My MDPV arrived today. I've done some research (read about 20 pages of the last megathread), tried sniffing and smoking in a pipe, got through ~25mg so far. It's the white, kinda clumpy stuff.
Got a few questions-
1) Is the brown stuff currently being sold in England? What about the tan? I understand that the brown is best, then tan, then white is least popular - is this still true?
2) Are we certain yet what the difference is between them? I've read that the brown batches could contain an impurity (Pyrrolidine), or the white batches might be just pyrovalerone, rather than the md-version, or a different substance altogether, or heavily cut. Are there any other theories? Has any consensus been reached yet?
3) For people who have tried injecting this (Shambles?) how rough/gentle on the veins is the substance? I'm guessing it would be much less damaging than coke. Does it burn on the way in? Any vein damage noticed? What does it compare to? Would the white be worth bothering with, or just the tan?
4) Any advice on the best way to smoke it? Would it be worth freebasing with bicarb?
Thanks for your help. Maybe this post will help consolidate some knowledge and put it on the first page for all to see.
Better late than never...
1) From what I recall, the brown-but-not-tan batches seemed to be all but identical to the common or garden white stuff that's most widely available aside from a coupla piss weak grams here and there that were probably heavily cut. Seemed to me it was just the normal white stuff with a brownish colouring/cut to try to please/tease the tan fans.
The original tan hasn't been commercially available for a long time - seems only the earliest batches had the legenday wow factor and may never be seen again. Small amounts pop up very rarely - probably when someone who stocked up at the time but never enjoyed it, chucked it in a drawer and forgot about it sees threads like this.
As a side note, the white variety I think of as the super-speedy one also seems long gone. The clumpy, white, floury stuff that's around now is not the same white powder at all - way less potent and like valium compared to the non-clumpy, fine brilliant white, super-speedy stuff. I don't think I ever came across the speedy white version from any European vendors. That version made even the original tan stuff seem a bit tame as far as speediness goes but had precious little of the tan magic either.
The clumpy white version is the one you'd be happy to take home to meet the parents.
2) No idea what the difference was other than being a massive one. Not only a lot more potent but far more euphoric too. Also had that legendary perv factor which none of the others come close to, in my opinion. Have also heard the pyrrolidine taint theory and that may well be the case. If so then it might even be worth the cancer and I'm sure some shady lab would be willing to add toxic contaminants given the tan hype. We should send a petition to the Chinese embassy
3) Doesn't hurt, no vein damage noticed, feels kinda like a really big shot of coke/crack but lasts a lot longer and is way stronger than any coke I've ever shot - 3mg was as far as I ever pushed it IV and that was just ridiculously strong. And ridiculously lush
I've never found the other varieties that great IV myself - speedy white is just too speedy and jittery, clumpy white feels less potent than smoking it and often sends me to sleep funnily enough. Have heard others have more success but not me. I was fortunate enough to receive a sample of original tan a few months back after having all but given up on it and it was just as mindblowingly strong as ever - really does feel like the three "versions" are three different, but related, drugs. Does seem very odd indeed that the others don't do it for me cos I likes me peevee and I likes me pins but until somebody empties their stash box and a few more grams of tan crop up I'm not sure I'll be bothering again.
4) Chased on tinfoil. Or in a pipe/bong on a bed of ash if you're really going for it - not for the feint hearted though. I found freebasing it completely pointless - maybe a tiny bit more potent but such a tiny bit more potent it's just not worth the hassle for me. Tastes fuckin' foul too. Again though, some swear by it so YMMV.
btw @Shambles: Is there some hidden pun in the new thread's title? Or is this just about my smartassilicious articulation of the fact that we
like being pveed up on pvee (as opposed to taking it involuntarily due to addiction)?
Much as I'd love to, I can't take credit for the thread title cos it wasn't me that started it (even though the first post is mine) and it was your phrase anyway. Or maybe I started it in one my lil fuzzyfoggy peevee fugues and forgot about it in which case I'm quite happy to take the credit :D
Can the brain's language areas burn out from hours upon hours of chatting on MDPV?
Fuck yes. Takes me several days to get the hang of talking/typing after a binge - hence occasional long periods of silent lurking. This post is purely due to tramadol being pretty effective at easing the post-peev mong. It was also strangely exhausting to type (cos smoking peevee round the clock for a month straight can surely not be a factor in excess tiredness) so an afternoon nap may be in order. Plus I can't order more peevee in my sleep which would probably be for the best - even egosyntonic drugpigs need to go on a bit of a drug diet occasionally. Somewhat grudgingly admittedly...