☮ Social ☮ PD Social Distancing Tripping Thread: Viruses Can't Penetrate Hyperspace

[PYTH]

I would say 100%. It could be from general psychedelic use, lifestyle changes, etc. but I can't get back to many of the same places with DMT that I could when I started my ketamine habit. That combo though... with the right doses it vibrates and scans through every cell in my mind and body in such a completely unreal way, I can't imagine what's happening in the brain. I suspect it's goofin' with stuff upstairs more heavily than K or DMT alone.

Anything that invokes permatolerance so severely is definitely messing with the wiring.

 

[TripSitterNZ]

i guess i will find out whenever i find the time to delve into LSD again. But after that half tab trip and so many k holes that also took me into past lsd trips fuck ketamine is truly crazy stuff. Im just a bit worried about delving in anytime soon. I think im feeling alcohol and cannabis withdrawals also so i want to reset myself when the time is right.

Something inside me just feels a bit jarred after some tough parts of my trips and ketamine just melting my brain into oblivion that i know can only be fixed by having a good trip once i rest up. Music doesn't sound as vibrant as it use to be. Still have a few things in life to sort next week so maybe aiming for a lighter trip before new years to test the waters with everything that has been going on inside my mind to cleanse it out a bit then dose heavy later on in jan.

Near the end of the ketamine bender i was truly done in one k hole i was like i can't keep doing this amount of drugs the brain can only handle so much heavy out of this world mind bending stuff. Yet other parts of myself feel better than they ever have as i reintegrated back into society and social life it was a challenge trying to act human again but also how quickly i could pick things up again within a few weeks of trying every day. But during this reset moment i think i let too many bad habbits settle into that reformation period you have after a trip or k holes. Cannabis i found once i developed a tolerance again to be very enjoyable and but very noticeable slow down on my cognitive abilities for myself and destroying my memory. Body still aches and headaches from that liquor.

Went swimming during that acid trip aswell and that was alot of fun but have to be careful about body temp regulation. tried to catch a fish with my bare hands on acid to see if i could pull of some insane stuff. Also won a fair decent amount of money at the casino while i was sober.

 

[Xorkoth]

Wow this MXiPr really does work quite well for gabapentin/phenibut withdrawal. Woke up feeling sketchy, ate 25mg and now I feel really buzzy but nice. Makes it bearable, my restless limb energy feels calm.

 

[Img_9999]

You mentioned doing some K after trying DMT in the other thread, do yourself a favor and rip that stuff on K if you haven't yet. Strap in though, it's much less intense and terrifying than DMT on its own but you'll end up in another world. Light doses are great, heavy doses are intense but great, being able to redose is the best (maybe not a great idea playing with fire that high)... I'd write a book mapping the terrain but the K makes it all pretty ephemeral. If you hit it right the euphoria is unreal and it completely cleans out the K comedown.

edit: I lied, it can be ridiculously intense, but definitely less terrifying and assaultive.

I've probably clocked well over 100hours in that heavy visual space by now.

I don't endorse anyone starting a K habit but if you're going to do it anyway...

Disso + Tryptamine combos are the craziest shit. I had an insanely intense and vivid hole after IM'ing 80 mg Ket at the tail end of a 25 mg 4-HO-MET trip. I posted about it here , it was a couple of months ago. Experiencing alternate lifetimes kind of shit. Still processing some of the stuff I lived.

 

[perpetualdawn]

@Buzz Lightbeer I don't even know where to begin. I find 5-MeO-DMT the hardest psychedelic to talk about. It's effective. I really do recommend it. If you can handle 100mg of DPT you should have no troubles with a proper dose of 5-MeO-DMT. I would recommend titrating up carefully over a series of trials though, it does seem to be one that warrants some caution.

 

[Xorkoth]

Fuck, I'm a mess right now. So yesterday while my girl was at work, I was trying to make it nice for when she got home. The other day I soaked my shoes and slippers in OxyClean water, to kill the foot smell germs. She hates the smell of OxyClean. Earlier in the day I had tried to finish drying my slippers out, but the upstairs fan heater stopped working and I was cold, so I ran it downstairs, and then aired out the house for hours. I could barely smell it. I had a nice fire going and was anticipating a nice night of hanging out on the couch and snuggling for warmth and watching TV and such. But it was not to be. My girl has this thing that I have read about, where her trauma somehow got all wrapped up in her sense of smell (I forget what it's called but it's a real thing, where people with childhood PTSD become insanely sensitive to smells and negative smells trigger immense anxiety). If it smells bad (to her), she cannot be happy. Well I have never seen anything like what happened, usually she'll become sad and anxious, but this time she became enraged, I've never seen her so angry before. She had all the doors open for hours and it was like 40 degrees inside. She was running around slamming doors and crying and shit, saying she wanted to slam her head against the wall because it bothered her so bad. I was trying to be understanding but... it was nuts. I can't claim to understand how a smell you don't like can affect you so intensely. I'm too much like a sponge, I soak up the emotions of others, and I just could not handle it, it was really disturbing, although she wasn't really being mean to me, just rather psychotically angry around me. Eventually I went to sleep, and woke up at like 5:30 in the morning, restless, feeling incredibly anxious, withdrawing from gabapentin/phenibut. My girlfriend was doing a little better but still in a bad mood. She claimed she could still smell it, although I can't smell it even a tiny little bit. But she does have the nose of a bloodhound.

