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Bupe Suboxone/Buprenorphine FAQ and Megathread v.1; 2007 - 2010

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^Yea, but sub doctors are "specialists" and a lot of times psychiatrists too. You'd think they'd have a little extra merit in "specializing" in helping people that stab themselves.
 
Yea its like trying to describe colors to a blind man. I agree with you though. The fact that you're trying to quit, man you get infinite respect from me for that.

I just took 2mg at 8:00 and Im here just to say

HOLY BALLS. I AM STUCK! =D I can't believe only 3 hours have passed it feels like I've been in my bed for days

Ahem. That's it.
 
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Lately I've been experimenting with Loprazolam+Midazolam+Subuetex , all 3 ground up to a fine powder and insufflated ...this combination gets me high as a kyte,far from putting me to sleep it kills all anxiety ,lack of motivation and so forth ...has anybody tried this before ?I'm obviously referring to relatively low doses of these pharms , namely 0.5 mgs Subutex+3mgs Midazolam and 0.25 Loprazolam , I get 3 or 4 medium sized lines out of this and 10 minutes after I do them I'm in heaven , best sedative combo ever ... 0.25 Hydroxyzine oral on top only adds insults to injury ... cheers !!!! Also I'm feeeling very tempted to try 6/7s Subutex alcohol method by adding both Midazolam and loprazolam since I assume they are ethanol soluble,is this true? Actually trying that tomorrow , like dissolving Bupre+Midazolam+Loprazolam in ethanol , toss in some cotton and then just place it under my tongue ... hope it works half as good as insufflation of those does.
 
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fistful_of_needles said:
Lately I've been experiementing with Loprazolam+Midazolam+Subuetex , all 3 ground up to a fine powder and insufflated ...this combination gets me high as a kyte,far from putting me to sleep it kills all anxiety ,lack of motivation and so forth ...has anybody tried this before ?I'm obviously referring to relatively low doses of these pharms , namely 0.5 mgs Subutex+3mgs Midazolam and 0.25 Loprazolam , I get 3 or 4 medium sized lines out of this and 10 minutes after I do them I'm in heaven , best sedative combo ever ... 0.25 Hydroxyzine oral on top only adds insults to injury ... cheers !!!! Also I'm feeeling very tempted to try 6/7s Subutex alcohol method by adding both Midazolam and loprazolam since I assume they are ethanol soluble,is this true? Actually trying that tomorrow , like dissolving Bupre+Midazolam+Loprazolam in ethanol , toss in some cotton and then just place it under my tongue ... hope it works half as better as insufflation of those does.
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Just use 40% vodka since midazolam is water soluble and lorazepam is ethanol soluble, I don't know about midaz being alcohol soluble as well (probably is) but if you stick with vodka it takes care of it all either way.
 
DexterMeth said:
That's pretty much my same story. My doc was a fucking cunt. He treated me like I owed him shit. I made him rich, what a prick. I know it's so hard to talk for literally less than 5 minutes, and usually about football..FUCK! OMFG! OH NOEWWS! I always had a decent stash of subs saved up just incase i had to do an emergency taper/detox, and the doctor wouldn't help...like if you were in the hospital for trying to kill yourself with heroin. (I dunno, just an example)..and still, WHY THE FUCK should they NOT help you then of ALL times? Seems like if they were really your doctor, they'd not only be talking to ER/ICU, but possibly see you since it was a matter of life and death. Whatever, I'm not going to let this shit get to me again...Comes with the territory of overly presumptious and self rightious cunts of being "suboxone doctors"...lol, more like a shrink.
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The most fucked up part was that the emergency room I was being held in is part of the same hospital the buprenorphine program and my bupe doctor at the time are part of. The ER staff was pure shit and I wasn't there for any reason related to opiate or other illicit drugs (being drunk in public was the main reason, not that i was near sick or dying). I immediately notified them I was on suboxone maintenance and needed to take my next dose when they informed me the ER wasn't licensed to prescribe it. WHAT THE FUCK, this is a major hospital and ER in Manhattan. I told them to contact the bupe program and my doctor in the next building so I could get my meds. They kept making promises and of course I never got shit, was barely allowed to make phone calls, then when I was in pretty bad WD feeling like shit they decided to transfer me to a psych hospital (for no good reason other than the new doctor who saw me for 5 minutes was 'concerned' about my mental state- I was in fucking WD after the ER was holding me there just making me worse, ugh) where I again didn't get bupe until the next day at the other hospital.

So my ex-bupe doctor calls me the next day at the other hospital saying he heard about the incident and was very concerned. I asked him why he didn't walk downstairs to check on his patient and give me some suboxone and he blamed it on me for not calling his emergency pager number. The guy knew I was there, I didn't have access to my possessions let alone his card with the number, and the staff was awful and would barely let me make two phone calls. Then he has the nerve to tell me he would refuse to continue to provide bupe unless I went into a 30 day rehab. If he was so damn concerned why didn't he do shit while I was in the ER WDing at the same damn hospital he works at? He was also being a controlling prick about me signing a release form for him at the psych hospital and before I could say I would sign it he goes on saying my permission is just a professional courtesy and he can go behind my back and get it. I made sure he never did, the next time he called saying the same rehab shit which he was talking to my psychiatrist about, with no legal right to, and tried to tell me my psychiatrist would stop treating me too (which wasn't true but I got rid of them both anyway). I politely told him to fuck off, hung up, and terminated all communications rights he had.

The community of bupe doctors is pretty small, are there some sites where you can rate doctors and write comments about them? This really had my blood boiling at the time and now that I think about the experience again makes me extremely angry. I wonder if it is malpractice lawsuit worthy since it directly led to my relapse and aside from that was wrong on many levels and so many people screwed up leading me to get worse the course of my stay.

After the forced WD from being held in the ER I finally got my first suboxone dose three and a half days later after also skipping my dose the day I got sent to the ER and I GOT HIGH AS A KITE. Tasting the high again combined with not wanting to rely on bupe, awful doctors and hospital staff after that experience led me to start tapering once I was out. When I was at 2mg and started to feel a little bit of the high again it was over and I went out and found heroin.
 
Oxymorphone said:
Just use 40% vodka since midazolam is water soluble and lorazepam is ethanol soluble, I don't know about midaz being alcohol soluble as well (probably is) but if you stick with vodka it takes care of it all either way.
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He's talking about loprazolam. It's water soluble; it's in the same category of benzos as midazolam is, which is also water soluble.

Loprazolam is one of the largest molecules for a benzo. Lorazepam is much smaller, typical benzo molecule structure.

loprazolam ->
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lorazepam ->
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^Yeah, I think loprazolam is actually more soluble in water than ethanol...
 
Is anyone else going through this when they fuck wit bupe. Every once in a while i feel like I'm fighting my own eyes to stay open. :\
 
^ yes, occasionally I feel like I'm almost nodding out on Heroin for a few minutes. especially if I'm already tired from the gym or doing something strenuous. I've been on Suboxone for almost a year too so it's definitely not just me still getting used to it.
 
DangerChamber said:
I just wonder if anyone's eyelids spontaneously get heavy for a couple of seconds a minute and then subside. Like I'm walking down the street and i can barely keep my eyes open
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Yeah, bupe seems to be one of the more noddy substances that I have tried, even in relatively low doses.
 
DangerChamber said:
I just wonder if anyone's eyelids spontaneously get heavy for a couple of seconds a minute and then subside. Like I'm walking down the street and i can barely keep my eyes open
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LOL Yeah, but you're probably taking a relatively high dose.

How much do you take for that to happen?

It happens more for me at night, and especially if I've also had a benzo.
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