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MDPV Megathread 5: Waiting for Jesus to show up

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also i feel unusually empathetic on this drug. like i never have the desire to think bad of anyone or insult them, and make sure they feel comfortable around me.
 
Treacle said:
From the first page on Google, when you search (Wikipedia):

Methylenedioxypyrovalerone (MDPV) is a psychoactive drug with stimulant properties which acts as a norepinephrine-dopamine reuptake inhibitor (NDRI).

I thought this was common knowledge?
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Fwiw, I'm just reporting my own personal experience re: how much norepinephrine seems to be affected. Also fwiw, a drug could affect dopamine 95% and norepinephrine 5% and be classified an NDRI.

I suspect it affects mainly dopamine in lower doses tho, and 'crosses over' to norepinephrine in higher doses, which would be common and explain the tweakiness people feel when dosing high. There have been a few times I felt overheated after vaping (like can happen with cocaine), yet after taking my temp it was only 99.1 or whatever.
 
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also i feel unusually empathetic on this drug. like i never have the desire to think bad of anyone or insult them, and make sure they feel comfortable around me.
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Tis a very gentle, peaceful and peace-promoting drug, I'd say. Aside from the possibility of rampant paranoia that gets a bit much after several days without sleep and round the clock dosing, perhaps.

I find that any heart-racing goes away completely by the 48 hour mark. Although I must admit I never really get too much of that unless I go in all guns blazing maybe - too much too soon can be fairly overwhelming. It passes though. I also find taking one-off large doses - big bong rips - is way less stimulating than going for teeny tiny tooty pops. Not saying that would be a wise move for all or that it would work out that way for others but is the way it goes for me.
 
I find I become extremely oversensitive to sound on a peev run. Right from the first dose through till the last. Is probably the only drug I actively avoid music and actively seek silence whilst dosed. I also find textual communication very difficult to manage. Mainly due to the extreme blurred vision (in the first 48 hours or so) and extreme ease of lengthy distraction and focus-shifting that occurs from beginning to end of a session. Again, these are effects I particularly enjoy with peev.

Aside from the shitty vision thing. Only started getting that fairly recently - never used to happen whether it be white or whether it be tan "back in the day". Something seemed to shift in the effects of peev around a year or so back. I felt it did anyway. The vision thing suddenly started to crop up every time when it never had previously. I also felt it became more tweaktastic and sketchmongering. Quite possibly all just peev-delusions but definitely did seem to be some sorta change around that time for me.
 
I had a perverse fondness for desoxy. Devil's own dandruff for sure but strangely alluring. Nothing you read about it quite prepares you for just how insanely long the half-life is. First time I used it it took three days for me to come down from the last dose I dosed. Three. Whole. Days. I also completely lost four days one time - was convinced I'd only been dosing a week until Mrs Shambles informed me it was nearer two. Mad stuff is desoxy. Peev on steroids and mogadon all at the same time.
 
Ya - vaping it does turn what is already an obsessive-compulsive drug into an all-consuming fiendfest of epic proportions. Folks who've spent time with me during a run can attest to the fact that the tooter simply does not leave my mouth for several days straight. And the flicking of lighters does even my head in it's so endlessly constant =D

I can talk the arse end off a donkey even with the permanent tinny-toob fixture glued to me lip in face-to-face communications (even on MSN sometimes) but usually takes at least an hour or two to squeeze out a BL post. Have great fun trying though - gotta <3 all that uberaliterationism =D

I also get the "Ghost Radio" thing (as I call it) on peev. Generally towards the end of a run. Thought that was just me for ages but have seen it mentioned several times now and is unique to peev, as far as I can tell.
 
Shambles said:
I find I become extremely oversensitive to sound on a peev run. Right from the first dose through till the last. Is probably the only drug I actively avoid music and actively seek silence whilst dosed. I also find textual communication very difficult to manage. Mainly due to the extreme blurred vision (in the first 48 hours or so) and extreme ease of lengthy distraction and focus-shifting that occurs from beginning to end of a session. Again, these are effects I particularly enjoy with peev.
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The focus-shifting I only get when tweaked into the stratosphere, but I suppose that would be common when vaping is one's primary ROA ;). At some point it's impossible even to concentrate on porn enough to get it up without mentally wandering off, coming back to it, wandering off, coming back, etc. Uggh, vaping can get nasty for me and I don't enjoy it the way hardcore vapers do... I end up feeling like a twitchy nut-job with impending Parkinson's. It's just too damn much at a certain point (yet the tendency to keep on with it is always there anyway).
 
