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That Wacky Modafinil

Interestingly, I exchanged some messages a while back with a guy who said he experienced "cocaine-like" euphoria lasting all day long from the combination of modafinil and cabergoline.
 
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My shrink and neurologist won't let me near the shit. But they'll give me tons of fent, clobazam, dorminoct and lyrica. Stocked up. Even double the dose of fent at the drop of a hat. I want something to boost my cognitive functions. I believe I have PCCI but I can't get shit for it. Lyrica doesn't help my condition at all but it's necessary for neuralgia.

They are convinced that Provigil is the devil, addictive and unnecessary. Maybe they are right and I should wait for the rest of the stuff to ware off. But in the mean time I'm a professional engineer trying to put my life back together after 2 major mishaps, I have to have my act together at the drop of a hat when my boss comes marauding into my office with some problem they don't know how to solve.

Also regarding the post RE: Generics and the adsorption matrix, none of the specialists seem to want you to use generics at all. I had a theory about stereoisomirsm being the culprit and they told me the same thing after a bit of pressing, they mentioned photographic molecules rotating and racemic mixtures (obviously stereo-isomerism but all I could do is act dumb).

I don't know if they are being brainwashed or paid off by the pharm co's.
 
]My shrink and neurologist won't let me near the shit ... I believe I have PCCI but I can't get shit for it ... They are convinced that Provigil is the devil, addictive and unnecessary.
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Just ask them for Desoxyn instead.

No, but seriously, as far as I know modafinil is generally not viewed by doctors with the same hysteria that psychostimulants, even methylphenidate, often provoke ... and there's decent reasons for this, I mean even within the context of the world of law-abiding conservative doctors ... your professionals seem by this metric to exist on a fairly retarded area of the curve.
 
@Hexx: If there is one thing to be said about modafinil, then that this is hardly addictive at all. Even the other side-effects (escept for headaches) are seemingly rare.
 
Why not just buy adrafinil? It metabolizes to modafinil. There's stuff warning that it can elevate liver parameters but all the tox I've read about modafinil indicates this too and that it does not indicate toxicity or carcinogenicity despite causing liver enlargement. Not to mention it's cheaper.

I think the entire reason for modafinil's controlled subtance status is that it helps the doctor-pharmaceutical industry axis make more money; it doesn't appear to be all that much more self-reinforcing than caffeine in primates.
 
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Adrafinil is an inferior stimulant compared to Modafinil. I notice more amphetamine-like peripheral side effects, for example, runny shits and muscle tension. The "buzz" (yes a mild buzz) is also not as smooth feeling.

Modafinil was nice the first day... until I couldn't sleep even 16 hours later... somewhat nice the 2nd day, and by the 3rd day I basically just took it because I was so tired from taking the drug and getting shitty sleep the first two days. On this third day I had a mildly negative reaction to the drug (200mg) as I felt physically exhausted by my brain was oddly and unpleasantly awake alongside a shitty headache.

I have no Modafinil left and a few Adrafinils. I have no plans to take these ever again but I keep them just in case there is some occasion that I really need to wake up for. (I don't use coke or speed anymore.... and honestly I'd rather drink some coffee than take Adrafinil or even Modafinil)
 
I hate to say this out loud and risk being flamed, but Modafinil is simply not worthy to be called a stimulant. It's that lousy.
 
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I hate to say this out loud and risk being flamed, but Modafinil is simply not worthy to be called a stimulant. It's that lousy.
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Have you had the brand name by chance? It's definitely wake-promoting. Not in that faster faster faster DARI sort of way, but definitely restores alertness and awakeness (???) far better and with far fewer side effects than caffeine.

I've never had a headache or anything else though from it.

I do notice that if I try sleeping on a dose I end up in this half sleeping state populated entirely by odd dreams. Not a bad place to be- but when you have 3 hours of this out of an 8 hour night of sleep, you're not getting enough real rest!

I took 225mg today at 730a and at 335p I'm still feeling it quite strong. It's not really anything though. Definitely hard to categorize.

I don't think it enables you to work faster, but there's some intangible nootropic effect. I practiced some 3D maneuvers today (hovering, torque rolls, harriers and rolling harriers, things I'm not too good at. I did much better than I ought to have though. Defintely beyond my capabilities, but I watched some videos to give me some tips, and it definitely aids the learning capabilities.)
 
