Pink Champagne Meth-is there anything special about it other than the color?

[blk_ice360]

Deep web?? Yeah right.

 

[Rybee]

Deep web?? Yeah right.

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[ProfessorGoad]

Care to expand a little...

There is a place called the deep web. It can not be accessed through any surface web browser. The deep web is a very curious place where visitors sometimes wind up in jail. Imagine The entire web as a big Ol Red ONION wheRe mOst Users jusT travEl the suRface, others tunnel through into the deep web. Good times for the right (and very expensive) price.

 

[unodelacosa]

How old is this?

Old. Last post before yours was in early 2014.

I mean do they still make those weak pink pseudo ephedrine pills anymore?

Yes, they still use that coloring in Sudofed, its formulations, and similar medications.

I haven't seen those in the longest except for on the internet.

They put them behind the counter circa 2005 in pharmacies across the U.S. and they keep track of its sale in an effort to catch/thwart domestic meth producers.

And I'm talking about prior 2004.

Yeah that's about right. It's a giant pain-in-the-ass to procure any substantial amount of ephedrine, norephedrine (PPA), and/or pseudoephedrine in the U.S. anymore… Phenylacetone routes lack enantiomeric specificity… And copping meth from sources leading back to Mexican drug cartels is nowhere near idealyc as far as I'm concerned (though the cartels would likely differ in their opinion of this I imagine). Le sigh.

 

[AutoTripper]

Just for record sake when I grow up pink champagne I believe was simply the nickname for the combination of MDMA and amphetamine in a pink format but I’m a little foggy on that right now being decades ago.

 

[unodelacosa]

pink champagne I believe was simply the nickname for the combination of MDMA and amphetamine in a pink format

I remember this stuff. Wasn't too bad, either.

 

[dextroisomer]

Old. Last post before yours was in early 2014.


Yes, they still use that coloring in Sudofed, its formulations, and similar medications.


They put them behind the counter circa 2005 in pharmacies across the U.S. and they keep track of its sale in an effort to catch/thwart domestic meth producers.


Yeah that's about right. It's a giant pain-in-the-ass to procure any substantial amount of ephedrine, norephedrine (PPA), and/or pseudoephedrine in the U.S. anymore… Phenylacetone routes lack enantiomeric specificity… And copping meth from sources leading back to Mexican drug cartels is nowhere near idealyc as far as I'm concerned (though the cartels would likely differ in their opinion of this I imagine). Le sigh.

I guess I meant to say 2004. I created this account earlier or around that time.
I don't know exactly the date.
I meant, how old is the saying that the red pseudo ephedrine rolls into pink meth.

 

[AutoTripper]

I remember this stuff. Wasn't too bad, either.

Yes it had a fairly respectable relationship I recall.I’m not 100 % it wasn’t cocaine and MDMA or amphetamine now, but I recall it being a popular treat.

 

[dextroisomer]

Old. Last post before yours was in early 2014.


Yes, they still use that coloring in Sudofed, its formulations, and similar medications.


They put them behind the counter circa 2005 in pharmacies across the U.S. and they keep track of its sale in an effort to catch/thwart domestic meth producers.


Yeah that's about right. It's a giant pain-in-the-ass to procure any substantial amount of ephedrine, norephedrine (PPA), and/or pseudoephedrine in the U.S. anymore… Phenylacetone routes lack enantiomeric specificity… And copping meth from sources leading back to Mexican drug cartels is nowhere near idealyc as far as I'm concerned (though the cartels would likely differ in their opinion of this I imagine). Le sigh.

I just miss how awesome the stuff was during my days in 1998 to 2003. Not the same anymore.

 

[unodelacosa]

I guess I meant to say 2004. I created this account earlier or around that time.

The site (on desktop, at least) says you joined Bluelight Apr 11, 2009.

I don't know exactly the date.

FTFY

I meant, how old is the saying that the red pseudo ephedrine rolls into pink meth.