^ I don't really get twitchy on peev - quite the opposite really - but I'm fairly sure you are correct that wildly jagging focus-shifting is likely more the chaser's friendly foe.

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who the hell keeps on deleting posts
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Almost certainly nobody I should imagine. BL is in the midst of a massive bout of spazzing out recently. Suspect the servers are on a peevee binge ;)
 
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wait, i'm stupid. how do you know most people are lying?
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Not saying most people are lying... that's too literal an interpretation.

Rather, I think people sort of "forget" loss-of-control issues when the bag runs out and decide to buy it again based on thoughts like 'this time I'll control it because of A, B, C, no problem".

In other words, you could either call it a matter of denial, or just being in such a different state when flooded with dopamine that the compulsion can't be properly grasped when one has been off the merry go round for a bit. You just don't "feel it" unless it's happening, right now... it doesn't seem real.
 
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wait, i'm stupid. how do you know most people are lying?
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he's right though, the fiendishness of it erodes willpower, it's not lying if you believe it when you say it but I know very few people who can have a vape or two and leave it at that. look at the amount of people who swore they'd be fine with phenazepam as well for example, almost everyone seems to have a carcrash story with that.
 
Once you pop you definitely won't stop. Although I don't think I ever tried to convince myself or anyone else that I had any chance (or even any desire) to not see each gramme through till the bitter end. May have deluded myself about plenty other stuff but willpower > fiending was not really one of 'em.

I'd imagine phenaz is likely far worse for that if only cos you don't even realise you're cunted on a benzo binge usually. Or even remember when you last dosed. Or anything else. Never tried phenaz and doesn't sound interesting enough to chance it anyway really.
 
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he's right though, the fiendishness of it erodes willpower, it's not lying if you believe it when you say it but I know very few people who can have a vape or two and leave it at that. look at the amount of people who swore they'd be fine with phenazepam as well for example, almost everyone seems to have a carcrash story with that.
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I only ever bought it once, back when, & don't remember any serious problems... but just bought it once. Unless I don't remember any serious problems cuz I don't remember anything (LOL).

Got some peevee coming in Monday and feel ready for a bit of fun again after resting up & eating well the past week. Still gotta get this house cleaned a bit (it's getting horrible), do some laundry, pay bills, stock up on some food etc. in preps for a bit of peevee fun.

Also got an order of kratom coming in, which has helped a lot in the past in terms of stopping the peevee when I get tired of it... helpful as a finisher, IMO, as it seems to sort of maintain dopamine levels while adding an opiate buzz into the mix and warming everything up nicely. Simply the best for putting a finish on a night of coke use, but works well for MDPV too IMO.
 
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LOL yea phenazepam was not a wise purchase of mine, i boutgh it in solution but never again,the anterograde amnesia is awful,wayy worse when i was silly with blues and ate like 25 in 2 days,2 weeks of mongtime still doesnt compare to phen.
 
First time I ever bought vallies I managed to munch several hundred over the course of a week. Didn't really know what they were at the time. Youthful high jinx and foolishness. I have one memory of about 30 seconds from somewhere in the middle of the week (I think). Memory is of staring transfixed at some old lady's blue rinse hair as she walked up the street in front of me. That is all.

Peevee binge > benzo binge every time.
 
Alternate idea...

Hit the grocery store today, & they're pushing girl scout cookies. What say, should I hand over the peevee and go for some of those instead? =D
 
The house is now semi-clean and stocked... ugg, what a f*cking job, I totally let the place go since at least December. Clothes in the washer, floors still need swept, bathrooms cleaned, dishes done, counters wiped/dusted, etc. If only PV was motivational for me, but unfortunately cannot trust it for that quality. More cleaning tomorrow.
 
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