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I've used modafinil for occasional performance enhancement when running a sleep debt, mostly in academic settings. It does what it claims very well. It feels to me almost like caffeine with NO peripheral effects, maybe with a bit more of a concentration boost...but no euphoria or motivational enhancement.

One day, I was so drowsy that I accidentally doubled my dose, from 200 mg to 400. After failing to induce vomiting, I braced for a yucky ride.

There wasn't one. I merely experienced extended duration.

So odd.

ebola
 
Modafinil, to me, felt like a large intravenous infusion of cool saline solution, somewhat comparable to psuedoephedrine--not unpleasant, though largely worthless.

I shouldn't say it has no use though or is totally worthless, but I don't think you're going to see me trade in my once daily amphetamine prescription for provigil anytime soon.

Perhaps Hammilton is right and modafinil is actually, like the racetams, a nootropic; if that is the case, however, I will have been right not to classify it as a stimulant to begin with.
 
Give it a shot when you've not slept for 20 hours (not due to drugs!) and tell me you think it's entirely without wake-promoting properties.
 
I was prescribed Provigil/modafinil for a little while. At first I would take a 200mg pill and not really notice anything. At the time I was heavily sleep deprived and just kind of a mess. Then much later I rediscovered my leftover prescription and took a 200mg pill, and was floored with overstimulation and anxiety, really nasty. But I tried some more with lower doses and found that 25-100mg would make a great functional dose. It provided me with a very, very light euphoria and motivation. At 100mg I started to become stimulated, but not in a warm, friendly way, so I never raised the dose higher than that again. I found that if I mixed it with a LITTLE BIT of caffeine, like 25mg or something very small, it combined favorably and got me feeling a little bit nice. But it was very, very easy to overdo it and get disgustingly overstimulated.

Overall I wish I still had some for those days where it's hard to get going. I found it to be a very clean and effective stimulant with very little potential for abuse, and I tend to abuse things. It wasn't anything exciting, but it was nice.
 
As a person with ADD, would I trade in the Dexedrine XR that I have taken daily for years for modafinil? No. Do I appreciate the ability of modafinil to resurrect me from a disgustipated mental state if I have been unfortunately without sleep for more than 24 hours (due to circumstances, not due to being spun)? Hell yes.

And I would also argue that some people with ADD might respond well to it. I respond extraordinarily well to amphetamines and not so well to dopamine reuptake inhibitors (e.g. methylphenidate just stopped giving me decent effects and really only made me tired). I guess you just have to give it a fair shake. I think it would be great for people that might have a temptation to abuse something like Dexedrine or Adderall, because modafinil has demonstrated to be quite abuse-proof (I think it is stupid that it is classified as a C-IV in the US...and it is only classified as such because it is technically considered to be a stimulant).
 
Yeah, I think when the FDA/DEA saw that it bound to DAT and cocaine habituated primates would self administer, they figured humans would too.

It's odd, because it didn't work very well for cocaine habituated humans, though it does dull the euphoria from cocaine.
 
I completely second Riemann_Zetas last post!

In Germany, modafinil was even unscheduled in march this year. That strongly supports the low potential for abuse as officials here are not really prudish when it comes to forbid some psychoactives.

Murphy
 
For me on the initial doses it was deffinitly stimulating and euphoric. 200mg on a night on the piss and I was far more outgoing, confident and jokey. The next day though I did realise I said things I regretted. It made me far more likely in my pissed up state to take the piss out of people and be cheeky.

After 2-3 times though that effect subsided and after 6-8 goes it's completely gone and I wouldnt take it on a night out again. Now if i use it for academic work I do find it stimulating, gives me anxiety, a headache and diarhea. Though granted I almost always mix it with coffee. I've got a mountain of academic work at the moment and am desperately trying to find some ritalin or adderall, but I live in the UK.....U americans are so lucky. Adderall, Dex, ritalin, loads of pharmacuetical opiates all at hand.
 
yeah, schedule II. However, our psychiatrists are far more liberal about prescribing adderall and ritalin.

They're generally more liberal about opiates, but only to a degree. It's easy to get a small count, no refill bottle of vicodin or T3, but I think equally difficult to get a long term prescription for these or anything stronger.

I think more people luck out and get really good stuff forever for no reason here, too, though.
 
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