That's a saying? Lol, I'm not sure when that became widely known among domestic meth producers (some use the term "cooks" but I'm not a fan), but from the best my memory serves, I want to say I've heard this nugget of clandestine wisdom since at least somewhere in 1998 or 1999. Seems like it was discussed on The Hive, and possibly on the Newsgroup, alt.drugs.chemsitry (the a.d.c.) perhaps usenet before that, but I'm almost certain I first read this over on The Hive forum circa late 90s/early 2000s

 

[dextroisomer]

The site (on desktop, at least) says you joined Bluelight Apr 11, 2009.


FTFY


That's a saying? Lol, I'm not sure when that became widely known among domestic meth producers (some use the term "cooks" but I'm not a fan), but from the best my memory serves, I want to say I've heard this nugget of clandestine wisdom since at least somewhere in 1998 or 1999. Seems like it was discussed on The Hive, and possibly on the Newsgroup, alt.drugs.chemsitry (the a.d.c.) perhaps usenet before that, but I'm almost certain I first read this over on The Hive forum circa late 90s/early 2000s

Thanks for helping remember when I joined BL.

 

[unodelacosa]

I just miss how awesome the stuff was during my days in 1998 to 2003. Not the same anymore.

Highly subjective. Smoking weed back then sucked comparatively. Getting the seeds outta Mexican ditch weed and overpaying for "Beasters"/B.C. nugs was a lame fuckaround, if you recall. MDMA pills were $30 and there was a confidence-shaking chance the pill would be bunk… Acid was weaker, too. Used to be the de facto dose was two hits, b/c there wasn't ever any acid around that you could call one-hitter quitter. There were exceptions, obviously, I'm just talking about what I saw as the norm back then, and it was lower quality and value then what's come about since then, largely due to the wonder known as the Dark Net Markets, which have stiffened competition for drug dealers and lead to an increase in overall purity levels, reliability, affordability, and accessibility to the general public. Meanwhile, law enforcement budgets are being shrunk at a time when decriminalizing things seems fairly reasonable in the public's mind…

These are good times if you ask me, better than what our memories can fool us into believing. Nostalgia is an emotion we associated with good feelings, but try to think objectively about it if you can

Edit: I will concede this… there was once a time when someone could walk into a Wally World at any hour of the day and procure everything one would need to manufacture quality meth from pseudoephedrine via an improvised Nagai reduction with HI acid or an improvised "shake-n-bake" Birch reduction.

 

[AutoTripper]

I just miss how awesome the stuff was during my days in 1998 to 2003. Not the same anymore.

I had some truly world geating magical ecstasy pills and pure powder, crystal too in those years. At least LSD is still some seriously good shut hey?

 

[unodelacosa]

At least LSD is still some seriously good shut hey?

Amen.

 

[unodelacosa]

Well the ecstasy was nothing but pure magic orgasms.

That's maybe laying it on a bit thick there… memories tend toward exaggeration… man, if only a drug really could consistently and ubiquitously produce nonstop orgasm for four hours… holy fuck, perhaps literally

The crystal was potently euphoric and consistent. I did not have to worry if the meth was going to be shitty because mostly what was taken was amazing stuff.

Ooh, maybe for you and me it was that way, but some of the domestic production supply was disgusting and filled with really bad, foul, and toxic-to-the-body garbage. Hillbilly crank and the sort was getting really gross until production shifted to Mexico thanks to U.S. legislation regarding pseudoephedrine.

I do see your point there, though. But overall, things are still better, I think, with few exceptions.

The E pills few were the times they bunk but when they weren't, omg.

WTF – am I somehow the only person in the U.S. that has a solid connection on really high quality MDMA that makes me roll my fucking tits off just as hard as I did back in the 90s? I guess I got lucky or something with my source, idk, but I don't see why so many ppl think MDMA was better in years past. I can only figure they aren't comparing apples to apples, and hence why there's a super long thread about just that topic… odd.