Anyway as I mentioned in an earlier post, I took some MXiPr this morning to combat the withdrawal, as I've been doing periodically throughout the last 4 days. Took 25mg, which is not very much, and got SUPER dissociated, it was nuts, and went on a really intense negative inward journey. Too much negativity around me, I couldn't handle it. Eventually took some phenibut which I think is kicking in now finally. Also came down for the most part. What a fucked up morning.

Time to work now. I feel rattled. I've never seen my girlfriend so scary before. Kinda kicked up trauma for me honestly. If I didn't have trauma related to my partner being angry I probably would have handled it a lot better. Not cool.

At least I made it 4 days without phenibut, and just minimal gabapentin. This sucks. Can't wait to be past this.

 

[psy997]

From following your posts about your girlfriend for a while, I'm not surprised she erupted in rage. On one hand, it's terrible that her emotions came out in that way and affected you so much. On the other hand, it may actually be good for her well-being that so much rage finally came out (I imagine there's rage that needs to be expressed about her father).

I hope your morning turns around, brother

 

[Xorkoth]

That's a good point actually, thanks. It doesn't really help me feel better but it does provide some perspective. That shit triggered me hard though, it's just brought up all this trauma from my ex exploding at me over dumb shit. I don't mean to say it's dumb that she got angry but specifically it's that I was trying to make everything nice for when she got home and then me doing an innocuous thing caused all this rage. I am trying to get past it but I'm pretty much consumed with anxiety right now. I just want to curl into a ball and do nothing but work is GO GO GO OMG DEADLINES RIGHT NAO. Per usual.

Fuck I haven't felt this unbalanced in a while. I think you're right that it's good that she is able to express these emotions. But it is not cool how I feel right now. I'm like right back in that place of feeling powerless and frustrated and hopeless. I don't think I should feel that way but I don't know how to not right now.

It really doesn't help at all that I'm rapidly tapering from gabapentin, and have been consistently on some amount of dissociatives for 4 days. That probably has a lot to do with it.

 

[perpetualdawn]

Sounds harsh @Xorkoth. I've had stuff like that happen with my wife, less and less as we're getting older thank fuck, but I can relate. Usually she doesn't acknowledge it after the fact either, which makes it harder to deal with. The weird thing is that in our relationship when she behaves like that, the only way to "make it better" is usually for me to apologize for the thing I did that triggered her into an insane rage. Imbalanced, but relationships aren't perfect.

Sometimes it's good when life circumstances won't let you curl into that ball and do nothing. Sometimes stuff just needs some time to dissipate and a distraction helps that process unfold naturally without having your mind hash over it all and knit more and more karma onto it. But there's a balance between repression/denial and giving stuff the attention it needs in order to actually heal and not become a permanent fixture. Tricky that, can't say I've mastered it.

 

[Xorkoth]

The weird thing is that in our relationship when she behaves like that, the only way to "make it better" is usually for me to apologize for the thing I did that triggered her into an insane rage. Imbalanced, but relationships aren't perfect.

My ex did that all the time, god I swallowed my pride and had to "admit" that I was a piece of shit and had no regard for her and so on and so forth, so many times. Thankfully my girlfriend didn't do that to me at all, she got home from work a little bit ago and said she was anxious about it all day, and I told her how I was feeling but that it's not her fault it triggered me so much because she should express her feelings. She apologized and that was that. I knew that was how it would go, too. We didn't actually get in a fight, she was just really angry and it was hard to be around. I'm actually really lucky that she is so reasonable all the time with me... like her response to the bad smell was illogical, but it wasn't directed at me. I'm quite sure it was directed at her dad/her past. If she started being mean to me on purpose for this kind of stuff, I would probably break up with her. The fact that she has never done that is like right at the top of the list (along with some other qualities she has) as to why I want to stay with her.

I feel a lot better now. I think doing MXiPr for 4 days in a row (and like, doses throughout the day) was making me a little loopy. I have noticed my head getting clearer as time goes on. Either way it was upsetting but the out of control reaction I had might not have been so bad. I was uncontrollably imaning just kicking someone's ass, punching them in the face... not my girlfriend, like a random person. Sometimes her dad. But I couldn't stop, it was pretty disturbing. I could see myself reacting like an animal out of fear/need to not be that person I was then anymore. But there was nothing I could do about it.

 

[Cream Gravy?]

We didn't actually get in a fight, she was just really angry and it was hard to be around.

This sounds so much like my wife and me... "fighting," if you can ever call it that. I'm emotionally codependent on her and her mood, I treat her amazingly (most of the time at least) and she well, treats me as a human male I suppose. If she gets extremely stressed and starts freaking out, I'm immediately apologizing for things I never even did, in a desperate attempt to get her to be in an acceptable emotional state so that I can be too.

