illusion25 said:
The only side effect (NEGATIVE) i seemed to notice was a strong belief in the subjective worls and slowly ignorging the presence of the objective.
I would use alot of keatime for weeks at a time and you do have trips where everything you expierence is a creation and manifestation of your self.
I always wonder why it is called an OBE when really you turn off OUTside sensory input and go into your thalmus and brain stem. You are in a type of waking dream. You can metaprogram and get/unlock deeply imbedded secrtes inside your cells/dna on ketamine/
I had had the sence of meeting"the man" the creator, which i believe is the universre, my expierence being myself/ I get to talk to another part of myslef and communicate. Some people see this as another entity or being but in a k hole you total expierence in not reall anything but you are just a being of thought existing in what first comes to mind....coming back to the danger of believeng we cintrol make eveything( not really true)
I would only find a impulse to re use because i would get to a place that was my world and my creation. It is such a powerful edpierence. i always meet entities or travel thru galaxies and dimensions that i feel like i was ALMOST there, somewher, so i would do K again to gp farther.
I would get a transmissions or a secret so prfound you cannot believe you expierence it, but you soon loose memory of most or all of whaT happened.
THE DANGER OF K-
/percieve you will talk to God or meet some being and recievesomething so great that you feel a need a urge or even obligation to go there again or find that gain to finish off what was happeneing.
I felt like i was on to something great or bigso i would use more and more. I would go further and further out there because i got very good with it, but not being able to obtain and APPLY information from K makes it just a hair from perfecion.
It has taought me thru expierence that the universe is infinite and nothing.
\But nothing is something it is nothing.
paradx,,na
Lol, telling the struction and spelling of your post you must have been K'd out writing it :D
+1. That's exactly how my trips have playied out through my ketamine use. I feel I have gained allot from it, but only if I quit much much sooner the positives would have highly outweighted the negatives.
I usually only have these kind of trips in a very dark room, laying down, with music of my choice on. This is how I've done a majority of my ketamine use. Or a few times on the beach at night...that was amazing. I notice with pot I can't usually abtain these kind of trips, more like flying through tunnels and great visuals but no profound experiances.
silentscience said:
around 1-2 grams (wasnt wieghing it out). I'm not kidding either. It was bad.
insufflated.
How did you OD? ...what do you consider over dosing as?
A few weeks ago I started using K for the first time in awhile. I went through about 600mg (excluding my last two doses) of K in the last 9 months. Most of that within the last day and a half of my use. One year ago I was using massive amounts of K via IM for about a year. In that year I went through 1-1.5#s, 2/3rds of that being in the last 4 months. Anyways, the last time I used I did 160mg (btw I'm 140#s) via IM after snorting about 60-80mg about 15mins earlyier. I blacked out through most of it, apprently walking through the house grasped to the wall and white as a ghost. 15-40mins into the IM dose I had a blood pressure of 165/110. It stayied right around that for 15 mins and slowly tapered off. I wasn't paniced or scared. I'm not a doctor but my friend that took my blood pressure is a nurse and said I could have died from this. I take 450mg of welbutrin daily which supposedly raises blood pressure. I'm in my low 20s and healthy. Oh also, this ketamine is from a new source and MUCH more potent than anything from veternarians in the US or Mexico.
I find Ketamine extreamly addicting. I've never struggled so much with an addiction and I'm not sure why. The whole "always feeling on the verge of breaking through" has contributed to it but I don't beleive it's a major factor. I used cocain and meth daily for 7 months, the last 3 months I used herion 2 days a week progressivly getting worst to 3-4days a week untill I stopped. This use is usually dosing hourly or so. Other than some withdraws, sleeping problems, and eating habbits screwed up I really did not have much of a problem quiting. Several months later I never craved them. After about a year I started craving opiates again but nothing major.
Ketamine on the other hand has had me by the balls and still does. Once I start I continue to do too much because I'm not always aware that I just redosed or don't realize I've had enough. Other times I'm totally aware, but for whatever reason can't stop myself from using even if I know I'll regret it.
On another note, I have personally seen several people IMing up to 650mg at a time and living. I've seen three people go through 112grams via IM in less than a week as well. They have noticable negative effects 6-8 months later but are functional. More so, in this time none of them ever OD'd which to me really shows how safe it is from ODing.
I know around 25 people who had bad ketamine addictions and at least 5 of which did insane amounts. Almost a year later most of those people have little to no side effects. All of the heavyier users had some sort of dillusion. My close friends dillusion being that our city was going to be bombed and we all had to get out of it. He moved to a smaller city on the other side of a mountain claiming he'd be safe from radiation. He would break down in tears trying to talk us into coming with him, affraid we would die. He was convinced of a certain month it would happen, with no reason or evidence as to why that month, just that "he knew". A little over a year later and his dillusion is gone and he moved back to the city. He studders allot but I can't remember if he did that before ketamine use.
Other than that most of them crave ketamine strongly and it's been a year since any kind of use above say 200mg in a night and weekly at most. Most of them have suffered from depression since as well. Myself, I had depression before hand but afterwards It was so unbearable I couldn't function and was very sucidal. I turned on all my loved ones and was a total dick to everyone during my use. I take welbutrin now which 95% of the time makes my mood how it should be...other 5% of the time I get horribly depressed for no apparent reason but can push through it knowing it'll go away even though it seams endless.
/rant. Sorry for the long post.
. Indeed, I was stunned by it too, but the fact that other NMDA-antagonists (Amantadine and analogues) are specifically anti-viral makes it more believable...
