RCs The AH-7921 (Ah7921) Megathread (v1)

[Dev0r]

This stuff is pretty awful just saying.

I had two grams of it and the only people who seemed to enjoy it were those who were also skeeted out of thier skulls on cocaine.

I personally found it alright one night it made me warm and fuzzy for about 3 minutes and I passed out. I tried taking it again a few days later while less tired and i took about twice as much and got very little in terms of any opiod euphoria or dissociation I honestly just felt like I was overheating really bad an nauseaus. like there was ZERO euphoria.... In fact the only people who enjoyed it were on other chemicals :/ it seems to just blow buiscuts on its own


Oh yes, and the drip is like inhaling straight chlorine, youve been warned.

 

[AFA]

Does anyone have any experience with vaping the HCL? Theres a erowid report which describes vaping the freebase.

 

[Dev0r]

Yeah I vaped the HCL it didnt work well and tasted like crap... had a slight opiod rush but nothing compared to sliding an oxy 30.....



Basically as interesting as AH7921 sounds on paper, forget about it. It's honestly a desperate attempt at an opiate and there would be better ones but AH7921 is extremely easy to make apparently. also tells you something about the quality of the lab it may come from since it doesnt take much of a scientist to synthesize it...

 

[AFA]

damn was getting my hopes up.

Curious if it is worth vaping if you have no tolerance to opiates and if you can bare the taste. I think I want to avoid Nasal insufflation but want a fast onset.

any1 tried mixing some AH-7921 into tobacco + weed chopped and smoked through a bong?

 

[knock]

It's certainly a two-dimensional opioid, not a three-dimensional one. But if you're sniffing it, and if all you're getting is nausea, then I have to say you're doing it wrong.

 

[foolsgold]

Anyone tried this in combo with MDPV?

knock have you?

not mdpv but used it with 2-dpmp and found it was over powered by the stimulant worked very well at the end though

 

[Dev0r]

damn was getting my hopes up.

Curious if it is worth vaping if you have no tolerance to opiates and if you can bare the taste. I think I want to avoid Nasal insufflation but want a fast onset.

any1 tried mixing some AH-7921 into tobacco + weed chopped and smoked through a bong?

I think it would be bearable if mixed with some weed and smoked "qualude" style.

It would have a decent rush for people not tolerant, the first time I took it was okayish, it seems like if you get tolerance from anything at all (including the AH) the very small magic it has goes down drastically.

It sounded so good on paper though, a semi strong opiod with dissociation?? but it just didnt live to the hype for me. and im one of those people who actually liked 2-meo ket (underhyped for sure), etaqualone, methylmethaqualone (basicly the ones oldschoolers hate on) even though many considered them to be flops

 

[AFA]

Hmmm might give it a go, cheers for the info dev.

Youv made me think twice about meo ket too... i feel like i usually enjoy half shit everyone says is a flop.

Will most likey end up mixing some apvp with the ah so ill let ya know nick

 

[Dev0r]

^

Not good, but not as harsh as others. Most chems dont hurt too bad on the lungs, but thats what scares me is its hard to tell what damages and what doesnt. Like I LOVE mxe vapour, but who knows...





Oh and about 2-meo-ket. It's best in small bumps over the course of the night. not in giant rails. also make god damn sure your tolerance is down, i noticed after a two week dissociative break it kicked my ass. but when I had tolerance to mxe a .7 oral bomb of 2-meo-ket just made me a little drunk and gave me brain zaps from hell the day after
It's basically a slightly stimulating K with no K-hole in sight. but its a decent semi-functional dissociative high. for sure. And it mixes well with Methylone.

 

[chugs]

it seems strange that with such a profile that AH-7921 wasn't commercialised.

The lack of euphoria coupled with effective analgesia makes it seems like the sort of drug the medical establishment would be clamouring over.

 

[ShaggyFin]

This stuff interests me
Never thought I'd hear of an Op RC

At least not a safe one.

 

[Halif]

This shit is weird (Ah-7921, I mean) for me.

It doesn't do much of anything by itself due to my opiate tolerance, but it works great as a potentiator for other opiates.

One thing, though. If I use it, even small amounts (50mg as a potentiator) for more than a couple of days in a row, I get pretty bad nausea, which lasts for a day.

I threw up the other day for the first time in years, and this was before I had dosed anything. I had used AH-7921 for three days in a row alongside my usual dose of morphine. It worked great everytime. Then, on the fourth day, before dosing, I woke up feeling seedy. It got worse and I puked twice and felt gross all day.

I didn't dose it again and was fine the next day and onwards.

Anyone else have an experience like this?

(dosing was oral, BTW - between 50 and 80mg per time at the same time as the morphine or H).

