My_Aspersion11_11 said:umm I really haven't had a chance to read this whole thread to see if my answer may be in here or not, but I'm going to ask anyways.
I'm on a waiting list for methadone maintenance, But it will be almost 4-5months before there is a spot open to get me in. And so now my mom found a doctor to write me a script for suboxone... I suppose my point of all this is...can someone tell me what might be better?? Ive replased twice since i left rehab, which was less then 2 weeks ago...I guess I'm just looking for some advice...I feel very lost at this point... thank you
Subreflex said:Personally, I am surprised at the lack of reported recreational use of suboxone.
johanneschimpo said:Thats probably because most of the people talking about it are hardcore junkies; there is no recreational use of suboxone for them.
No matter how much I take, 4mg or 24mg, it feels the same. Thats the beauty of it.
fukhed14 said:ive grown to love this med. it's a LOT like crap heroin, but its treated me right. the best way to do it is to do one right in the nose, snorting just mildly enough to fill the nasal passage, essentially breathing it in, not snorting it really... then you take a break, and finish the pill when your nostril can take more.
biggerstronger said:I've never heard of any regular tests or even non-standard tests that test for bupe. Unless you get one that tests specifically for it or a toxicology test that tests for all known drugs
shamus said:Yes, they're both 3A4 inhibitors.
I've got a couple of Bupe Patches. They last 7 days & release 100mcg an hour. What's the best way of using these?
eg. Can I chop em up & use them sublingually?
Subreflex said:I was looking at the cyp450 interactions chart (specifically the cyp34a section)
I saw Fluoxitine, and quinine under the list of inhibitors, which means potentiating correct? Also I saw st johns wort under inducers, what does that mean?
Also, how much of each of these substances would need to be ingested for maximum potentiation?
The reason i'm asking is because these are the things I have on hand.
lib.sOCialist said:I have a friend who has been trying to kick a pretty bad opie habit with no success. He and I were both wondering if you could get on Suboxone maintenance if you were not 18? He is 17 and is truly trying to get clean. Thnks in advance.
cheers, adam
shamus said:Please don't try & potentiate drugs with antidepressants (they do enough to your brain as it is), quinine might work but I don't think very well (unsure as to what effects it has, might wanna look that up).
An inducer would induce the enzyme that metabolises your bupe, so it's counteractive if you wanna get high.
Subreflex said:Thanks, thats what I thought about the anti-depressant.
shamus said:Please don't try & potentiate drugs with antidepressants (they do enough to your brain as it is), quinine might work but I don't think very well (unsure as to what effects it has, might wanna look that up).
An inducer would induce the enzyme that metabolises your bupe, so it's counteractive if you wanna get high.
shamus said:Anyone know anything about effective use of the patches?