Benzos Methadone + Xanax = Lethal ?

[debaser]

Me too

 

[DistyBoi]

There's no danger in mixing two benzos at this dose, although 5mg of Xanax is over the top and definitely not the same as 5mg of Valium. Remember, everything is poison, nothing is poison, it's the dose that makes the poison.

5mg of xanax is at least 7x stronger than 5mg diazepam. With no tollerance to either benzos or opiates you are just asking for trouble at doses this high. Xanax seems to be particularly bad safety wise for combining with opiates.

 

[DoctorChemX]

BuddingPharmacist, you need to befriend me a bit better bro,
then you can tell me where i can find kratom, i'll give it a try.

Benzo's i find to be fantastic, they make my day a breaze,
no worries or anything, peaceful tranquility, although this
morning i wokeup after 10 hours sleep thinking it was 6 pm
at night and that i had fallen asleep two hours earlier at 4!!!!!!!!!!

I Think xanax might have something to do with that LOL, i need
to not take much at night, but it makes me sleep like a baby!!!!!

Peace brothers.

 

[debaser]

Yeah Boi, I know, bad combo.

Hey DCX, nice you're well and in safety

Peace too

 

[blurrrxx]

yes...

 

[debaser]

Wut? Wut you want? Have you got a problem we could help you with?

 

[DistyBoi]

^ Yeah, a problem you can help me with is I can't get an erection because I injected Xanax down my bellend. I was told this would "chill out" my penis so it could finally stop getting angry at me and hopefully stop biting and ripping my pubes out during lectures. It's still doing this, however.

Seriously though, opiates and benzos might feel nice, but in terms of harm reduction its an extremely bad idea to even contemplate unless a doctor gives it to you.

 

[debaser]

Mais lol. distyboi you're cracking, mon chou.

 

[Golf]

I took methadone and midazolam together once in high dose and ended up od. and had a kidney failure so i guess its dangerous in high dose of methadone.

 

[DoctorChemX]

^ Yeah, a problem you can help me with is I can't get an erection because I injected Xanax down my bellend. I was told this would "chill out" my penis so it could finally stop getting angry at me and hopefully stop biting and ripping my pubes out during lectures. It's still doing this, however.

Seriously though, opiates and benzos might feel nice, but in terms of harm reduction its an extremely bad idea to even contemplate unless a doctor gives it to you.

Seriously dude, i have given up opiates FOR GOOD yeah they might make you feel calm and
emotionally happy, but unlike stimulants they don't give you immense enenergy and euphoria
and make you feel on top of the world like superman, like king of the cosmos. Plus they fuck
with your body so much it's like it takes years to come off them, fucking poisonous shit.

For me, benzos and amphetamines are the drugs i'll take daily for the rest of my life, and i will
take powerful non-addictive psychedelics on an occasional basis, for a mind trip, other than
that please don't inject anything into your dick man, only the most desperate and repulsive
junkies start putting things into there cock when all there other veins are nowhere to be found.

I've never considered injecting any benzo's, i don't even know the effects, i've heard that xanax
isn't soluble in water though, at all whatsoever, so injecting it might cause an issue. TBH A Good
dose of meth or dex with viagra will have your dick in a magic state, cumming every five minutes
either with your miss's or watching porn, it's the best sex combo ever! Fucking awesome sex drug!

Oh and yeah, amphetamines make my sex drive superpotent, opiates make it non-existing, shit !!!!!

- Peace Brothers -

 

[DoctorChemX]

I took methadone and midazolam together once in high dose and ended up od. and had a kidney failure so i guess its dangerous in high dose of methadone.

Thanks for the info bro. I Believe midazolam is the most potent benzodiazepine
availibl so i am not surprised you ended up with kidney failure. It goods to hear
posts like yours and mines and others who take benzos with methadone, since it's
so dangerous, we have to convince others not to do it, how did you get the midazolam
may i ask? As here in Australia they usually only use it in injection form, in hospital.

- Peace -

 

[Miss Kirsty]

wow thanks for this....Im on 115mg methadone a day and never really worried that taking a valium or 4 would be a big problem...I used to take lots of vals at a time before i was on MMP and didnt put friggen two and two together...My god i feel like an idiot!...Thanks heaps...this has scared the crap outa me.....

 

[BuddingPharmacist]

wow thanks for this....Im on 115mg methadone a day and never really worried that taking a valium or 4 would be a big problem...I used to take lots of vals at a time before i was on MMP and didnt put friggen two and two together...My god i feel like an idiot!...Thanks heaps...this has scared the crap outa me.....

Good. I am glad.

After a few near-death experiences, including the one where my father was able to get me breathing again after using prescribed opiates and Xanax together BARELY before I would have been dead, I re-examined my life a bit and came up with a new philosophy:

I am going to use my experiences and all of my talents, intellect, knowledge, and everything I have to help people in any way at any time anywhere.

If what I wrote in this thread averted disaster for you, the Thread Starter, or anyone else who reads what I wrote, I am a happy man.

Stay safe, as always.

 

[BuddingPharmacist]

Im proly in the minority here but I dont think dude was in any real danger. His posts were coherant and spelled correctly so it wasnt like he was seeing triples or anything plus hes on a done taper and says he often takes xanax. I know xanax and done has a bad rap with lots of deaths but if you have atolerance to both it CAN be a safe combo. my .02

Re-reading this post again still makes me furious, even a day later.

DON'T COMBINE OPIATES WITH BENZOS!

God damn it, A HIGH IS NOT WORTH DEATH!!!

It really really really bothers me when people say things and give advice that can KILL someone.

Holy shit.

