Sprice0524
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You cannot chase a high on subs my friend.
Number one, Suboxone hogs all of the receptor sites which does not let in any other mu receptor welcoming opioids. It's not the naloxone that everyone's afraid of and saying that oh give me Subutex so I can use, no it's simply the fact and this is verifiable that people morphine was designed too hog your opioid receptor sites and it does a dang good job because after so many years of being on it I ate a 30 mg K9 oxy and felt not a thing. Go ahead and try and smoke of fentanyl pill and you'll feel like you've smoked a gang of brown in one sitting but it goes away in minutes so chasing that high ain't worth it to me at 7 to $10 sometimes $15 a pill here in Portland.
And methadone is just like any other drug that works on brain receptors and receptors in the spinal cord in that as tolerance goes up your not going to be feeling it like you did at the beginning. So let's be honest here pal, chasing highs is for people who want to shoot speedballs and take handfuls of benzos while on their methadone like I did along with a lot of my friends I made at the clinic. Suboxone on the other hand is a way to train the brain chemistry although it is only a partial agonist at the MU receptor which is the same receptor that most opioids work at, so that while you are keeping your brain happy and your body happy, you can work on getting your life back together and join a support group and make use of the counselor and the doctors knowledge of your brain chemistry and how the Suboxone is working, instead of running around like an idiot boosting and fencing crap or spending $1,500 a month on your habit and keeping your friends and family scared of you and out of your life. And mind you buprenorphine whether with naloxone or not, because it does not block opioids in that form. The pharmacists or whoever the people in the lab who came up with it added the naloxone, because it was used for blocking opioid action at the mu receptor with its cousin narcan, I heard they were also using it along with now tracks on to deter alcoholics from drinking before they came up with anabuse. This is all info that I gleaned from my doctor visits and stuff I have read on reputable sites and even here on blue light but feel free to delve in to the world of brain chemistry research and opioid activity at the mu receptor. Also Suboxone bottom line has a ceiling effect and is only a partial agonist meaning it does not get you high, no matter how much you take. I've tried amongst others, to just waste my meds. Full opioid agonists are capable of that in respective doses. That's why Suboxone for me, after having done two substantial stints at methadone clinics while on benzos the entire time, has changed my brain chemistry to keep me from wanting opioids. The thing about methadone is that you may not want other opioids right away but after a while once you get around the wrong people or your brain starts to work overtime thinking about the good old days you will crave them and be looking for a shot even right after drinking your juice in the morning and popping your first benzo and phenergan, which shouldn't be left out of the conversation as it is the best friend to the methadone patient. I can remember trading or just buying a 50 mg phenergan or as it's known as promethazine at the clinic hanging out smoking after group and taking a ride back to my house or someone's pad and going into a deep nod for a good 2 hours. That's what I call chasing the high dude. We call it the no fail cocktail: your methadone or a shot of black or opioid of your choice, Plus a high-powered benzo-like clonazepam or xanax I always prefer clonazepam because it has a 60 hour half life as opposed to a 10-hour half life like Xanax and it acts almost immediately and then the last oh sorry the second to last being 25 to 50 mg of phenergan and of course some good old-fashioned catapres/clonodine .2 mg if you can talk your doctor into it. Or just eat two .1 mgs. To make the cocktail complete. they dissolve under your tongue like magic, thee clonidine. I think I have laid out the true definition of chasing a high which will put you somewhere safe sitting down with your cigarette burning your fingers waking you up.
Perhaps for someone who has no tolerance to opioids buprenorphine can give them a nice feeling the first couple times but after that if you're looking to get loaded well there's plenty of ways on this site to learn how to do that. I just explained what we kids in Portland were doing back in 2007
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