.....and now all of a sudden its ok to talk about it, we've never been able to or be ok to talk about it - we don't know what to say or how to say it it, what words to use, how to express our selves ....its a brand new conversation that makes every bloody one feel unconformable.
The language of paedophilia? What is it...Im well creeped out and have my own tales to tell as i'm sure lots of little girls do
this is shit
I think what's shit about Saville is that we (I, anyway) don't know any of the people involved, except for through their celebrity, so what the fuck are we supposed to do about it? It's not really "our problem", because we were never in a situation to stop it happening.
If I knew an adult who was getting off with a 13 year old, I'd tell them to get a fucking grip.
Charlie, if you knew adults shagging 13 year olds, you should have had a word. It's in the past now, though, so there's no point anyone getting upset about it.
What exactly is the discussion? Do we condone adult men having sex with girls in their early teens? I don't. I think, as a society, we've decided that, some time ago. Saville was on the wrong side of that judgement. Most people don't think it's OK, and there are good reasons for thinking it's not OK, amongst them being it can fuck up a youngster's life if they have a kid by a stranger when they're 13. [edit: that's just one reason, there are many others, and they all trounce any positive value to be had in an individual case of sexual relations between people of inappropriate ages].
I'm not one for digging up old dirt though, don't see the point. If the ladies in question have issues caused by their experience, then they deserve whatever support they need. Beyond that, what exactly are we talking about?
EDIT and on your "blanket generalisation" point, Charlie, I see where you're coming from, but as a society we have to make generalisations in areas where the potential harm is great. We have to generalise that there is a cut off, because we don't have the time to examine every case in sufficient detail before the man get's his cock out. It would probably ruin the atmosphere anyway.
And excuse me if I'm being gender-biased, modify my words appropriately to suit whatever combo might be relevant, use your skill and judgement.