Cromsonjunk, dude, you are a smart guy as I know full well from reading your posts. Think about this: People on here put some trust in what you say, because people like you on here, or seem to. You have influence. Now think about what would happen if someone did what you just said here, trusting you, and used a benzo with an opiate because you said "it can be a safe mixture" and DIES because of what you wrote.

Would that be worth it dude?

Hell no.

We all need to be more careful with advice given on these forums. Seriously. This thread is a classic example of that.

I can see no error of logic in this, both from a moral standpoint or a logical one.

Think carefully about advice on such things, guys.

 

[adder]

The general piece of advice here was just that 2.5mg of alprazolam to which the OP isn't tolerant as I understand and 50mg of methadone the OP is tolerant to wasn't a deadly combination IN THIS CASE. I see nothing wrong about the comment either because if you were really overdosing on some benzodiazepine derivative you couldn't really write anything making sense, you would keep forgetting what you've just done. Also, the dose was spared, it wasn't so high that it boosted methadone dangerously.

But then again I agree that one shouldn't combine opioids and benzodiazepines (unless is fucking addicted to both). That's the final conclusion from this thread, I guess.

 

[BuddingPharmacist]

The general piece of advice here was just that 2.5mg of alprazolam to which the OP isn't tolerant as I understand and 50mg of methadone the OP is tolerant to wasn't a deadly combination IN THIS CASE. I see nothing wrong about the comment either because if you were really overdosing on some benzodiazepine derivative you couldn't really write anything making sense, you would keep forgetting what you've just done. Also, the dose was spared, it wasn't so high that it boosted methadone dangerously.

But then again I agree that one shouldn't combine opioids and benzodiazepines (unless is fucking addicted to both). That's the final conclusion from this thread, I guess.

Better to be safe than sorry, is what I am getting at. Methadone peaks differently than most other opiates, and methadone builds up in the system for weeks and weeks, making it horribly risky to combine with benzodiazepines.

What might have been a survivable mix of benzos and methadone one day could end up killing someone four days later because of the methadone buildup.

Methadone is one of the worst, but all other opiates SHOULD NOT be used with benzodiazepines.

I'm so mad because I almost died from this myself because my doctor "thought I should be fine" too, repeating the same exact bullshit lines in this thread like "the doses are fine/low" and "you are ok if you have tolerance" and all this other false-security-prompting-crap.

The fact is this: If I myself almost died from mixing opiates and benzodiazepines, (with a ton of tolerance to both after taking both together and taking them at the same time together for weeks until I randomly ODed), then others can too.

Just because people have tolerance or have used it together without problems in the past DOES NOT mean it can't sneak up and kill them if they do it again.

If I save a life by helping someone realize the danger of combining opiates and benzos, I am a happy guy.

 

[cj]

I never recommended that dude mix methadone and xanax he had already done it I simply gave my opinion that he wasnt gonna die. I do try and give conservative advice on here as like you said people are putting alot of faith in this forum and its members and frankly sometimes its faith that is misplaced. I dont really like threads like this because they can be taken out of context by people who are not involved in them I would hate for someone without a tolerance to read what I said and think its ok to mix 50mg of done with 2.5mg of xanax. but on the other hand people are going to dangerous things and sometimes harm reduction just means telling them how to do something dangerous as safely as possible. Its a tough line to walk I try my best sometimes I may be wrong but thats why im not the only poster so its good that you gave your opinoin now its up to the readers to decide what they think is safe.

 

[Miss Kirsty]

I think people "Generalise" way too much. We are all different..Whats good for the goose may not be good for the gander. Theres not much commonsense out there these days, and many people dont/wont take responsibility for their own actions anymore...Ive learned from this thread. I have been playing with benzos for years while never forming a tolerance, Id take around 150mg and go out for a burbon...I wouldnt black out or fuck up...id just cruise for the arvo...Now im on 115mg methadon daily and usually have around 4 to 5 5mg vals when i play...but for some fucked up reason ive not worried about this????....My partner once told me my breathing is irregular at night...and he thinks i sometimes stop for a while...(this is with methadone alone)...Soo if ive already got a screwed respitory then this is not for me.....OPIOIDS+BENZOs...Thank you OP...And everyone else...lesson learned BuddingPharmasist....Ta for your info mate...

 

[DoctorChemX]

I Think BuddingPharmacist is the hero of this thread, he needs a gold
medal, and judging by all the people posting who where in my situation
who have learned there lesson, it might be a good idea to pin this thread,
mods, if you don't mind, as i think it's important to get the msg out there.

- Peace Brothers & Sisters -

 

[adder]

To make it clear, I don't advocate using opioids and benzodiazepines together. Both are depressants and depressants shouldn't be mixed, this is not a joke written in leaflets, there's a warning about benzodiazepines and opioids interaction in every opioid medication leaflet and in every benzodiazepine medication leaflet.

But then again back on the thread, this wasn't a lethal combination. 2.5mg of alprazolam is a dose that is often taken by people throughout one day for anxiety. And concerning methadone - the OP has a tolerance to it (otherwise 50mg would be a lot...). One last thing is interaction between them. Well, sure there's an interaction but at such a low dose of alprazolam there was really no risk of overdosing fatally. I have only related to this situation of course.

I guess it's quite clear for everyone that opioids and benzodiazepines together boost each other's action. You don't have to be sharp-witted to know with medications "minus" and "minus" isn't "plus" but two "minuses".

it might be a good idea to pin this thread,
mods, if you don't mind, as i think it's important to get the msg out there.

I guess that's a bad idea. General threads about the whole class of substances are better where you've got FAQs and information for users who don't really like chemistry, pharmacology etc. stuff in one place. IIRC, there's a place where you can find such FAQ threads.