It sounds so, so fucking terrible when I write it out. But I really do love her, and her me. And I know I do the same thing... I'll get stuck in anxiety loops where she has in essence told me she won't be around me anymore unless I go take a rapid acting benzo.

I guess I'm just trying to say I can empathize with your situation Xork. Mrs. Gravy will get super moody about stuff and shut down on me and I'll feel like I'm on an emotional 'hold' until I can get her to tell me why she's upset or what I can do to make it better. 9/10 times it has nothing to do with me, but I just pick up the vibes so hard from her when she's in a bad state and I find myself completely swayed by however she is feeling one moment to the next.

 

[Xorkoth]

Yeah I get held hostage by others' emotions so easily, that I do it to myself mostly. It happens in any social situations, if people are being really excessively negative it is really hard for me to not be affected by it. Same for positive emotions, too.

 

[cosmic charlie]

How long before aMT/5-CL-aMT you need to be following Tyramine restricted diet?

Im gonna start making the adjustments now and just stick to it thru the nexy month as i explore the pair...would waiting a week after eating corned beef or something be sufficient. Gonna eating hella chicken, rice and veggies i suppose. Ive never messed with MAOi's before aside from T-7 and T-2 to whatever degree they are. I feel like i have to be much more careful with these tho. What kinda food you guys eat in this situation personally?

 

[Xorkoth]

Like a day I think? Tyramine is broken down quickly. I never bothered following it with AMT, but 5-Cl-AMT is unknown so best to follow it for sure. The strict no tyramine diet is mostly important for the irreversible pharma MAOIs, the reversibles like the MAOI tryptamines are not so dangerous as that.

 

[TripSitterNZ]

anybody get terrible anxiety after drinking benders and then getting clean from alcohol? I think i finally pinpointed where all my anxiety was coming from this year i think its alcohol withdrawls after heavy weeks of binge drinking each day.

 

[phenethylo J]

i want some synthetic DMT so i can IV 75mgs...

my vaping technique is poor as well, had some luck with 30-40mgs in Oil Burner with a torch tho. Had this one trip that way where i was traveling through this tunnel full of lights and patterns. Symbols rapidly flashing and rotating Egyptian Hieroglyphics was pretty wild. But i really wanna get some clean stuff and push the plunger down and explode into infinity...

My advice is to sandwich the DMT between something else smokeable in a bowl. I typically use green tea, because I don't like the muddiness that weed brings, though CBD bud can be nice, too. I've almost never had issues with sandwiching in the hundreds of times I've smoked DMT.

edit: Be gentle with it, you want to melt the DMT slowly so that it is totally caught and stuck in the plant material beneath it. Keep the flame as far away as possible when lighting the bowl, especially when you are first lighting it. Don't go for a big first hit. You're trying to introduce just enough heat to melt the crystal onto what's beneath it, but not enough heat for it to run, and on the extreme end, cause pyrolysis.

I found that smoking dmt in a one hitter mixed with mint leaf worked pretty well. Used to love doing it out in the backyard at night and the early morning while tripping or coming down. Was especially nice on those morning when it was very foggy.

 

[Xorkoth]

anybody get terrible anxiety after drinking benders and then getting clean from alcohol? I think i finally pinpointed where all my anxiety was coming from this year i think its alcohol withdrawls after heavy weeks of binge drinking each day.

The more years I get behind me, the worse rebound I get after heavy alcohol usage.

 

[Pfafffed]

Like a day I think? Tyramine is broken down quickly. I never bothered following it with AMT, but 5-Cl-AMT is unknown so best to follow it for sure. The strict no tyramine diet is mostly important for the irreversible pharma MAOIs, the reversibles like the MAOI tryptamines are not so dangerous as that.

I heard 48hrs, but I would have to check to make sure. It might be over-cautious, but I can't say

 

[Pfafffed]

anybody get terrible anxiety after drinking benders and then getting clean from alcohol? I think i finally pinpointed where all my anxiety was coming from this year i think its alcohol withdrawls after heavy weeks of binge drinking each day.

I discovered this year that I was developing mild anxiety in the afternoon every day following alcohol or kava kava use the evening before. It took me a long time to acknowledge and accept the connection.

 

[darkstar51474]

anybody get terrible anxiety after drinking benders and then getting clean from alcohol? I think i finally pinpointed where all my anxiety was coming from this year i think its alcohol withdrawls after heavy weeks of binge drinking each day.

Although I do not drink at all (never really liked it), I could see this being true 100 percent man. Benzos, on the other hand I had a huge problem with for a long time, and CONVINCED myself I had anxiety and even convinced the doctor I did to get scripted benzos. Once I got clean off of em, a year down the road I had a psych Eval done, and they said I did in fact not exhibit traits of any anxiety at all. The anxiety I was percieving was just rebound anxiety from when I woud run out of benzos.