 

[knock]

It doesn't do much of anything by itself due to my opiate tolerance

What doses of this have you used (on it's own)?

I was going to wait to hear your answer buy I'll just say it now - how can you say it doesn't do anything if you haven't dose it properly?

 

[Halif]

What do you mean dose it "properly"? Smoked it - horrible and nothing. Didn't try snorting due to feedback on here. Nor sublingual.

I tried oral doses of the drug itself three times; 50mg, 80mg, 130mg. Got nothing noticeable.

Combining it with other opiates gave a noticeable boost, though.

When I can get it (which is hardly ever), I can comfortably enjoy 140 -180mg of oxycodone (orally). Morphine via IV between 80-120mg is good. Even codeine still does something for me at 800-1,000mg doses.

But I figure that if I go up to 130mg of AH7921 and the only stand out feature is nausea, then something isn't right. The batch is good. I am sure of its purity and quality.

I think this drug just doesn't agree with me. Strange that it's so effective in small amounts as a combo, but even then once it accumulates, I end up feeling really ill.

 

[AFA]

Thnaks for your input halif, always interesting reading.

I too am curious about poteniation, i was thinking mixing of using etiz to potentiate the ah.

Would the etiz help add to the euphoria or just make me more relaxed/depressed

 

[Halif]

Not sure about that one, AFA. I know that AH potentiates codeine, morphine, and... well just about any opiate/opioid. But not sure how it would do with a benzo (or thienodiazepine if we want to get wanky and technical in the case of etiz).

Like I was mentioning, I just find it weird that I can't use it for more than a couple of days in a row, even small doses, before getting sick.

It's like it accumulates and irritates my system quite badly, which is a damn shame because I like the quality it has of potentiating things without
'colouring' the effect of the primary substance. In my experience of mixing it with other opiates, it just seems to feel like you've taken a good 30 - 40% more of the original opiate you wanted in the first place.

Ahhhh.... still waiting for a proper, decent opioid RC to get out and about. Something that isn't weird and atypical, or dangerously potent like the fent analogues (which were still the closest thing to a decent RC opioid IMO despite the stupid high prices), or good but overpriced - like o-desmethyltramadol. That was pretty good stuff, just not affordable for someone with a tolerance.

 

[knock]

What do you mean dose it "properly"? Smoked it - horrible and nothing. Didn't try snorting due to feedback on here. Nor sublingual.

I tried oral doses of the drug itself three times; 50mg, 80mg, 130mg. Got nothing noticeable.

Exactly. I require 200mg bare minimum to get any effects. I am in no way a hard-core opiate user, AH7921 is the only drug I've had proper withdrawals from, so if you have any opiate experience it is no surprise it didn't work for you. You are underdosing. You will not get effects from 130mg, if you're like me. It is not enough. Take more! The fact you're not getting anything from this drug is your own fault, you haven't eaten anything like the minimum recreational dose.

Some people seem to get by on 50mg doses, I don't understand that, they are weirdos, I think they're lying actually. If you are normal, like me, then follow my advice :D. 50mg never did anything for me, nor did 150mg, only 200mg+.


In the name of HR, everyone should start off low and build up as maybe me and Halif are the freaks, but don't stop at 130mg you idiots, keep going until it works, because it does.

 

[Halif]

If you are normal, like me, then follow my advice

I am not normal.

maybe me and Halif are the freaks

As above, YOU are normal, and I am a freak.

but don't stop at 130mg you idiots, keep going until it works,

OK, you've lost me here. I get severe nausea from this drug if I take over 100mg. Just AH itself. No other opioid makes me nauseous unless I take a huge dose. I don't know why, but there's something about AH that doesn't agree with me. It's not just a bad batch - it's happened with different batches from different sources.

So... why would I keep upping the dose if it makes me violently ill?

Why is it that on this board we are constantly giving advice based on OUR SUBJECTIVE experiences and assuming that because it's true for us, it will be true for everyone else?

I may as well tell someone who gets sick from 60mg of oxy to take 180mg because that works for me....

I know it's not a tolerance thing, because AH isn't as strong as the opiates I use every day. There;s something about that drug in particular that causes a bad reaction in me.

 

[knock]

It's not as potent, weight for weight. I'm sorry it made you nauseous. It doesn't do that to me. OK, if it makes you nauseous it's not for you. Sorry

 

[Halif]

That's OK

You're right. It's not for me. It may be that I have a stomach issue which the AH is irritated by once it builds up, because I'm fine with small potentiating amounts for a couple of days.. .then it's pukahontas time.

But who knows? I'll just stay away from it.

I'll be curious to hear if anyone else experienced anything like that, though. So far I haven't heard anything like it.