It went beyond the exact definition of ecstasy.

You really don't think you're maybe exaggerating a little bit here? I mean, goddamn; let's read that definition in fact:

Ecstasy | ˈekstəsē | noun (plural ecstasies) "1. an overwhelming feeling of great happiness or joyful excitement; 2. an emotional or religious frenzy or trance-like state, originally one involving an experience of mystic self-transcendence."

So you're saying it went beyond that for you?

Also, I just want to point out the vast array of available compounds these days compared to the small selection we had to choose from in the 90s…

 

[AutoTripper]

Well the ecstasy was nothing but pure magic orgasms. The crystal was potently euphoric and consistent. I did not have to worry if the meth was going to be shitty because mostly what was taken was amazing stuff. The E pills few were the times they bunk but when they weren't, omg. It went beyond the exact definition of ecstasy.

We were lucky to have this very local annual illegal but police tolerated massive gypsy run summer UK festival called Exosus, with literally hundreds of fantastic teepees and allsorts of musical rigs plus the most incredible drugs in the world in particular MDMA like I cannot believe could possibly be better and will stick in my memory for all time that was in 1999 and 2000.

Literally every 10 foot you would come across some incredible pure MDMA pills that would get you rushing off your absolute nut for hours on end with no come down at all.

Really amazing old-fashioned skunk then to which really would trip you out like any other drug just by itself but in the most wonderful way.

Still things change and at least we have our memories to be thankful of.

just plugged 600 legit micro grams LSD here recently, 1.5 times stronger IME, already sky high on weed vapor and kava,,So please excuse any silly typos

 

[unodelacosa]

just plugged 600 legit micro grams LSD here recently, 1.5 times stronger IME

Just to be clear here, you're saying that suitcasing 600 mics of LSD is your prefered route of administration because it's 1.5 times stronger in your experience? So you'll do that as opposed to taking 50% more LSD? Is that not worth saving yourself the discomfort of putting something in your asshole? If nothing else, can we at least agree that this is not a very social RoA? Kinda impolite at the dinner table, wouldn't you say? I'm not trying to knock rectal administration which is ok once in a while I guess just to change it up and remind yourself why you don't normally do that, but dammit man, I don't get how there are so many ppl who's go-to move for taking a drug is boofing…

Does that seem kind of hilariously improbable to anyone else? I just wouldn't have guessed it would be so popular 20 years ago if you had asked me, but then I wouldn't have thought Donald Trump could've ever been elected President of the U.S. one day, nor that global pandemics could still happen so suddenly and dramatically, and the popularity of incest-fetish porn absolutely baffles me, too. Not its existence, just its sheer popularity. I mean, goddamn, really? Not that I really care; these things just mildly surprise me.

 

[Freudzilla]

There is a place called the deep web. It can not be accessed through any surface web browser. The deep web is a very curious place where visitors sometimes wind up in jail. Imagine The entire web as a big Ol Red ONION wheRe mOst Users jusT travEl the suRface, others tunnel through into the deep web. Good times for the right (and very expensive) price.

Way to be discrete with your message there.. I would’ve never figured it out without my secret agent decoder ring..

 

[AutoTripper]

Just to be clear here, you're saying that suitcasing 600 mics of LSD is your prefered route of administration because it's 1.5 times stronger in your experience? So you'll do that as opposed to taking 50% more LSD? Is that not worth saving yourself the discomfort of putting something in your asshole? If nothing else, can we at least agree that this is not a very social RoA? Kinda impolite at the dinner table, wouldn't you say? I'm not trying to knock rectal administration which is ok once in a while I guess just to change it up and remind yourself why you don't normally do that, but dammit man, I don't get how there are so many ppl who's go-to move for taking a drug is boofing…

Does that seem kind of hilariously improbable to anyone else? I just wouldn't have guessed it would be so popular 20 years ago if you had asked me, but then I wouldn't have thought Donald Trump could've ever been elected President of the U.S. one day, nor that global pandemics could still happen so suddenly and dramatically, and the popularity of incest-fetish porn absolutely baffles me, too. Not its existence, just its sheer popularity. I mean, goddamn, really? Not that I really care; these things just mildly surprise me.

