think because of the character of my trips up to this point I had been expecting certain things and that colored my current trips. I now have shed those preconceptions and there is SO MUCH MORE TO OFFER!

I literally at one point had delved into my mind and tried to remember that I had control, but at the same time there was no control- interdependent opposites- anyways I ended up in a hallway filled with doors leading to different times in my life. So much of this can not be put into words...

I also reclaimed something from my first few trips I thought was gone forever, the ability to basically stop time and retreat into my thoughts for as long as I wanted to. I honestly think I could have lived an entire lifetime in my head if I had wanted to, and then returned to the very second I delved into myself.

Anyways, I will try to put this in more order later- for right now though the basics

Onset was gradual
First alert 20 mins, chewing lip, burst into 'liquid mode' at about t+45

Incredible Euphoria, AMAZING JOURNEYS

 

[Valkyrie]

There are reports of people experiencing barly any to no effects at all. But for now we dont know if this is due to the blotters they bought, respectively the vendors they bought it from. Just read the whole thread, there is quite some information besides all the off topic talk.

Is there anyone who had an uncomfortable experience on 1p-LSD? I read all reports i was able to find but not a single one contained difficult experiences or experiences that are not also typical for LSD.

My OH had very little effect from 100ug so he took another and hated everything about it. He like lsd and loves shrooms but says this is very poor in comparison. It works a treat for me and I don't usually like psychedelics.

 

[Valkyrie]

You would've thought that's the logic, but no. Tried it last weekend in a lovely holiday chalet, good frame of mind going into it and beautiful setting. Gave it another go this weekend at home, tidied up and made everything look nice beforehand (mainly for my benefit cos I hate tripping when I can see stuff that needs doing), had the UV on as well. Very little effect. He ended up watching a film while I lost myself in the music. It's weird cos he's usually good with psychedelics and I'm not, and this is the complete opposite. His normal dose for shrooms is >3g and he does them often. Not sure if that has any relevance?

 

[StoneHappyMonday]

All this says to me is you can't beat (real) LSD...

 

[Valkyrie]

This is much better for me than real lsd. The demons always get the better of me with lsd. There are no demons with 1P, they're not even lurking.

 

[AmoebicMagician]

This is much better for me than real lsd. The demons always get the better of me with lsd. There are no demons with 1P, they're not even lurking.

I wonder why that is? So far it's been all smiles, although there were some heady concepts and things that were 'scary' to deal with and be awakened to, I was never really 'scared' on any of my so far journeys with this chem

Acid has a vague underlying sinisterness that can manifest. But honestly, the effects so far have been as mutable as those of the mother drug, if not more so, so maybe I am doing a dis-service to myself and the drug by reading this into it's behavior- or anything into same.

 

[StoneHappyMonday]

There are no demons with 1P, they're not even lurking.

How many times have you done this? because if it's less than, say, 20, how can you tell?

 

[Valkyrie]

I've only had it a week and I've done it twice so far, but it has a completely different feel to it. It doesn't confuse me like similar drugs and there's no incessant looping round and around. I can't really explain why it's different, it's just much, much nicer and instead of making me scared,it makes me smile. I like it.

 

[AmoebicMagician]

I think I found what I was looking for. I feel like it was 'enough'

I can't really explain it other than to compare it to a time I ate peyote 15 years ago.

I just feel like I got what I needed, and don't need to trip for awhile. This BTW was not really in any way a difficult experience, just profoundly powerful. I was tripping straight balls like harder than eating two ten strips of globes blotter back in the day. It was just profoundly beautiful and... the soul detergent renewing power is there, the magic is there. More later still re-integrating. Just... so amazingly beautiful

 

[Samulson]

Last night out of curiosity, I decided to try a half a hit so ~ 50ug. I found this amount to provide a very relaxing, calm experience with just enough magic sparkle to add a psychedelic layer to ordinary activities. For me, this amount was very functional, provided a good 10 hours of solid enjoyment, an extremely easy come down, and essentially no burn out. The difference between a full and a half hit of this is actually quite surprising.

After this, my recommendation would be that anyone trying this for the first time, who has not got some previous experience with acid, should consider trying just a half if they have any worries. That amount will show you a bit of the magic, but let you remain completely in control of the experience. A good fun frolic on the fringes of the potential this chemical contains.

 

[al-laddin]

Aye aye! It's like learning the language. The trip becomes less alien and more like a strange but familiar place rather than a potentially-frightening journey into an unknown land.



I have no reason to doubt you, but can anyone else chime in on the veracity of this statement?

I doubt theres any scholarly articles on this but Ive seen a good handful of people report this...I belive it was on reddit and another forum dealing with RCs...I personally noticed no loss in effects dosing both compounds within a three day period. It was something I noticed without giving it a second thought initially but I read about it after and found it to be interesting.


I concur with those above saying that its a bit "easier" than acid. I believe that it COULD go bad, no doubt , but its a little less difficult than LSD but quite a bit more challenging than AL-LAD....If acid is a 10 , 1p is an 8 and AL is about a 3 or 4...if that makes sense. I tripped on 1p last night with about 5 others. They knew it was an analogue and where excited to see what it was like. Two the people said that they do great with shrooms but not so well with acid. They were very pleased with 1p in its slightly gentler effects. However the general consensus was that it is indeed less visual which IMO is this compounds MAJOR but only flaw. I would like it just as much as acid if it were as visual.

 

[dariozee]

Hello everyone

I'm eager to try 1p, and I was just wondering, what do people mean when they say it's "less visual"? Are there no colourful CEV's, OEV's? Or are they just less intense? I have only had LSA before, and it was extremely visual, the dose was quite heavy though... Thanks

 

[al-laddin]

My theory is because acid is more abrupt of a comeup....more of the chemical reaches your brain faster it creates more intense visual effects....essentially from anecdotal reports and my peers and my experience it seems to be a slower acting "time release" effect....basically it hits fast (10 mins or so) but the come up is very slow and drawn out...like 2 + hours to peak ....it never really reaches the visual effects you would expect from acid....take 200ug and it will CERTAINLY be visual....even 100 ug is visual but you would find acid more visually pleasing at this dose....hope this makes sense

 

[Toltec]

There is a difference in how fast and the intensity of effects you get
... If you have a full stomach, opposed to an empty stomach..

 

[Inrecovery]

If I bought pure crystal, what solvent would be best to preserve it indefinitely

I find 2 a little overwhelming. Too much noise: half a tab is really good to socialise and go for a woodland walk

 

[hatfish]

Last night out of curiosity, I decided to try a half a hit so ~ 50ug. I found this amount to provide a very relaxing, calm experience with just enough magic sparkle to add a psychedelic layer to ordinary activities. For me, this amount was very functional, provided a good 10 hours of solid enjoyment, an extremely easy come down, and essentially no burn out. The difference between a full and a half hit of this is actually quite surprising.

After this, my recommendation would be that anyone trying this for the first time, who has not got some previous experience with acid, should consider trying just a half if they have any worries. That amount will show you a bit of the magic, but let you remain completely in control of the experience. A good fun frolic on the fringes of the potential this chemical contains.

Well how about that. Just today I have enjoyed the experience provided by a half tab of 1P. I agree with your post entirely, I am not used to LSD and its offshoots but am a bit with mushrooms, I feel this lower dose was a nice way to learn some of the nuances of this different kind of trip. For anyone interested, I have written and posted a trip report:

http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/756061-1P-LSD-50mcg-Mild-but-Worthwhile

Be well!