It’s really not just a quantile thing though as my highly tripping brain tried to explain. The absence of any nausea, slight comeup restlessness and anxiety, and increasingly rising joyful rise, not just saving a % of my tabs.

 

[unodelacosa]

It’s really not just a quantile thing though as my highly tripping brain tried to explain.

I’m pretty sure these are lyrics to an 80s pop song that early-adopted “rap” vocals… Blondie or someone ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

The absence of any nausea, slight comeup restlessness and anxiety, and increasingly rising joyful rise, not just saving a % of my tabs.

Ok so you’re telling me you get nausea if you swallow down your tabs of acid, but not when administered rectally, is that it? I suspect you’ve either caused this effect through placebo and expectations, or I simply don’t know the superiority of plugging tabs of acid in my asshole, which seems like an idiotic way to dose something as potent as LSD. I mean, if you’re just trying to avoid putting the LSD in contact with your gut, why not just dose sublingually?

Either way, the stomach’s lining contains serotonin, and often times serotonergic drugs will cause nausea just from being in the peripheral nervous system, and/or by direct agonism of the 5-HT3 serotonin subtype which regulates nausea. Mescaline is a good example of this, as many ppl get nauseated from it, at least during the come up. LSD typically doesn’t do this though. Mushrooms can cause nausea via serotonergic action and/or by the fact that the mushroom fibers and spores aren’t digestible by most mammals (which is why they pass through a cow’s digestive system unscathed and surrounded by fertilizer; hence why mushrooms grow in cow patties).

Personally I think of rectal administration as an alternative to intravenous injection. The near-immediate onset of IV isn’t replicable but in general, risk / harm potential is at least reduced a good deal. I’m not invalidating this ROA; I’m just pointing out that with LSD, there is no immediate onset ROA that I know of, and even if there were, so what? That’s not the point of LSD. Inhale ~50mg of vaporized DMT freebase for near-instant tripping, right?

I don’t think you’re accomplishing any nausea avoidance going this route. But then LSD doesn’t nauseate me, and never has. Granted it’s not an appetite-inducing drug either, but all the same, with few exceptions I don’t believe LSD is known to cause nausea regularly. But now I’m curious about your logistics. Do you just place a couple blotter tabs directly into your rectum, or do you soak the blotter in ~2mL of distilled water, draw the water into an oral syringe, and then boof that magic dragon? If the latter, you are using distilled water, right? Small amounts of chlorine can fuck up the small amount of LSD in tabs of acid, after all.

Idk maybe it’s just me, but that sounds like a completely unnecessary, functionally useless, and uncomfortable route for administration of LSD, and I’m doubtful regarding your claims of bioavailability increase.

Mind you: I’m not saying you’re making this up; rather, it seems kind of like a placebo effect based on preconceived expectations. Just my proverbial $0.02, but... don’t put LSD in your asshole; put it under your tongue for a few minutes, then chew it up and swallow it down. Or just swallow it immediately. Real acid will come on regardless, while NBomes and the like are destroyed by first-pass metabolism.

I guess it’s worth mentioning that I’m middle-aged AF, and my generation tends to view this ROA harshly. I like to think I’m more open-minded, but I’m willing to admit I could be lying to myself there and I just don’t know it. But from my perspective, preference for rectal administration seems to run along generational lines with Gen Z and Millennials very accepting of it, while Gen X and Baby Boomers are much more apprehensive and view boofing as the borderline insane actions of someone with an odd drug problem.

Personally, I see what both sides of the argument are saying but I lean toward agreeing with the younger generations on this one. This is not one of those instances though, bc to me it’s absurd to put something active in the microgram range into your butt. Different strokes for different folks though I guess.